Harry Kane

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Well spotted with the co writers including editors. I'm actually surprised more people aren't reacting to this as I just can't see his wife going over to scope it out unless it's a real possibility that it could happen.

Well, I think a lot of people are simply in denial. I've read too many comments from people who are "certain" he would never go to Bayern under any circumstances.

It ignores reality and the evidence in front of their noses.

Kane is very obviously open to such a move - now its up to Spurs and Bayern to see if there is a deal that makes sense to both parties.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

Absolutely agree. The way Bayern and their media are dealing with this is really embarassing. If I was Levy I would just be adding more to the value of Kane, they cokme in with 100m, we say its 150, they come in with 150, we say it's 200.

Bayern are not doing anything that hasn't been done before with deals of this magnitude. The club should focus on controlling what it can as we can't afford to let this charade continue given it compromises our preparation for the new season. I am hoping an internal deadline has been set for this to be resolved one way or the other well before the season starts.

 

[wallentino]

I find it very difficult to understand that so many here think that the current situation with Harry Kane is Levy's fault. When Harry wanted to go to City he had a decent new contract with a number of years left on it while Levy thought he was irreplaceable to the club. I find it very difficult to see that it would be a betrayal not to sell him because he himself wanted toleave in that situation. That there would even be a need for a gentlemen's agreement in that situation I think is laughable. The problem in today's football is that players and above all their agents do not honor the contracts they have negotiated and signed themselves.
My opinion in the situation we are in now that the best thing is to collect the maximum we can get for Kane and build the new team around the players who are committed to the new era with Ange's philosophy. We have had far too many squad players who have not been committed since Poch.

 

[Nayim60yards]

Surely Bayern just waiting to sell Mane then they up their bid significantly and job done we all move on.

Far too much smoke for their to not be a fire here.

My money is on Kane going.

Thanks for the pictorial guide to smoke, fire and money. I was always getting those three mixed up!

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I find it very difficult to understand that so many here think that the current situation with Harry Kane is Levy's fault.

I think the current Kane situation dates back the end of the Poch era.

At that point we needed investment into the club to build around Kane specifically. We needed a "painful" rebuild, and instead Levy was convinced we needed a new manager to get more from the existing players.

When we look back on the Kane era, Levy will be the scapegoat for not building a trophy winning team around England's greatest striker.

It's not that Levy did not sell to City, or will sell to Bayern, or will let Kane walk for free - its that Levy did not take the proper risks to win with Kane. Only Levy can answer to that.

 

[arunspurs]

Bild now saying that reporter been banned by our club

FC Bayern: Nach Trikot-Gag um Harry Kane –Tottenham verbannt BILD-Reporter

Bei Tottenham liegen die Nerven blank. Die Spurs verbannen den BILD-Reporter nach Trikot-Gag um Harry Kane und Bayern München.

www.bild.de

I didnt see the paywall article details before...
Here it adds some details that heavily pregnant Kane's wife went to Grunwald suburb near Munich for house hunting...

The suburb specified is where most of the Bayern players live btw

 

[sundanceyid10]

I find it very difficult to understand that so many here think that the current situation with Harry Kane is Levy's fault. When Harry wanted to go to City he had a decent new contract with a number of years left on it while Levy thought he was irreplaceable to the club. I find it very difficult to see that it would be a betrayal not to sell him because he himself wanted toleave in that situation. That there would even be a need for a gentlemen's agreement in that situation I think is laughable. The problem in today's football is that players and above all their agents do not honor the contracts they have negotiated and signed themselves.
My opinion in the situation we are in now that the best thing is to collect the maximum we can get for Kane and build the new team around the players who are committed to the new era with Ange's philosophy. We have had far too many squad players who have not been committed since Poch.

Levy has made dreadful mistakes throughout some of the best /prime years of Kane. Finding an elite goalscorer is probably the hardest thing to find. Levy had that and for large periods surrounded him with some awful footballers. Appointed/sacked managers, started various projects, then another, then another. A huge wasted opportunity, massive opportunity to put better players around Kane one of the best strikers of his generation and possibly that this club has ever had.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

Well, I think a lot of people are simply in denial. I've read too many comments from people who are "certain" he would never go to Bayern under any circumstances.

It ignores reality and the evidence in front of their noses.

Kane is very obviously open to such a move - now its up to Spurs and Bayern to see if there is a deal that makes sense to both parties.

Of course he's open to a move. If he wasn't, we wouldn't be in this situation. But so far there's nothing that we know about that contradicts the possibility that BM will fail to make an offer that satisfies Levy, and that HK will play out another year here.

That's not denial, it's just trying to be realistic.

I'm at the point where I have no preferences any more. I just want the squad (hopefully with two or three significant improvements) to be able to get on with their jobs without all this distraction.

 

[Filips]

Because Bayern are acting like bullying pricks and openly talking about another clubs player, constantly?
Fuck them!
Due to their behaviour, I would happily lose him for a free just so they don't get him.

If they pay the fee that we want, which will probably be increasing with each time they open their mouths in the press, they can have him but they won't.

They are trying to unsettle him and us and if there's on thing I hate, it's a dirty bully who's all mouth.

No way in hell that we should let them beat us down to a cheap deal through underhand tactics, especially when the club don't actually want to lose him.

That's just terrible business sense. Let's do something detrimental to us to spite them...
Take the emotion out of it and just go for the best deal you can get. Kane clearly wants to leave

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Thanks for the pictorial guide to smoke, fire and money. I was always getting those three mixed up!

Anytime

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

I think the current Kane situation dates back the end of the Poch era.

At that point we needed investment into the club to build around Kane specifically. We needed a "painful" rebuild, and instead Levy was convinced we needed a new manager to get more from the existing players.

When we look back on the Kane era, Levy will be the scapegoat for not building a trophy winning team around England's greatest striker.

It's not that Levy did not sell to City, or will sell to Bayern, or will let Kane walk for free - its that Levy did not take the proper risks to win with Kane. Only Levy can answer to that.

Even after Jose, Levy wasted time with Nuno then made the same mistake hiring Conte that he did when he hired Jose, all in all a complete waste of time.

I get trying Jose but after that he should’ve gone back to a strong project manager who suits the style of play our club want to see and make signings to suit that, if so we’d be 2 years ahead of where we are now and might have even won something.

Anyway, we are where we are at now so need to make the best decisions moving forwards.

For me optimal outcome:
A. We sign Tabsopa, VDV, Gallagher and keep Kane and we are really strong next season
B. We sell Kane, sign Tabsopa, VDV, Gallagher, a Kane replacement and a top class RW and we are really strong next season.

 

[Real_madyidd]

That's just terrible business sense. Let's do something detrimental to us to spite them...
Take the emotion out of it and just go for the best deal you can get. Kane clearly wants to leave

It's probably the one thing we can say Levy does well, takes emotion out of it. (Sadly including joy)

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Of course he's open to a move. If he wasn't, we wouldn't be in this situation. But so far there's nothing that we know about that contradicts the possibility that BM will fail to make an offer that satisfies Levy, and that HK will play out another year here.

That's not denial, it's just trying to be realistic.

I'm at the point where I have no preferences any more. I just want the squad (hopefully with two or three significant improvements) to be able to get on with their jobs without all this distraction.

Oh I agree - I think Kane being open to a move does not mean a move is 100% going to happen.

But, there are a number of people who have decided that Kane would never accept a move to Bayern, so it does not matter what Bayern offer. (See the "disagree" on my previous post...)

Right now - this is really a decision for Levy and Bayern - What is the minimum that Levy would accept, and what is the maximum that Bayern will offer. If there is not a match - then there will not be a deal. But I expect, that everyone is inching towards a deal - more than Bayern want to pay, and less than Levy wants to accept.

 

[For the love of Spurs]

I think the current Kane situation dates back the end of the Poch era.

At that point we needed investment into the club to build around Kane specifically. We needed a "painful" rebuild, and instead Levy was convinced we needed a new manager to get more from the existing players.

When we look back on the Kane era, Levy will be the scapegoat for not building a trophy winning team around England's greatest striker.

It's not that Levy did not sell to City, or will sell to Bayern, or will let Kane walk for free - its that Levy did not take the proper risks to win with Kane. Only Levy can answer to that.

Yeh I think that is pretty clear. Put yourself in Kane’s shoe’s, we made signings but not signings of the level to take us over the line, we threw our eggs in the elite manager basket. Problem is those elite managers won with elite players. It was poor thought out short cuts and we wasted 4 years we could have being using more wisely.

Unless Kane sees us spending £80m on this world class player, £100m on that world class player all with a clear plan to use them he will probably think we are pretenders with neither the vision nor spending to get the trophies. He has given us enough time to get our shit together, he clearly wants to win things before he retires.

I mean we are struggling to fix the centre backs, no elite side looking for trophies would be in our position. It is what it is.

Club needs to get as much from the Kane sale as possible and spend it wisely to improve the squad. I’d be shocked if Kane signed a new deal, very happy but shocked.

 

[McFlash]

That's just terrible business sense. Let's do something detrimental to us to spite them...
Take the emotion out of it and just go for the best deal you can get. Kane clearly wants to leave

Not really, I just think that at present, we value him more than they do and that these little games they're playing through the media aren't doing them any favours.
Levy know the fans will be pissed off if anything other than Kane staying happens but there's no way that Bayern spouting is going to make him let him go for less than the value Levy considers him worth.
If he does sell him now, Levy is going to want big money, or else I think he's happy to keep him.

Yes, my post was written through a fans eyes but Levy will have a price in his mind and no matter what Bayern do, he's not going to budge on that.

 

[AustrianHotspur]

Bild now saying that reporter been banned by our club

FC Bayern: Nach Trikot-Gag um Harry Kane –Tottenham verbannt BILD-Reporter

Bei Tottenham liegen die Nerven blank. Die Spurs verbannen den BILD-Reporter nach Trikot-Gag um Harry Kane und Bayern München.

www.bild.de

I didnt see the paywall article details before...
Here it adds some details that heavily pregnant Kane's wife went to Grunwald suburb near Munich for house hunting...

The suburb specified is where most of the Bayern players live

I have never read a more arrogant article in my life than this one.

 

[DJS]

Would be such a shame not seeing him and Maddison linking up for us this season If he does go.

I’d still take the chance and keep him personally and I especially wouldn’t sell to Bayern now after that dick reporter’s behaviour lol,

 

[rossdapep]

Even after Jose, Levy wasted time with Nuno then made the same mistake hiring Conte that he did when he hired Jose, all in all a complete waste of time.

I get trying Jose but after that he should’ve gone back to a strong project manager who suits the style of play our club want to see and make signings to suit that, if so we’d be 2 years ahead of where we are now and might have even won something.

Anyway, we are where we are at now so need to make the best decisions moving forwards.

For me optimal outcome:
A. We sign Tabsopa, VDV, Gallagher and keep Kane and we are really strong next season
B. We sell Kane, sign Tabsopa, VDV, Gallagher, a Kane replacement and a top class RW and we are really strong next season.

I think part of the reason he didnt do that is because of Kane.

I think he wanted another 'top' coach that could convince Kane to stay. It worked for a little while under Conte and had Conte extended his contract, I reckon Kane may have too.

But last season probably gave Kane confirmation that he had to leave.

This is why you should never look to appease one player. No matter who they are.

Focus on controlling how the club operates, if people are not on board with that, let them go.

I do believe in time that we will see others come out from Kane's shadow and the team will function much more as a unit.

Im not saying Kane is selfish or anything like that.

He is a CF and they typically are very self driven in terms of racking up goals.

Not only that but we have had 2 coaches who are not very dynamic (Jose and Conte). Their systems were set up to get the most out of 2 or 3 players with the rest acting as support.

Now we are moving toward a dynamic system being key, there is less need for a 30 goals CF.

Dont get me wrong, we will miss that at times of course. There will be games we waste chances and drop points which will lead many to say that Kane would have won the game etc.

But our defence and midfield will be much better for the system.

Se should also be more energetic off the ball in the frontline.

Lets be honest, Kane isnt going to press not stop. He isnt that player anymore.

I think we will score more from counter pressing but be a bit more wasteful with chances we carve out ourselves if that makes sense?

Itll kind of cancel itself out

 

[Trent Crimm]

New boot deal prob adidas. BM are a adidas club thru and thru. Remember when Beckham went LA galaxy and adidas stumped up most of the galaxy cash.

No wonder Kane will consider a move to a club you wouldn’t normally think he would. He’s getting a sweet sweet deal and hence why BM are cocksure of getting him.

 

[Smokinhotspur]

Well, I think a lot of people are simply in denial. I've read too many comments from people who are "certain" he would never go to Bayern under any circumstances.

It ignores reality and the evidence in front of their noses.

Kane is very obviously open to such a move - now its up to Spurs and Bayern to see if there is a deal that makes sense to both parties.

I am surprised so many are interpreting Kane's interest in the Bayern move as genuine. I am convinced it is just a smokescreen and he will not end up there. This story ends with him either seeing his contract into the final year or going to another PL club this summer. This is the ultimate decision that Levy and the board will have to make. The only question for me is how long it will take to get to that decision point.