Harry Kane

[nailsy]

Exactly. If our rivals can spend it like it’s going out of fashion even without CL money, I’d love to know our excuse. No doubt it’ll be this stadium they built for a billion quid to increase the value of their asset.

When Kane does go, the minimum us fans should expect is that money to be invested along with whatever money was put aside for transfers at the start of the window. Which should have been enough for Maddison and 2 CBs. 1 quality starter and 1 with potential. The Kane money should be going on someone like Vlahović.

None of this bollocks that once kanes gone we can finally afford the CBs and some young kid for a season to cover alongside Richarlson who hasn’t scored anything noteworthy since being in the Prem.

Why are so many people getting cross about just buying two center backs and a young striker with the Kane money? Has anyone suggested that's the plan?

 

[yido_number1]

Why are so many people getting cross about just buying two center backs and a young striker with the Kane money? Has anyone suggested that's the plan?

Yes, yes they have

 

[yido_number1]

Richarlison has gone straight into my fantasy team. Gonna score a truck load of injuries this season.

Fixed your post.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Why are so many people getting cross about just buying two center backs and a young striker with the Kane money? Has anyone suggested that's the plan?

Cabinessence has use to be called ghostoffarmo called the Bale sale super early

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

I think the issue is that we already have both so that's always going to come to mind for a lot of people
The way it will basically look is we sold our best striker and didn't replace him
We have Soloman in for Danjuma who we had on loan, we have Gil back to replace Moura who has left
Now we could move Perisic into attack so we would be covered but again we already had him and between them they didn't score goals
We definitely need another forward but it has to be genuine competition for Richarlison. Even if it's someone young with potential.

Agree with this. Fans moan about us having poor succession planning but when we look to do just that by promoting a striker we already spent £60m on to replace an outgoing one. It’s then spun as the club being cheap because they aren’t them immediately spending 100m on a replacement. Make it make sense.

 

[TheDoc]

If someone a year ago said you were replacing England's no 9 with brazils no 9, would you be OK with this? I'm interested in seeing richy as a centre forward.

Can people stop referring to Richarlison as "Brazil's number 9" to make him sound much better than he is please?

 

[nicdic]

Tapsoba and VDV have a price - if we were willing to pay it, they would have joined the tour and would be weeks ahead in terms of settling in.

Levy is not willing to pay that price and so is doing his little Levy dance trying to get a “good” deal and prioritising the fee over what is good for the team.

His playing games with numbers have cost us many a good player, Grealish and Sadio Mane to name but two - might those two players have got us over the line and got the trophy monkey off our back? Would Kane be more amenable to a new contract in those circumstances? It’s not unreasonable to think so.

As for 2nd and 3rd choices - Skrinniar too expensive, so Rodon will do. Gvardiol and Skrinniar again too expensive - Lenglet on loan, he‘ll do! We spent circa £130m on 5 players over 6 years trying to replace Kyle Walker.

Sorry, i dont mean to come across as prickly with you or anyone but am just so frustrated by the twisted priorities of Levy and how he runs our club.

OK, but you're making out like this is always what happens, when it patently is not.

Porro, first choice, we paid what they wanted. Now with hindsight lots of people think that was bad.

Maddison, first choice, done quickly and got a good deal.

Kulusevski and Bentancur, first choice done quickly and for good prices.

Going back, Ndombele and Gio were first choices, they took time but were the players Poch wanted.

Richarlison we paid big money for as we wanted him.


The idea that we should just go in and offer whatever is being asked is just not how things work. Every team tries to get the best deal they can, and that's exactly the right way to go about things. Now yes, if that ends up hindering us from making any signings, or the right ones, that's obviously problem. And that is what happens some of the time, but not all of the time.


I agree that Levy/Enic should be doing more, we should be in a better position, but we don't need to go down such black and white routes, because it doesn't deal fairly with history at all.

 

[TC18]

Why are so many people getting cross about just buying two center backs and a young striker with the Kane money? Has anyone suggested that's the plan?

Because I can’t believe our fans should be happy with the thought of that. We’ve needed an overhaul of our defence for at least 2 seasons now and to think we’ve had to sell our best player (ok it’s forced upon us) to fund something that the club can afford is a joke.

What happens as well when Richarlson has his usual time on the sidelines injured? Chuck some lad on with a bit of potential in the hope he can bag us enough goals to fire us up the table?

Richarlsons best season in the prem has seen him score 13 goals, that was around 3 seasons ago. Bring in a proper goalscorer.

 

[yido_number1]

Agree with this. Fans moan about us having poor succession planning but when we look to do just that by promoting a striker we already spent £60m on to replace an outgoing one. It’s then spun as the club being cheap because they aren’t them immediately spending 100m on a replacement. Make it make sense.

I think the main issue is last time we sold Elvis and signed the Beatles. This time we sold Michael Jackson and signed weird Al Jankovic.

 

[Timberwolf]

Can people stop referring to Richarlison as "Brazil's number 9" to make him sound much better than he is please?

Can't believe you'd talk about Brazil's number 9 like that...

 

[chas vs dave]

Can people stop referring to Richarlison as "Brazil's number 9" to make him sound much better than he is please?

OK, does brazils first choice striker sound better?

Thats what he is.

Has he played this position for us? No.

 

[carpediem1906]

Can people stop referring to Richarlison as "Brazil's number 9" to make him sound much better than he is please?

A player is only as good as how you utilise them

See below examples
Yves for Brighton Vs Conte Vs pre season
Royal RCB / RB vs RWB

Richie is a #9 and plays #9 for Brazil and plays well for them in that quick pass move fox in the box role

He is not a RWF or LWF, he is a CF

And by all accounts also fell out / out of favour with Conte (as did many others), so wasn’t at his best

Of cos it goes without saying that Kane is peerless in what he can do as a 9/10, and of cos we prefer him staying

Just saying that when Kane leaves + with the tactics that Ange wants to play, I’d much rather Richarlison be the starting #9 than spend another 50-80m on a striker that is supposed to be the next big thing (neither Vlahovic nor Muani has more than 2 seasons of top performances for eg)

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

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What happens as well when Richarlson has his usual time on the sidelines injured? Chuck some lad on with a bit of potential in the hope he can bag us enough goals to fire us up the table?

Richarlsons best season in the prem has seen him score 13 goals, that was around 3 seasons ago. Bring in a proper goalscorer.

Tbf probably just play Son through the centre. He proved under Poch he can be just as effective there.

Richy has never played as a central striker in an attacking team in the prem. But for Brazil he has a 1 in 2 rate so there is some evidence that for a more attacking high press team he has the profile to be effective. Makes sense to give him a chance rather than just consign him to the bench again.

 

[Rob]

Cabinessence has use to be called ghostoffarmo called the Bale sale super early

Cab is not ghostofarmo. Ghostofarmo was The Scout.

 

[TC18]

Agree with this. Fans moan about us having poor succession planning but when we look to do just that by promoting a striker we already spent £60m on to replace an outgoing one. It’s then spun as the club being cheap because they aren’t them immediately spending 100m on a replacement. Make it make sense.

That’s exactly the problem with the club. If they genuinely thought that Richarlson was the answer for when Kane leaves they are more stupid than I thought. He’s highest goals in the Prem is 13 back in 2020.

It makes it sound like I don’t rate Richarlson. I genuinely like the guy and I like him as a footballer, but he’s no Kane replacement.

We paid over the odds for him, which is okay if Conte wanted him, but use him as an impact sub, use him to complement our front line. We should be looking at a better player to replace Kane.

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Cab is not ghostofarmo. Ghostofarmo was The Scout.

Thanks got them mixed up

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

That’s exactly the problem with the club. If they genuinely thought that Richarlson was the answer for when Kane leaves they are more stupid than I thought. He’s highest goals in the Prem is 13 back in 2020.

It makes it sound like I don’t rate Richarlson. I genuinely like the guy and I like him as a footballer, but he’s no Kane replacement.

We paid over the odds for him, which is okay if Conte wanted him, but use him as an impact sub, use him to complement our front line. We should be looking at a better player to replace Kane.

The reason I think Richarlison can work as the main striker is because he has all the qualities Ange looks for from strikers in his system(he said this himself). In terms of high work rate, pressing, good movement etc…

If we were expecting Richy to lead the line for a Conte or Mourinho team I might have a different opinion.

 

[TC18]

The reason I think Richarlison can work as the main striker is because he has all the qualities Ange looks for from strikers in his system(he said this himself). I the high work rate, pressing, good movement etc…

If we were expecting Richy to lead the line for a Conte or Mourinho team I might have a different opinion.

Can’t disagree with his work rate and his passion for the game, ultimately that might make it work for us and him.

I’m not expecting him to be banging in 30 goals a season, but he needs to be hitting 15 goals for us to stand a chance.

 

[Guntz]

Can’t disagree with his work rate and his passion for the game, ultimately that might make it work for us and him.

I’m not expecting him to be banging in 30 goals a season, but he needs to be hitting 15 goals for us to stand a chance.

I definitely think he can at least get 15 goals this season.

He will get a lot of service from the wingers/fullbacks.

Richarlison also thrives off crosses which I’d expect a lot of in an Ange team.

 

[Timberwolf]

The reason I think Richarlison can work as the main striker is because he has all the qualities Ange looks for from strikers in his system(he said this himself). I the high work rate, pressing, good movement etc…

If we were expecting Richy to lead the line for a Conte or Mourinho team I might have a different opinion.

Exactly. The role of the number 9 is fundamentally different in an Ange team to how we've used Kane in the past few seasons.

I think a good comparison is someone like Firmino at Liverpool. In 8 seasons, 6 of which is was their first choice number 9, the most PL goals he's ever scored was 15, and on 3 occasions he scored below 10 but he was fantastically suited to their specific system. And I think when they were winning the title and in CL finals if you asked Klopp whether he'd trade Firmino for Kane he may well have said no as Firmino's pressing, movement and link-up was so fundamental to their success.

Richarlison is a very different player to Firmino (and I'd certainly expect him to score more goals) but, much like how Firmino suited Liverpool's style better than Kane would've, Richarlison suits Ange's style better than Kane does.

(and just to clarify, yes I think Kane is a much better all-round player and goalscorer than either Firmino or Rich, but that's besides the point).