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JUSTINSIGNAL

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I look at posts suggesting Levy hasn’t been putting money into getting players the manager wants, and I look at Pedro Porro, and the two simply can’t coexist.

Our squad is bloated as it is. We can’t add players for the hell of it. Get the right lad in, and if that takes time, fine.

Levy doesn't back the manager with any signings he wants other than the time he backs him with the signing he wants but because the manager decided to have a meltdown and get sacked it is Levy's fault for backing the manager with a signing he wanted.
 

Lo Amo Speroni

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Whatever happens, I'll be glued to TV watching Spurs all this season and how ever many more seasons I have left.
How Kane is doing in Germany will be of little interest to me.
It looks like the manager is going to play some nice front foot football which I am excited about.
I am also looking forward to how we spend our money during the rest of this window.
I'm not interested in losing my shit though as we have no idea how good we'll be this season.
Oh and predicting the future is not reality.
 

Locotoro

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Porro was just the weirdest signing we've made for a while and for me, another sign that Levy has no plan.

To spend so much on a very niche player, for a manager who didn't look like he was going to be staying anyway?

I'm honestly not sure what Levy was thinking with that, apart from in being a bit of a panic move.
I honestly think that Levy thought signing Porro would convince Conte to stay and that's why he spent that money. In hindsight, I think the Spence deal looks just as weird seeing as he was barely used.

I agree that we don't look like we are following a plan consistently or at least we look like we're stuck between multiple plans and getting the worst of all
 

cjbyid

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4 disagrees here.

People are proper odd.

Not really, they just don't agree.

A lot of the older spurs (no offence to the older crew lol) have seen players just as good in our shirt.

My dad is 65, been spurs all his life and he wouldn't call Kane our greatest ever ever player.
 
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WiganSpur

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Only question about the recent ITK is about how good that forward is gonna be. I have my doubts that it will be a better player than Son and Richarlison, which is what we need. If it’s a young prospect we need to be bringing in a serious wonderkid on top of those CBS for me to be convinced of our ambition. I want to see £100-150m net spend plus Kane and other sales if that’s what we have to do to get Ange what he needs.
 

neogenisis

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Porro was just the weirdest signing we've made for a while and for me, another sign that Levy has no plan.

To spend so much on a very niche player, for a manager who didn't look like he was going to be staying anyway?

I'm honestly not sure what Levy was thinking with that, apart from in being a bit of a panic move.
I'm very sure Levy was the only person who didn't think Conte would leave.
 

McFlash

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But this is not something unique to Spurs and Spurs fans.

Every other club is missing that one or two players to take them to the next level. How long were Man Utd without that CM that will elevate them since it was clear the Pogba experiment was going to fail? They brought in Van der Beek, Casimiro, Sabitzer, Mount, Eriksen, Fernandes and Fred - all since 2019. Some have done well, and some haven't. When it works the fans are happy, when it doesn't they blame the Glazers for not investing right. All clubs always just need another player to improve and sometimes they spend big and it works and sometimes they get a bargain and it works. just as sometimes they spend big and it flops and sometimes they go cheap and it fails.

As much as it's not a one off, its never just one position.
That just shows me that other clubs are prepared to attempt to fix the issues.
Sure, not every signing will work out but if you don't sign anyone, it's definitely not going to fix the problem.

I don't expect every signing to be great but I wouldn't mind if the club actually tried signing some.
How many cb's have we signed to fix the hole that was originally pointed out by Jose?
Lenglet. On loan.

It's not even about how much they cost.
 

McFlash

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And yet, at the time there was exactly the same hysteria about the transfer taking so long, and how pathetic Levy was for not just getting it done.
That's always going to be the case because we all want shiny new players NOW.
It wasn't really a position we were desperate to strengthen though, was it?
I'm not judging it by the reactions of SC, I'm just saying it was a weird thing to spend 45m on.

We've been crying out for a CB for years.
 

SaKkA.kenchiku

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Not really, they just don't agree.

A lot of the older spurs (no offence to the older crew lol) have seen players just as good in our shirt.

My dad is 65, been spurs all his life and he wouldn't call Kane our greatest ever player.
Really though…. Kane It’s hard to argue not in the top two. His stats are clear. Only Greaves beats Him….. I never had the chance to view Hoddle and I was in love with Ginola, and Berba, but Kane is in the top 3 for sure. Leaving now or not he will still be there
 

nicdic

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That just shows me that other clubs are prepared to attempt to fix the issues.
Sure, not every signing will work out but if you don't sign anyone, it's definitely not going to fix the problem.

I don't expect every signing to be great but I wouldn't mind if the club actually tried signing some.
How many cb's have we signed to fix the hole that was originally pointed out by Jose?
Lenglet. On loan.

It's not even about how much they cost.
There's also just probably a lot more to it than just going Levy didn't sign them.

How many players did we seriously try for that their clubs were willing to sell? How many were asking for reasonable fees? Etc.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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Doom and gloom everywhere, when our previous record scorer left the club we won silverware for three successive seasons. Cheer up everybody , life will go on.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Doom and gloom everywhere, when our previous record scorer left the club we won silverware for three successive seasons. Cheer up everybody , life will go on.
Agreed. Honestly, if we reinvest the money we'll make in VDV and Tapsoba, and get in another attacker, I'll see that as a net gain - life goes on, as you say!
 

BENNO

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i just want to put it out there that under a non Levy/ENIC regime, i had the dubious privilege of watching us sign (and play) a young striker called Dave McEwan, who'd come from Dulwich Hamlets after we'd played a reserve game against them and he caught the eye of David Pleat. He was about as good as you'd expect, bless him. So that's my baseline for a bad striker signing, we'd do well to trump that.
 
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"dont seem to"

Those would be the key words.

Too many can't wait to jump on *anything* and fit it to the chosen narrative.
Trix’ assumption is clearly a fair and logical one, based on lived experience and a knowledge of “behind the scenes” that you and I don’t possess.
If as you’re suggesting, the Club isn’t waiting on the Kane money to fund our new CBs, why haven’t they been bought already? It’s not like it isn’t a priority position!! Sounds like you too are jumping on any excuse to fit your “chosen narrative”.
 

wadewill

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Many different angles on it, obviously record goalscorer, that's a fact

How people define greatest player is a differing opinion for a start - most impactful to the club or actually best footballer? If its the latter then Bale and Modric were ahead of Kane in the last 15 years alone.

Calling people odd because they don't agree with you on something that is very open to debate and subjective makes you a bit of a twat.
 

chelmyid

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By all means, a succession plan should be given a chance to work before being canned. If Richarlison was signed as Kane's successor, then the owners gave up on convincing Kane to stay long before now, so it would be extremely disappointing if that's the case (irrespective of how well Richarlison goes on to do).

I had hoped Richarlison was signed as a back-up CF who could also play alongside Kane and provide an extra option on the wings. Last summer, if it had been clear that Richarlison was being signed as Kane's successor, most fans would have been outraged. Following a season where Richarlison only scored on PL goal, it should be expected that fans will be even less happy with this succession plan now than they would have been last summer.
I agree with the performance comments 100% - although there are many varying factors into why only 1 goal was scored
Most importantly in all of this will be Anges thoughts. If he think Richarlison (with Maddison now feeding) as the main man will work - then we have to see that through for at least a while
 

Albertbarich

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i just want to put it out there that under a non Levy/ENIC regime, i had the dubious privilege of watching us sign (and play) a young striker called Dave McEwan, who'd come from Dulwich Hamlets after we'd played a reserve game against them and he caught the eye of David Pleat. He was about as good as you'd expect, bless him. So that's my baseline for a bad striker signing, we'd do well to trump that.
Nobody beats Raziak for absolute shit imo
 

chelmyid

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Scott isn’t a front 3 player. He’s an attacking 8. We need a pacey player to play across the front 3. No clue who that could be. Muani can play striker or Rw but doesn’t look like we wanna spend that kinda money
Appreciate the information - and totally agree with all your points. I just think Scott will be the obvious, young, English, Tottenham fan, relatively cheap (or at least seen as investment proof) etc etc - but again - agree with your points
 

McFlash

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How many were asking for reasonable fees?
And therein probably lies the crux of the issue, what we consider to be a "reasonable fee".
In my book, Tapsoba for 50 odd million is a pretty reasonable fee, given his age, profile and our need for a player like him.
I'm not one of the "just pay up Levy FFS" gang but I do think there are times when we need to show a bit more ambition to actually get our targets.
 

BENNO

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Nobody beats Raziak for absolute shit imo
There you go, another example of why i'm far more relaxed and chilled about the current Spurs shit show than a lot on here 'cos i was a season ticket holder through all of that and you lot don't know how good you've got it - even now :)
 
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