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mattdefoe

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Charlie Kane is (understandably) a Harry Kane fan more so than a Spurs fan. It’s very obvious with his posts on social media , the same with England he’s of course always going to have his brothers back , it’s his family and he’s the agent .

If he’s been letting the leaks slip then it’s a bit distasteful and quite a few fans now feel different about Kane and the way this is being conducted given Sonny is sticking through with us .

Kane owes the club IMO 200k a week on a long term deal. He’s been unfit or injured for most major semi finals or finals and been sub par in them. The champions league final he wasn’t anywhere near fit but told himself he was , fa cup semi final v man utd unfit , injured for the league cup semi final second leg v Chelsea , not 100% against man city in the league cup final. Maybe if he puts on a show in these types of games he’d have some silverware ? Steven gerrard and Michael Owen used to show up when it mattered in Liverpool teams not much better than these spurs sides have been.

It’s like the media pressure of not winning anything has got to him, but if he really thinks he can play till 35+ then that’s enough time to win with Spurs , would he really get the love from the man city fans? The same feeling when he scores a goal? It all seems abit plastic like torres to Chelsea , he won the lot but become a shadow of the player . People still talk about his two years at Liverpool and not a lot else .
 

wiggo24

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Without wanting to add to the fire, Charlie Kane is not a Spurs fan. Apparently he's actually an Arsenal fan.

 

ardiles

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God knows how we replace him and his assists we need two top players to do that and without him in the team and no CL football we look a lot less attractive proposition

His replacement will score goals and provide assists (but probably less than Kane). However with Kane out of centre focus, I’m sure the other attacking players will get more involved in the goals & assists. If we use the money we get for Kane, wisely, on top level defenders , then our ‘goals conceded’ column would also improve and would balance the partial (possible) reduction of goals/assists with Kane’s departure. Overall results (and points on board) might actually improve.

If Kane wants to leave and we get good money for him, I hope we use it to upgrade the starting eleven and not just spend on back ups only.
 

SUIYHA

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Today has gone exactly as I expected and said it would early this morning. The club telling all their journos and mouthpieces that he is staying to try and control the narrative until we complete our summer transfer activity. Would have been impossible to sign quality players at good prices if people think we are selling our best and have a load of money burning a hole in the pocket.

Levy will get top dollar for him, he always does, but we made the same noises with Berbatov and Bale and then sold them both on deadline day. Kane might be a Spurs player come the opening day but unless City sign someone like Haaland then this story will not go away until August 31st, and I don't really see how we're planning on funding moves for Gil, Tomiyasu, Romero, Gollini and any others without a major sale.

I'd obviously love to see him stay but we've been here before and he is clearly trying hard to force a move.
 

BC11

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Without wanting to add to the fire, Charlie Kane is not a Spurs fan. Apparently he's actually an Arsenal fan.


The whole family were Arsenal fans growing up. This is 100% true.
That's not to say their affinities haven't changed since.
 

the yid

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I managed to grab a screenshot
 

deanostheyido

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Without wanting to add to the fire, Charlie Kane is not a Spurs fan. Apparently he's actually an Arsenal fan.


Seems this tweet is now unavailable, probably deleted as it got a couple of retweets and it doesn't fit the narrative of them all being lifelong spurs fans...

Not that it really matters. At the end of the day, Harry is a spurs player, and Charlie is a **** regardless of who he supports...
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ardiles

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I can’t bothered to read back…but why are people talking like Kane is off to City for 160m when every reliable journalist as rubbished the story?

That’s just in case the wind direction changes again tomorrow and those same rags turn into lemmings of The Sun again.
 

jbstarr14

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I can't help but be angry at all of this.

In Football players come and go and we accept that. It's happened before but when you see an academy player rise all the way to the position of talisman, national captain, club icon and it ends in what looks like a move to a club like City it's a completely different ball game.

I just don't get it. As fans you dream of playing for your club, captaining your club, leading your club to glory but also as fans surely you'd struggle to switch that off when it comes to decisions on your career.

So why is it, that at the first sign that things aren't quite playing out as we had hoped at Spurs, the first proper downward trajectory in his time at the club, he wants out to move to a club that pick up trophies purely from financial muscle.

His whole family apparently love Spurs too and yet we have his brother, flapping about like a fish out of water, trying to force a move through with petty links to shitty papers, all for a quick buck.

I try to put myself in his shoes and forget the money, what would mean more to me? Seeing my family celebrating me scoring goals for the club we all love, maybe lifting a trophy as skipper for that club or seeing them celebrating me winning something that only matters to me?

They can tell me this is about ambition all they want, it isn't. There is literally no gratification in winning a trophy with a club like City, it's all about the money, the clout and buying little brother a new expensive crappy suit and securing yet more free tickets to the Super Bowl for him to slap all over his social media.

We've gone from having a quiet unassuming lad from Chingford to a bloke who wins the Golden Boot and the first thing he does? Whip off his custom made Nike boots to make sure they are in the photo with the trophy.

Sonny has just signed a new deal, a lad who is a genuine icon across an entire continent, a national team captain, playing in the PL in front of adoring fans, earning good money. Truly living his dream at a club he has grown to love. He talks about the club showing him respect, wanting to be a part of the future, despite the fact that he could up sticks and go anywhere he wanted in the hunt of empty trophies.

Sonny is the sort of player I want at my club, if Harry wants out then his legacy at Spurs will be tarnished for me.
All of the nails on all of the heads. Great post.
 

jbstarr14

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It's the Express who put antagonist caps lock in, to be fair!

"England's football HERO Harry Kane FORCED to WASTE his talent at lackluster Spurs"

"Man City's MEGA offer for Kane REJECTED by pitiful SPURS"
The spelling error is pretty much spot on for The Express too :sneaky:
 

Neon_Knight_

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Yes, everyone seems to be rubbishing it, yet we are suddenly spending over 50m on new players.

Either the mythical stadium rights have finally come through or...

Suddenly after 20 years our owner has decided to go all Abramovic with us....

Or, the much more likely, the Kane deal is done and everyone and his wife have been told he is not leaving until city match our valuation (which they already have done) so we can spend like there's no tomorrow without other clubs taking the piss.

We've all been here before, it's obvious.

Good luck Harry!
Summer transfer windows in recent years don't really support the argument that expensive signings mean we must be selling a key player for big money. I think it's equally likely (or perhaps more likely, based on the evidence available - see below), that we're willing to make a net loss in the transfer market and will sell deadwood / non-essential players to subsidise their replacements.

In Summer 2020 we incured a significant net loss. We only sold one player for a transfer fee (KWP) and he was replaced with a more expensive signing (Doherty). We also signed multiple other players, including one of the most highly-rated LBs in world football for £27m.

In Summer 2019 we invested circa £80m net, and broke our previous transfer record twice in the process (Ndombele & Lo Celso), despite not selling any key players.
Trippier was sold for £20m (i.e. less than we paid for Sessegnon), and our next biggest departure was Janssen for a pitiful £6.5m (£2m less than we paid for Jack Clarke!).

The infamous Summer 2018 was an anomaly and the club's biggest mistake of modern times.

In Summer 2017 we sold Walker and signed a cheaper replacement (Aurier), but actually made a significant net investment in the squad overall, and broke our transfer record (Sanchez).

In Summer 2016 we incurred a net spend, broke our transfer record (Sissoko), and took a significant punt on a back-up striker (Janssen) without selling anyone who wasn't surplus.

In 2015 and 2014 we made net profits, but this was a result in selling a lot of deadwood both summers. We signed key players like Son (almost matched our transfer record at the time) and Toby.

To find a summer window when we invested heavily and then sold a key player (and ended up with a net profit), we have to go all the way back to 2013 when Bale left. A one-off incident from eight years ago surely holds less weight than our transfers activities over the subsequent eight years.
 

yawa

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Think Charlie is just showing he’s completely unqualified to be an agent.

He’s clearly never had to do much in the past as Kane has been with us his entire career and the one time he needs to do something. He goes to a show biz reporter for the sun.

I really can’t see Levy, Hitchen etc backing down unless they want to.
 

Cochraam

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I've adjusted to the idea Kane will leave either this summer or next. I would MUCH prefer he stays until next summer because we're a much better team with him, but also for sentimental reasons. 1) I really think we'll win something this year, even if it's "just" the ECL or League Cup, and I'd love to see Harry lift a trophy with us; yes, I have no reason, particularly, to believe that, but I just do. 2) If Harry had a normal year in the League, then he'd pass Henry in total League goals and pass Aguero for most goals at a single club, and I like the idea of that.

That said, if we actually got an offer of 160 million, I think that would be really tempting, but that assumes it wasn't full of shenanigans like tons of bonuses or overinflated prices for make-weight players or ridiculously long terms. The team needs significant surgery after years of stagnation, and 160 million is a lot of surgery.

However, mostly I just feel pretty disappointed in Harry in how all this has gone down. I guess he feels he needs to kick up a fuss to get a move, but the whole episode has left a bad taste in my mouth. The Neville interview while we were still challenging for Champions League / Europa threw the team under the bus, even if he didn't explicitly ask to leave. Leaking to the Sun is always a bad look, as are the leaked stories about Harry convinced he can't win anything at Spurs. All of it looks bad, IMO, for someone who is supposed to be a leader.

I guess I just think differently to him, but winning something with your boyhood club has real power and meaning to it in a way that winning something at an oil-doped, state-funded super team doesn't, even if they're challenging for "better" trophies. Don't know if any of you follow NBA, but it feels like Durant joining the Warriors - hopping to a team that wins titles without you doesn't make you a 'winner' or improve your legacy, IMO. Not really different to joining PSG, and all the trophies he would potentially win at CIty would be hollow. But still, I'd love to see him play one more season, in front of fans, maybe win some honors or lift a trophy, and then move on next year if his heart's really so set on it.
 

the yid

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I really don't like how this has been handled from the Kane camp I think it's completely disrespectful to the fans and club! Fine you want to leave do the right thing hand in a transfer request do it the right way not all this playing the media
 

BehindEnemyLines

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Waaaooh, waaaaaoooh-yeeeaaaaah - Charly says "Always tell your mum before you go off somewhere".........well, this twat has certainly taken my brain to another dimension!
dum dum de dummdum deaaah! :cautious: :cautious: :shifty:
 
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Think Charlie is just showing he’s completely unqualified to be an agent.

He’s clearly never had to do much in the past as Kane has been with us his entire career and the one time he needs to do something. He goes to a show biz reporter for the sun.

I really can’t see Levy, Hitchen etc backing down unless they want to.

Course he ain't. He's likely to be the disappointing child next to golden Harry, and Harry did him a solid by going for nepotism over intelligent decision making by making him his agent. Of course he wants to be the hero and help Harry to a mega deal, but unfortunately he appears to be more than a little hamfisted at this whole 'agent' lark.

Reality is, the more spurs fan shake fists at him, the more determined he'll be to get it done. Unfortunately, he's damaging Harry's reputation in the process.
 

synththfc

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Hope Charlie's got thick skin and can finish what he started, otherwise he's in for a very rude awakening come september.
 

Amo

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It’s cringe for The Sun.

The story wasn’t even just that a £160m bid had been made (also false).

But that a deal had been agreed and they were all celebrating it.

Front page and debunked within hours.

The stuff of memes.

That'll do HK wonders in the relationship with the press just as it single-handedly sealed the deal with Man City.

Dunno who's more of an idiot, the brother or the brother that follows him.
 
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