Harry Kane

[Andertons_Right_Boot]

Sorry, I just can't agree with your point 1.

Levy is the whipping boy and gets so much criticism for the shit he pulls...and rightly so. Ticket prices, super League, Furlough Scheme, manager contingencies, and to some degree the messing about with transfer negotiations. I say some degree because, again, this is more nuanced than blaming one person.

...But Kane and every other player is equally responsible for the failings at this club and what happens on the pitch. Levy wasn't on the field when we played out a limp UCL final, or particpated in that Premier League Challenge against Chelsea or Leciester. He wasn't involved in any of those FA cup or League Cup finals or Semi-finals but Kane was. Even those pathetic performances against Sheffield Utd and Dinamo Zagreb and other lower league sides - Kane was on the pitch for all of them (as Vice Captain).

When you win, everyone does their bit and makes the team work. When you lose, everyone is responsible - Kane included.

That being said, whilst Kane is here I will support here and revere him as Spurs greatest goalscorer. The moment he's out the door to another club I really couldnt give a rat's arse what he does. That is the extent of my loyalty

A beautifully written post. Bang on

 

[Styopa]

Actually Conte achieved amazing results and took us from mid table to top 4. Really was an incredible result. It was short and the club reverted to norm

Conte didn’t take us from mid table, we finished 7th out of 20 teams the season before Conte, and 6th the season before that and 4th the season before that. How is that taking us from mid table?

There’s so much hyperbole in this thread.

 

[McFlash]

I'm sure we would have preferred a CB in, however I'd prefer the right CB, than rushing to get one, just because its early.

I think this is where so many of us are beginning to get uppity because we've been in this situation so often recently, only to end the window missing out.

We've been after at least one CB for three years now, yet here we are again, waiting for the right one as the next season creeps ever closer.

If this was a one off, fine but it's not, we've been here for pretty much the past six windows.

 

[E17yid]

Why? Why as fans do we scrutinise over the numbers? We want the best football team not the best balance sheet.

Edit: more adding to your posted and posing the question.

Some do some don’t I guess. For me, personally, I don’t think there’s much point scrutinising the numbers too much as we don’t know what the numbers are in terms of the full ins and outs, wages and things like that. I think all fans want a good team first but have different opinions on what that would look like and how to get there. This Kane saga is a good example, some think we’ll be a stronger overall and others say weaker, some say keep and we’ll be better off but that’s the fun part I guess, no one knows and we all strap ourselves in for the ride come the start of the season.

 

[RuskyM]

I look at posts suggesting Levy hasn’t been putting money into getting players the manager wants, and I look at Pedro Porro, and the two simply can’t coexist.

Our squad is bloated as it is. We can’t add players for the hell of it. Get the right lad in, and if that takes time, fine.

 

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I get that, but he also wanted to take 31 players on tour. I don't know what was said prior.

I'm sure we would have preferred a CB in, however I'd prefer the right CB, than rushing to get one, just because its early.

“Rushing to get one in just because it’s early”!!! Are you having a laugh?! The same 2 targets haven’t changed since the beginning of the window! We’ve been talking/negotiating with Tabsoba & VDVen throughout, and now it’s barely 2 weeks before the season starts. There’s no excuse for not having at least 1 of them here, and neither should be dependent on the Kane money.

 

[djhotspur]

There’s no point having a succession plan (Richarlison) if you’re not going to give it a shot. The replacement should be the next succession plan etc etc and the cycle continues.
I’m quite happy with this approach - but my guess is Alex Scott will be the attacking buy (for lots of reasons) and that’s not succession planning

Scott isn’t a front 3 player. He’s an attacking 8. We need a pacey player to play across the front 3. No clue who that could be. Muani can play striker or Rw but doesn’t look like we wanna spend that kinda money

 

[djhotspur]

I look at posts suggesting Levy hasn’t been putting money into getting players the manager wants, and I look at Pedro Porro, and the two simply can’t coexist.

Our squad is bloated as it is. We can’t add players for the hell of it. Get the right lad in, and if that takes time, fine.

Yes but porro is a prime example of our failings. Conte was going so why buy Porro? Levy obviously thought he was a good prospect signing but it was stupid. That 45m would have got tapsoba already, plus then we could probably sign Muani and vdv with Kane money.

 

[Guernman]

Why does it take selling our best player in donkeys years to fund the biggest hole in our squad though? We’re a big club! We shouldn’t have to sell our star player to make purchases! It’s dog shit!

Exactly. It's typical BS from the club. I get that if Harry is not willing to consider a new contract we are likely to sell, but the official position from the club is that we would do everything to persuade him to sign. Well how about strenthening the squad then and showing him we are serious. Instead we have twisted this situation so it's now either or, Kane stays or we get the defensive rebuild we need. Always moving the goal posts with the fans

 

[nicdic]

I look at posts suggesting Levy hasn’t been putting money into getting players the manager wants, and I look at Pedro Porro, and the two simply can’t coexist.

Our squad is bloated as it is. We can’t add players for the hell of it. Get the right lad in, and if that takes time, fine.

Sorry dude, no one must have explained to you the rules around here. You are allowed, nay, expected to present your argument using evidence that backs it up, and can ignore anything that would provide anything that would provide weight to the opposing argument. No need to deal with reality, just pick and choose which facts are relevant.

Hope this helps.

 

[SaKkA.kenchiku]

Conte didn’t take us from mid table, we finished 7th out of 20 teams the season before Conte, and 6th the season before that and 4th the season before that. How is that taking us from mid table?

There’s so much hyperbole in this thread

It’s not hyperbole at all. Before Conte we had Nuno. We are absolutely around an 8th placed team, in the period he took over, to get us to 4th was An excellent performance. There is a reason we sang Antonios name and only his. Not hyperbole it was an extremely success turn around. Now Conte imploded because Conte is Conte and Levy is Levy, but its not hyperbole and you only only highlight the point someo us don’t look at the facts. Unless your arguing 7,8th is not midTable? Hyperbole massive over statement.

 

[Real_madyidd]

I’ll see your 3 CBs and raise you 4, any less and we riot

I think we should only play CBs.

 

[McFlash]

I look at posts suggesting Levy hasn’t been putting money into getting players the manager wants, and I look at Pedro Porro, and the two simply can’t coexist.

Our squad is bloated as it is. We can’t add players for the hell of it. Get the right lad in, and if that takes time, fine.

Porro was just the weirdest signing we've made for a while and for me, another sign that Levy has no plan.

To spend so much on a very niche player, for a manager who didn't look like he was going to be staying anyway?

I'm honestly not sure what Levy was thinking with that, apart from in being a bit of a panic move.

 

[sidford]

Bloody hell how slow are sky sports in news. Their breaking news now is that Bayern lads are flying over for talks, keep up lads come on

 

[Locotoro]

I think this is where so many of us are beginning to get uppity because we've been in this situation so often recently, only to end the window missing out.

We've been after at least one CB for three years now, yet here we are again, waiting for the right one as the next season creeps ever closer.

If this was a one off, fine but it's not, we've been here for pretty much the past six windows.

But this is not something unique to Spurs and Spurs fans.

Every other club is missing that one or two players to take them to the next level. How long were Man Utd without that CM that will elevate them since it was clear the Pogba experiment was going to fail? They brought in Van der Beek, Casimiro, Sabitzer, Mount, Eriksen, Fernandes and Fred - all since 2019. Some have done well, and some haven't. When it works the fans are happy, when it doesn't they blame the Glazers for not investing right. All clubs always just need another player to improve and sometimes they spend big and it works and sometimes they get a bargain and it works. just as sometimes they spend big and it flops and sometimes they go cheap and it fails.

As much as it's not a one off, its never just one position.

 

[nicdic]

Porro was just the weirdest signing we've made for a while and for me, another sign that Levy has no plan.

To spend so much on a very niche player, for a manager who didn't look like he was going to be staying anyway?

I'm honestly not sure what Levy was thinking with that, apart from in being a bit of a panic move.

And yet, at the time there was exactly the same hysteria about the transfer taking so long, and how pathetic Levy was for not just getting it done.

 

[nedley]

This is going to sting.

Arguably our greatest ever player .

4 disagrees here.

People are proper odd.

 

[nicdic]

4 disagrees here.

People are proper odd.

Rather than deal with reality, people have been making up all sorts of coping mechanisms for the past 3 or 4 years.

 

[jpascavitz]

Interested to see if any further names come out of this meeting. I know swap deals rarely happen but news/rumors this morning are Pavard wants to leave the club this Summer. He only has one year left on his deal and is refusing to sign.

Kane goes for 100 odd million and we look to complete that in a separate deal? Bayern get some money back, Levy still gets his 100m goal (lol)

He seems to want to leave and the rumors throughout the Summer have been that he wants to play his preferred CB role rather than RB (where Bayern play him). He's great with both feet, I have no doubt he could battle for RCB with Romero while playing next to him at LCB.

I think he'd end up at PSG or a UCL club, but City were interested in him - yet seem to be going for Gvardiol atm.

 

[SaKkA.kenchiku]

I look at posts suggesting Levy hasn’t been putting money into getting players the manager wants, and I look at Pedro Porro, and the two simply can’t coexist.

Our squad is bloated as it is. We can’t add players for the hell of it. Get the right lad in, and if that takes time, fine.

Levy does to an extent but its always under what is required, he back managers to a certain point but never went further it was always a compromise, its why we will do well but perhaps never quite get to where we wont. To my point with Kane and Conte, he hired Conte, spent bigger than we normal do ,but not quite as far as Conte needed. Cnote was the wrong fit for Levy if he wont back him, if we had the CB conte wanted we might of progressed, we did not. We didn’t. And Conte blew up. Conte at the time was enough for Kane and he had bought into the project, but the team and the chairman didn’t not have the same mentality as Kane and Conte. Kane knows it wont happen for SPurs for the next 2/3 years and hopefully Ange is our new Poch because I enjoyed those years.