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Klinsmannic

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Imagine having an unassailable (in your lifetime) record with Spurs, the Premier League and England in terms of goals. While playing for your boyhood club. How the fuck is an inevitable trophy at a club in the Bundesliga (who wins whether you’re there or not) more fulfilling? Especially when in the next 5 years you will have the opportunity to win a trophy at a club where you would be celebrated for generations for that achievement. Who gives us a fuck in 10 years time If you were a cog in part of a machine that wins a trophy at City or Bayern or PSG? It would have happened with or without you. No one will remember you for it. Will someone really be taking about a Nathan Ake or Quinton Fortune in 20 years 🤷‍♂️

Do the proper thing, Harry. Stick with Spurs and be a legend.

I hear you, but that's our Spurs fan view. Look at it from a "neutral" perspective: he's been here more than a decade and not won anything, so the chances are against us winning something in the next 5 years.

He wants to play with the best against the best, and that's in the CL, they compete to win it every yeat. We're not in it at all. He also has a good chance of winning the Ballon Dor there, especially with Messi and Ronaldo gone and possibly Mbappe out of the picture for the next year or so. Bayern will pay him at least as much as we can pay him also.

It kind of makes sense to me, as much as I don't like it.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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As a kid I was so upset when C*mpbell, Ginola, Sheringham left.

Even as an adult, Kane will hit different because of what he seemed to represent as ‘one of our own’.

C*mpbell elicited so much hatred we didn’t have to deal with the sadness of it all…
 

0-Tibsy-0

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I hear you, but that's our Spurs fan view. Look at it from a "neutral" perspective: he's been here more than a decade and not won anything, so the chances are against us winning something in the next 5 years.

He wants to play with the best against the best, and that's in the CL, they compete to win it every yeat. We're not in it at all. He also has a good chance of winning the Ballon Dor there, especially with Messi and Ronaldo gone and possibly Mbappe out of the picture for the next year or so. Bayern will pay him at least as much as we can pay him also.

It kind of makes sense to me, as much as I don't like it.
I couldn’t name a balon d’or winner outside of Messi and Ronaldo. (Edit: I lie - I think Zidane may have won it?) I’d rather be a league and club top goal scorer and go down as a legend at my boyhood club.

Maybe it’s different for a player and maybe I don’t mix with the usual person, but I don’t know one football fan who gives a flying fuck about the balon d’or
 

jolsnogross

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Campbell was right to make the move he did. Amazing career after leaving Spurs. That has played out so often nowfor ex-Spurs players, it's boring. And not unnoticed by Kane and any decent player we've had.
 

0-Tibsy-0

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Campbell was right to make the move he did. Amazing career after leaving Spurs. That has played out so often nowfor ex-Spurs players, it's boring. And not unnoticed by Kane and any decent player we've had.
I struggle to accept than anyone who believes that what Campbell did (and by that, I don’t just mean leave Spurs) was ok and right, is really a Tottenham fan.
 

Andertons_Right_Boot

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Speaking of murals, do we now paint over the one we've just painted of him?
He was there with his entire family, sticking their handprints on it while scheming of heading to bloody Germany.

Lesson...wait til a player has retired before painting a bloody great mural in their honour.

I mean, I know hes been a great servant and all that but if he does bugger off now, a couple of months after it was painted, it's rubbing salt into the wounds of the fans who will walk past it every matchday.
Not gonna lie, when I saw that being painted, his family down there for the unveiling and all the social media posts, I thought there is no way Spurs would do that or let that mural go ahead unless he was staying put.
 

HobbitSpur

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Campbell was right to make the move he did. Amazing career after leaving Spurs. That has played out so often nowfor ex-Spurs players, it's boring. And not unnoticed by Kane and any decent player we've had.
It was not the move. It was the consistent “there is nothing to worry about here, I am so happy here at Tottenham, I will definitely be signing a new contract, don’t panic” in that final season before he f**ked off that annoyed spurs fans.
 

Klinsmannic

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I couldn’t name a balon d’or winner outside of Messi and Ronaldo. (Edit: I lie - I think Zidane may have won it?) I’d rather be a league and club top goal scorer and go down as a legend at my boyhood club.

Maybe it’s different for a player and maybe I don’t mix with the usual person, but I don’t know one football fan who gives a flying fuck about the balon d’or

Fans don't care much about the Ballon Dor (though I'm sure we would all be so proud if a Spurs player won it), but players at the very top do care about it. Messi and Ronaldo have had a decade long rivalry trying to win it. Lewandowski was outwardly disappointed at not winning it for Bayern in 2020.

Kane himself said this back in 2017:
"It's been a good year for me and it's one I am happy with but my aim is always to win competitions and win the Ballon d'Or."

Source

He can't do either of these things with Spurs right now sadly.
 

robotsonic

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Fans don't care much about the Ballon Dor (though I'm sure we would all be so proud if a Spurs player won it), but players at the very top do care about it. Messi and Ronaldo have had a decade long rivalry trying to win it. Lewandowski was outwardly disappointed at not winning it for Bayern in 2020.

Kane himself said this back in 2017:
"It's been a good year for me and it's one I am happy with but my aim is always to win competitions and win the Ballon d'Or."

Source

He can't do either of these things with Spurs right now sadly.
He's done a number of interviews where he talks about the PL record also, and he can't do that at Bayern. And numerous interviews where he talks about his aim being to win trophies at Tottenham, that he also can't do elsewhere. I imagine he just wants to achieve something of note from his multiple career goals.
 

Klinsmannic

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He's done a number of interviews where he talks about the PL record also, and he can't do that at Bayern. And numerous interviews where he talks about his aim being to win trophies at Tottenham, that he also can't do elsewhere. I imagine he just wants to achieve something of note from his multiple career goals.

I agree with you. My post was in reference to the Ballon Dor being a goal that the elite players typically pursue.
 

Albertbarich

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Campbell is a grade a prick, I despise him now as much as I ever did.

He wasn't right . He lied, led us along and went to the one place he knew was a huge huge no-no and then has tried the innocent act ever since.

He is a good example of my issue with spurs to this day.

It's always the fans that lose out, every single time. 20 years we have had this lot, pissing around with some success in the second decade but let's have it right, nobody knew Bale was going to turn into that player. He was a left back when we signed him and on the verge of being sold to forest when Redknapp finally gave him a chance. His rise wasn't a genius move it was a young left back we signed that exploded , an amazing story. And Kane himself was a good striker, nobody expected this but how often does a Harry Kane or. Gareth Bale come along? To get a Harry from your youth system isn't a regular thing.

So after years of watching the scum and the chavs win and win, we got a few years of success , except we won't sweet FA and then have just stopped as the chavs do what they do and now the scum are back, oh joy, I'm going to love them lording it over us again because it didn't happen for most of my life. Oh and the one manager who brought joy is now at bloody Chelsea (RAT!).

Harry would be absolutely mad to stay. Even I as a sad obsessed middle aged fan who grew up five minutes from the stadium and could hear the crowd from my bedroom window as a kid, even I would leave. I wouldn't want to work for Daniel Levy. In fact if I was a young player and spurs wanted me I wouldn't go because if I was a success and a Madrid or another side who actually win things come along , Levy whilst refusing to compete wouldn't let me go until I see out a long contract probably losing my time years competing for fourth.

And it's the fans that suffer. He charges the most in the world for everything, he has covered our shirt on red, demolished our home for a soulless entertainment venue, all in the aid of competing which so many sensible Tottenham fans rightly understand, except we never do compete.

Everything about us is pretending to be a big club, but we're not. Were a brand that has figured out how to maximize the amount of cash we can fleece whilst spending as little as possible on the actual football team.

I'm sorry for the rant, the thought of Judas set me off but I sit here and think about how our greatest ever player wants to go to a Mickey mouse league and a club he doesn't care about because he really has no choice if he wants to win anything. It's so sad and such a waste.

Honestly take our emotion and you can't offer one reason why he should stay. Were just lucky he doesn't wanna run down his contract and join that rat at the chavs.
 

Enzo

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I struggle to accept than anyone who believes that what Campbell did (and by that, I don’t just mean leave Spurs) was ok and right, is really a Tottenham fan.

12/01/2001

Sol Campbell has reiterated that he wants to stay at Tottenham.

Big Sol — struggling to overcome a hamstring problem in time for Saturday’s game at Everton — recently ended speculation by insisting in the national press and on television that he believed his future was at the Lane.

His contract is up at the end of the season and, under the terms of the Bosman ruling, he can now talk to clubs on the continent.

But he insists he wants to help bring back the glory, glory days and that all that really mattered was the fans.

A relaxed and happy Sol, in-between treatments at Spurs Lodge, explained: “I’m very happy now. As I’ve stated I’m going to meet people in the near future and start talking about things.

“I’m much happier. I’ve got a lot off my shoulders. I’m looking forward to it.

“New owners are coming in and we’ll talk. There is a lot of time to sort things out. It’s a wonderful club at Tottenham and I want to stick by it.

“New people are coming into the arena and I’m happy and willing to talk. I’m more relaxed now I’ve made the situation clearer.

“It might have knocked some people what I said, good or bad. Some people might have wished that I’d carried on with the status quo. But for the fans who love the club and want it to do well it’s all good.

“All the rest can go by the wayside.”
 

Klinsmannic

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I could be wrong but the OP was staying that they believe Campbell was right to go on the basis of winning trophies alone, I don't think they meant that how he left us was right, or that the act of leaving Spurs itself was right.

🤷‍♂️
 

stormfly

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Fans don't care much about the Ballon Dor (though I'm sure we would all be so proud if a Spurs player won it), but players at the very top do care about it. Messi and Ronaldo have had a decade long rivalry trying to win it. Lewandowski was outwardly disappointed at not winning it for Bayern in 2020.

Kane himself said this back in 2017:
"It's been a good year for me and it's one I am happy with but my aim is always to win competitions and win the Ballon d'Or."

Source

He can't do either of these things with Spurs right now sadly.
If he wins the league for us next season he has a great chance.
 

Klinsmannic

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If he wins the league for us next season he has a great chance.
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Not sure if serious
 

SpursSince1980

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It pains me that Bayern, with all of their shithousery, really do have the upper hand with this potential deal. We can’t afford to let it linger much longer, given our own needs. So, they can slow walk this. Even the move to defer negotiations to early next week, does us no favors and only further strengths their position. Regardless, of who decided to defer a few days.

It just needs to be done. And I think at this point, we will be the losers. As Bayern will get away with something close to 80m, as we don’t have time to let this push out to mid August.

I‘d love to see Levy be brave and give them the ultimatum of meeting his asking price by the middle of next week, or no deal. But I suspect, he will let this go on longer than it should and we will be scrambling to fill critical needs before the end of the window, let alone the start of the season.
 
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