Harry Kane

[chas vs dave]

To be fair to him, someone asked him the other day about this, and he went off on one a bit, basically saying he'd been made to look a mug by passing on certain info and that he was pissed off with the club.

Perhaps he should caveat his info, it is 2nd hand info anyway.

That's on him, not the club.

 

[mil1lion]

Yep it's gonna be a combo of Maddison, Richy and Son

Should be Emerson the new goat

 

[KingNick]

Why would you tear up a contract until the Transfer window shuts? You're going to have to pay up the value of it, sure you would try and sell first?

Of course! Which is why the info was rubbish and yet people seemed to believe it!

(although you do screw a player if you terminate a contract after the close of the window as the player would not be a free agent in those circumstances and unable to sign elsewhere until the next window. You have to terminate within the window to allow them that freedom)

 

[McFlash]

Spend has increased a hell of a lot since the old WHL. That is a objective fact.

Spending more doesn't always equal more success.

We got in a new manager to rebuild, to assess the squad, to coach, to move us in a more exciting direction. None of that has changed. Nobody is "pissing on your dreams".

My point through all of this has been more about how, where and when we spend, as opposed to how much.

You've just picked one post as a stand-alone statement when if taken in context with everything else I've been saying, there's a little more depth to it.

 

[ernest_lowrider]

this is literally us

 

[Hazelton]

Unfortunately, I don't think you can simultaneously 'get a player gone' and 'milk them for everything'.

If Levy drags it out, it drags our incomings out too.

Make Ange's job tougher.

I think he's gone today or this week.

 

[ReadieSpur]

If Kane is to go, then so it shall be.

What i don't really understand is the thought behind signing a young prospect. If we do that, surely we are inadvertently saying that Scarlett and Donley aren't/wont be good enough? Wouldn't it make sense to sign an established older player, whilst Scarlett and Donley continue to develop?

 

[yankspurs]

How’s his ITK about lots of contracts being “torn up” very shortly after the end of the season going?

Matt Law said the same thing by the way.

 

[Trent Crimm]

I’m truly amazed that Harry isn't staying for one more year, to get another 25-30 goals and a bit closer to shearers record then leaving on a free, to whatever club he wants and with a big signing on fee.

if I were his agent, I’d be advising exactly this.

Madrid should be his next club, a true giant and one that is likely to win the CL.

To me, it is a really bizarre move.

That way he can come back in a few years and beat the record.

You can’t spend “shearers record”.

you can spend 600k large a week tho living in a Bavarian castle and having peasants flown in to shoot at

 

[fletch82]

"As part of the deal that takes Harry to Germany, we're delighted to announce a special relationship with Bayern Munich."

As part of the deal to take harry to Germany we are delighted to announce 3 more Beyonce concerts

 

[mil1lion]

If Kane is to go, then so it shall be.

What i don't really understand is the thought behind signing a young prospect. If we do that, surely we are inadvertently saying that Scarlett and Donley aren't/wont be good enough? Wouldn't it make sense to sign an established older player, whilst Scarlett and Donley continue to develop?

I think we need someone that's just a bit further developed. Ideally early 20s with more senior experience. Kane broke out at around 21/22 so need to be patient with Scarlett.

 

[wrd]

Then sell him! I have no problem with that if it's what Ange wants. Fact is though Ange wanted a CB in prior to the tour. Signing one shouldn't have been dependant on what happens to Kane regardless of the cost of said CB.

Honestly people need to ask themselves how many times they've heard the same thing's

- The reason we weren't investing was to put everything into the stadium, when that comes we'll be investing.
- Since the stadium has opened how many time's have we heard that we're ready to back a manager
- That outgoings won't impact incomings, only then for business to slow down and it comes down to getting players out the door
- We're ready to be cut players short and have the shake up the club needs and get consistent underperformers out the door, only for that not to happen
- That a player in a specific position is wanted before a certain date in pre-season, only for it not to happen
- That a manager feels we need a CB but we can't find the right one. Jose, Conte, Ange
- That a manager is more flexible with choice given us options, before we hear the problem was we couldn't get the specific player the manager wanted
- That a manager has become miserable and unresponsive to the cause and gone into self protection mode.

How many times is it going to take before people admit to themselves that they can't accept what's right in front of them, how many different managers, how many different styles, before the stadium, after the stadium, before covid, during covid, after covid. External factors that seemingly don't seem to impact other football teams.

How can a stadium be built with promises of revenue streams the likes of which no other club can compete with, not move the needle for this club. How many times do Arsenal and Liverpool need to outspent, outdo us before we people accept the truth. How many times do we need the same pattern to hit us in the face with different variables both for us and the patterns of other clubs, which we're told aren't sustainable before people stop the illusion of thinking the board care about anything other themselves. confront the pain and join the rest of us in the 500 stages of spurs grief.

I think I'm trying to accept it myself

 

[chas vs dave]

How many times do Arsenal and Liverpool need to outspent, outdo us before we people accept the truth.

In the last 5 years we have outspent liverpool in terms of net spend.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

IMO all we’ve really done is regressed 10 years to the Bale summer and been deceived into being excited about it.

Which academy generational talent are we going to get to enjoy yet squander and which inspirational, Spurs-minded manager are we going to fall in love with but fail to back this time?

Add 2x CB's and a RW who can cover as a ST and our squad will be far stronger than the one when we sold Bale.

We also have a Manager who looks to be a fantastic fit playing really exciting football.

I really don't see it as doom and gloom as some are making out and that's not just a happy clappy positive take I just genuinely don't think selling Kane will be the end of the world... IF when we do we sign 2x top CB's and a versatile attacking goalscoring threat ideally RW/ST.

Lets see how it all shakes out but I actually see it as the start of a very exciting new chapter where we won't finally be relying on just 1-2 players and we will have an overall style of play and multiple creative different goal threats. Scoring goals imo will be the least of our worries next season, it will all depend on how solid we can make the defence with minimum 2x upgrade signings in that area.

 

[wrd]

In the last 5 years we have outspent liverpool in terms of net spend.

Mate have you seen Shutter Island?

We're at the point now where we're leonardo di caprio's character, being navigated around finding the truth and if we don't accept it and go back to rocking side to side saying, daniel's gonna give us what we all hope, then the doctors are gonna corkscrew our frontal cortex

Liverpool have outspent us over 5 years, cool, probably to do with spending so well to win absolutely everything during those 5 years. If you wanna focus on netspend of a scope that suits your angle, you go for it mate.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Honestly people need to ask themselves how many times they've heard the same thing's

- The reason we weren't investing was to put everything into the stadium, when that comes we'll be investing.
- Since the stadium has opened how many time's have we heard that we're ready to back a manager
- That outgoings won't impact incomings, only then for business to slow down and it comes down to getting players out the door
- We're ready to be cut players short and have the shake up the club needs and get consistent underperformers out the door, only for that not to happen
- That a player in a specific position is wanted before a certain date in pre-season, only for it not to happen
- That a manager feels we need a CB but we can't find the right one. Jose, Conte, Ange
- That a manager is more flexible with choice given us options, before we hear the problem was we couldn't get the specific player the manager wanted
- That a manager has become miserable and unresponsive to the cause and gone into self protection mode.

How many times is it going to take before people admit to themselves that they can't accept what's right in front of them, how many different managers, how many different styles, before the stadium, after the stadium, before covid, during covid, after covid. External factors that seemingly don't seem to impact other football teams.

How can a stadium be built with promises of revenue streams the likes of which no other club can compete with, not move the needle for this club. How many times do Arsenal and Liverpool need to outspent, outdo us before we people accept the truth. How many times do we need the same pattern to hit us in the face with different variables both for us and the patterns of other clubs, which we're told aren't sustainable before people stop the illusion of thinking the board care about anything other themselves. confront the pain and join the rest of us in the 500 stages of spurs grief.

I think I'm trying to accept it myself

I think its best to accept this reality right now and enjoy the good football that will be played and if we can get 2-3 top signings in with the Kane and other money, have a really good go at the cups and aim to get back into Europa League as minimum.

Tbh Man.City are winning virtually every trophy most seasons at the moment so yes until ENIC leave and we get investors on the level of Man.City or Newcastle I think its basically impossible for us to compete for the league but not too much we can do about it so like with the Kane situation there are some positives right now that we can focus on for now.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

In the last 5 years we have outspent liverpool in terms of net spend.

I suppose the Kane sale and this summers overall net spend will be a good barometer to show everyone if the board are truly ambitious or not *spoiler alert* it won't be incredible reading just like the £150mil drawdown suddenly becoming £100mil...

Lets see how it all plays out though before all losing our minds (not you).

I think I read we have the 5th highest net spend in the last 3 years and given there was a pandemic and events have only just started kicking in then that is probably just about right.

 

[Indacupfortottenham]

Beginning to wonder if not signing centre backs early in window was the plan all along, as they know they are going to have to spend big to keep fans happy when Kane is sold.

 

[neogenisis]

You can’t spend “shearers record”.

you can spend 600k large a week tho living in a Bavarian castle and having Arsenal fans flown in to shoot at

Fixed.

 

[wrd]

I think its best to accept this reality right now and enjoy the good football that will be played and if we can get 2-3 top signings in with the Kane and other money, have a really good go at the cups and aim to get back into Europa League as minimum.

Tbh Man.City are winning virtually every trophy most seasons at the moment so yes until ENIC leave and we get investors on the level of Man.City or Newcastle I think its basically impossible for us to compete for the league but not too much we can do about it so like with the Kane situation there are some positives right now that we can focus on for now.

Yeah this is exactly it, accepting the reality of the situation, we can still enjoy Ange trying to overcome the odds and hopefully save ourselves some frustration but we shouldn't be going round in circles pretending the situation is normal with the board, It's ludicrous. It goes back to what you said a few months ago, hard to let go of the club and so it's healthiest to continue to love it but accept these factors.

I'm hoping though if I point out the pattern that if it happens again that people will go, ah fuck there it is, rather than accept it now. I'd love to be wrong but patterns are patterns.