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haslemereyid

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Nah, with Kane it is Levy calling the shots. This was confirmed by an ITK recently. That said no doubt Paratici is providing his opinion and expertise.

Paratici controls everything but with Kane, it's the exception.

Then we wont get a pragmatic solution…
 

Romario

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Nah, with Kane it is Levy calling the shots. This was confirmed by an ITK recently. That said no doubt Paratici is providing his opinion and expertise.

Paratici controls everything but with Kane, it's the exception.
Then as I always respectfully say, we will agree to differ.
 

Aphex

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Then we wont get a pragmatic solution…

Maybe, my point was that all incomings and outgoings Paratici will have the final say, but with Kane, Paratici won't just sell him under Levy's nose. It will need Levy's sign off no doubt, Paratici will still be heavily involved though of course.
 

Aphex

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Then as I always respectfully say, we will agree to differ.

There is no way Paratici has the power to sell or keep Kane without Levy's say so. He's only been here a month. It's one thing Paratici controlling all new incomings and selling deadwood, but we are talking about the crown jewels here. Any deal for Kane will directly lead back to Levy, that is why it's the exception.
 

haslemereyid

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Maybe, my point was that all incomings and outgoings Paratici will have the final say, but with Kane, Paratici won't just sell him under Levy's nose. It will need Levy's sign off no doubt, Paratici will still be heavily involved though of course.

Going to be a big clash of styles on this - Fab looking for a negotiated outcome which will maintain goodwill amongst all parties and DL who will put an unrealistic price up and hope some sucker bites..
 

soup

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Daniel’s bound to rinse them on this.

Something like...

140m plus add ons.
10m if City win the league,
10m if Kane is league top scorer,
10m if they win CL
10m per cup win
10m every year they qualify for the CL.

That should get Levy’s attention.

If Harry wants City to buy some trophies for him then that’s what it’ll cost.
 

Aphex

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Going to be a big class of styles on this - Fab looking for a negotiated outcome which will maintain goodwill amongst all parties and DL who will put an unrealistic price up and hope some sucker bites..

Actually I think both Paratici and Levy are on the same page, Kane isn't for sale (bar a gigantic 170+ million bid).
 

Romario

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There is no way Paratici has the power to sell or keep Kane without Levy's say so. He's only been here a month. It's one thing Paratici controlling all new incomings and selling deadwood, but we are talking about the crown jewels here. Any deal for Kane will directly lead back to Levy, that is why it's the exception.
I completely agree that Levy would need to give Paratici total control over all player transfer negotiations. Decisions made may well go back to Levy for 'rubber stamping' but unless he is seen to give Fabio his total support then the guy's credibility as DOF is destroyed. You think the final decision will be Daniel's and I disagree. It will require the Chairman's nod of approval but that's all it will be. Harry Kane's future will ultimately rest with Paratici and Nuno, they are the ones attempting to lift the club into a new era. Levy has accepted this retreat into the shadows is necessary as he was jeopardising the future of the club with his bombastic approach.

As I said, we will agree to disagree but it is my informed opinion that Charlie will be talking to Fabio and no-one else.
 

paulbag

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As I said yesterday I don't see why we should be making city better off by taking their deadwood and giving them our prized asset, as for pep that bald little worm who cried we can't afford this and that but has spent 1 billion on transfer at city go suck off the sheihk for the extra 50-80 mill spurs want or you and txiki can take yourselves off to fuck. Spanish entitled little pri*k.
 

jbstarr14

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Surely if you were Man City, financially it would make more sense to sign Messi for a couple or three years, than Kane for 5. That would create extra fans and in turn they would buy shirts with Messi on the back.
With the amount Grealish is alleged to earn, double that for Messi but offset that with no transfer fee.

Edit: After a quick google, 2Million shirts with Messi on the back were sold in 2020.
Clubs don’t make that much money from shirt sales though - usually around 10%. The money is in selling the license to the manufacturer (Nike, Adidas et al.) That’s what the whole ‘shirt deal’ thing is about.

To use your 2m shirts in 2020 example, that would earn a club, based on £70per shirt, somewhere in the region of £14m.

For context, that’s one shirt sold every 15.7 seconds (give or take) for an entire year, for a return of £14m…
 

Aphex

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I completely agree that Levy would need to give Paratici total control over all player transfer negotiations. Decisions made may well go back to Levy for 'rubber stamping' but unless he is seen to give Fabio his total support then the guy's credibility as DOF is destroyed. You think the final decision will be Daniel's and I disagree. It will require the Chairman's nod of approval but that's all it will be. Harry Kane's future will ultimately rest with Paratici and Nuno, they are the ones attempting to lift the club into a new era. Levy has accepted this retreat into the shadows is necessary as he was jeopardising the future of the club with his bombastic approach.

As I said, we will agree to disagree but it is my informed opinion that Charlie will be talking to Fabio and no-one else.

Surely Levy rubber stamping is the final approval no? If Levy refuses to rubber stamp it, Levy has made the final decision. This is what I'm saying, Paratici does not have to answer to Levy on any incomings or outgoings, except Kane. Paratici has full control of course, otherwise he wouldn't have taken the job. Kane is the exception though, it's really not hard to understand why that would be the case and for sure Paraitic will understand why too.

Paratici I am sure is telling Levy what he thinks the club should do, etc but ultimately it is Levy's call. It's too big a player and deal for it not to.

I think that Kane's relationship with Levy that goes back many many years means that the Kane's WILL NOT be speaking to Paratici who has just arrived here. It doesn't make any rational sense in this case. Maybe the both of them sure, but just Paratici? no chance.
 

truebluespur

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You have to remember, when it comes to forums like blue moon. A lot of those members will be very young. They will have only been watching football for 10-20 years tops. Likely starting off supporting City when they first started winning things. City only have two types of fans, young ones who just wanted to follow the team that won the most and bought all the players. Then the longer term fans who remember where they were before all the oil money arrived.

They’re the definition of a plastic club. No history, no memories before Agueros goal, and all of their main players and manager are basically just mercenaries who would have never have dreamt of playing for them until someone waved a few hundred thousand pounds a week under their noses. There’s no one in the past who would have “one day dreamed to play for City”. Only people born more recently may ‘dream’ of it, because they become aware that if they get a three year contract then at some point they will write their name on most of the winners medals because these awards just default to the club who purchased them.

Occasionally we get lucky, and sometimes football wins. Wigan beating them for the FA Cup, Leicester winning the premier league. However at some point it will always revert back to them because they just put money in until they win. To be honest I’m not entirely sure how you even feel right celebrating winning when you play for, or support them. It’s like entering a soapbox derby with the Ferrari your rich uncle bought you.

Empty soulless stadium, with empty soulless coridoors to house plastic, flakey, fake fans who celebrate their mercenary players who actually have no true feeling for the club or area, and a classless, arrogant manager who has never won anything that wasn’t bought for him.

Unfortunately though, This is football now.

Shit club, shit fans, no history. As plastic as it gets. No where without money.

That's how I feel about football and professional sports in general these days. There's nothing appealing about it. It's all about who has the deepest pockets. The bottom half of the league is more interesting. It's just a reality TV show geared for males, no different to those crappy relationship reality TV shows for females.
 

Mattspurs1982

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i believe they are on 120k and 150k per week respectively, so not outside our wage structure.

where would Bernard fit into our team?

suppose we’d need a Harry replacement so I’d put Silva one side of said replacement with Son the other side
 
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