Harry Kane

[BENNO]

If we “push on” he’s gone next season regardless. I think it’s 2-3 times more likely he joins Poch next season on a free than there is him signing a new contract with us (Even if by some miracle we got top 4)

Its that second to last paragraph though that changes it for me, if it's definitely accurate (and i assume it's all from a Kane camp briefing so i'm taking it all as accurate) then it says ''If he does stay put this summer, Kane is prepared to negotiate a contract extension with the club during the early months if they show signs of significant progress....''.

Now i'm not a fan of the undefined 'significant progress' bit cos you can twist that plenty of ways, but to me it is highly significant that they use the words 'contract extension during the early months' because i thought the previous noises were that he was open to a) going now b) staying a year and going in 12 months or c) staying a year and signing a new contract next summer if he liked what he saw from Ange.

Reassessing things in the early months of the season is different and gives us options, it'll be before the January window for starters, so you could potentially get a reduced fee for him then if he stated he didn't see progress and wouldn't sign a new contract, and the use of the word extension intrigues me, as we have seen a few cases of loyal players who have extended running down contracts by an extra 12 months purely to allow their club to gain a transfer fee.

I would definitely want some clarity on whether signing a pre contract with a foreign club in January after making an early assessment of the teams progress under Ange was also an option, cos that definitely wouldn't be good - that is the only bit that isn't covered in that piece ??

 

[Jaddas]

If Kane can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

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I actually think there is a better chance today that he ultimately signs an extension with Spurs than I did at the start of the summer.


I think if he stays now - and we make the improvements we need, that Spurs will be well positioned next summer to convince him to stay.

 

[ernest_lowrider]

This PR briefing from Kane’s camp is a masterclass.

Pretty much says either strengthen the team significantly so we can push on or sell me before the 13th. Do neither and I leave on a free.

Puts all of the pressure on Levy.

Man, "masterclass" and "from Kane's camp" sound really weird in one sentence.

 

[felmani26]

We will see. But, I think the number will be smaller than most expect.

Its already a small number - given what Kane wants - to compete for top trophies.

Add to that, his age, and wage and contract demands.

Add to that the teams that have good strikers/forwards already - and won't want to pay £600k/week for a rotational striker.

Add to that - if he stays at Spurs this year - he will be that much closer to the PL record, which then becomes a bigger factor for him next summer.

It's 2-3 teams - at best. And, if he stays, Spurs would be one of those teams.


(And this all assumes that Kane does not see a drop-off in performance this season, or suffer a significant injury - if either of those things happen - there won't be a market for Kane outside of Tottenham)

I'd say the narrative 'compete for top trophies' is the spin put out by media and rival fans as opposed to Kane explicitly stating that's his sole reason for ever leaving the club.

We haven't progressed as he (or any of us) have envisaged in recent seasons or be convinced enough that under ENIC we will in the short term so naturally will seek a club who's on the upward trajectory/competing in the CL.

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

If Kane can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

If Mourinho can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

If Conte can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

If Kane can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

 

[Trix]

Clearly Bayern aren’t poor. But they don’t have the same broadcast or match day revenue that we or any other large PL team has. I think they’re hitting a brick wall in terms of what they can output. So it’ll be instalments or a player offer that gets them across the line…if they are able to

Fuck em, they need to cut their cloth accordingly then and get on with it.
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People keep saying Levy won't want to lose an 80mil asset for nothing but it isn't as simple as that. He's worth a lot of money to the club through sponsorship and image rights etc that we lose if we sell him. Then you have to guesstimate how much more in prize money we pick up from having him in the side. Once all of that is taken off it's a lot less than 80million that's for sure. Levy will have a lot more factored into his figures than what tranfermarkt have him down at.

 

[nicdic]

There are essentially 2 scenarios:

1. Agree a fee with Bayern and sell Kane this summer for £80m-100m. Re-invest that money into CB’s, a true DM destroyer, and a forward who can play across front 3 positions. Club moves on.

2. Keep Kane this season and still buy a CB, a DM and sell deadwood this transfer window. Kane stays and with the new players we improve this season. Next summer is still under a cloud unless Kane signs a new contract during the season.

In either scenario we need to invest in the squad and buy a CB at least and also defensive midfield depending on outgoings. This is where we have failed already this window as that CB is essential to our season plans and outcome. We were absolutely terrible in defence last season and also in midfield after Bentancur was injured. We don’t have an imposing midfielder who is strong in duels, mobile and robust. Clearly this must be noticed by the recruitment team as a gap in our overall team skill set and characteristics.

Unless we address these 2 glaring weaknesses we will not significantly improve defensively. Højbjerg should be sold and upgraded, I like him as a player but when Bentancur is back and hopefully finds form we won’t need him as much as we have players who can do a similar job.

Also With regards to Bayern they were in a similar position last summer with Lewandowski and eventually sold him for €50m to Barca. He was their main man, main striker, biggest threat and goal guarantee. Kane is similar but younger than Lewi was last summer when sold, but to our club he means more and is homegrown which counts for a lot as quality HG in the Prem are scarce. They really need to pay up given the current market or walk away and concede.

However, instead of waiting for this outcome we should be buying the essential players to plug the gaps in our squad - they are required regardless and it’s imperative we have them in now otherwise we aren’t bridging the gap to top 6 or top 4. Aston Villa have had a much better window and got their first targets, a lesser club but done very good business in a far better way after being back in Europe.

We're not buying a DM destroyer. Where on earth have you got that from? I don't see us buying a CM at all.

 

[nicdic]

If Mourinho can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

If Conte can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

If Kane can’t get Levy to spend, then no one can.

Sorry, can you explain to me what rules we're applying to counting money spent?

 

[EJWTartanSpur]

Keep diving in and out of this thread, wondering ….

where is all this Chelsea chat coming from ? Even if there is some sort of rumours flying about … I’m sorry can’t see it, NO WAY Kane goes to Chelsea, no way in hell.

Also, good on Kane for this latest statement

 

[Cuore da Leone]

Sell him now and give Richarlison a fair shot. This saga is completely dampening the enthusiasm and optimism that was brought by our manager. We can’t afford to have the start to the season ruined by it.

Kane is irreplaceable, but selling him now is damage control at least.

 

[DJS]

I’d still prefer to keep and get those centre backs in.

If we then start off on a flying and are doing well, indications are Kane may extend.

It’s quite simple that we just need centre backs now, although support spurs we don’t do simple…

 

[mil1lion]

We will see. But, I think the number will be smaller than most expect.

Its already a small number - given what Kane wants - to compete for top trophies.

Add to that, his age, and wage and contract demands.

Add to that the teams that have good strikers/forwards already - and won't want to pay £600k/week for a rotational striker.

Add to that - if he stays at Spurs this year - he will be that much closer to the PL record, which then becomes a bigger factor for him next summer.

It's 2-3 teams - at best. And, if he stays, Spurs would be one of those teams.


(And this all assumes that Kane does not see a drop-off in performance this season, or suffer a significant injury - if either of those things happen - there won't be a market for Kane outside of Tottenham)

Where's 600k come from? He won't get anywhere near that here anyway. If he sees his contract out he'll get at least similar to what we pay him currently so that would suit him. There will be a lot of clubs in for him on those wages and a free transfer. Whether he will be interested in all of them is another matter but he will have plenty of options. I still think City would take him just to stay dominant and stop their competition getting him. He's still the best homegrown player at the end of the day.

 

[muppetman]

Isn't it Bayern who need to shit or get off the pot? They seem to be offering far less than we are willing to accept...

He's our player - set a price and conditions with a timeline and stick to it.

 

[wrd]

You make some good points there.

Sorry, my last post was more of a general rant than aimed directly at you. I focused on the comparison to Arsenal because their FA Cup wins and strong 2022-23 PL campaign (which may or may not turn out to be an anomaly) seem to be repeatedly used as a stick with which to beat ourselves, with the performances / achievements (or lack of in our case) being sensationalised for both teams.

Ah okay, I can appreciate that.

 

[Cel]

It's 100% not what's happening, but I would laugh so, so hard if Bayern were ultimately being used to get a better contract offer, seeing how bloody often it happens to us lol.

 

[nicdic]

Keep diving in and out of this thread, wondering ….

where is all this Chelsea chat coming from ? Even if there is some sort of rumours flying about … I’m sorry can’t see it, NO WAY Kane goes to Chelsea, no way in hell.

Also, good on Kane for this latest statement

I think it's people just playing a game of worst case scenario.

 

[BENNO]

Well i'm doing a full U-Turn and am currently blowing up He's One Of Our Own balloons and putting up the bunting.

 

[wrd]

If Kane goes to Chelsea then as far as I'm concerned, that's his choice, he's given us everything. I appreciate it's a bit of a love triangle, Kane - Fans - Club and the fan's are not responsible for the actions of the club but Kane has tried to be everything he can for both and honestly I think he deserves to be a bit selfish with his next choice. Obviously I personally hope it's not Chelsea but if that's what he chooses, I'll accept it. He's not done a Sol Campbell and led us down a merry path.

If he stays then the club have an opportunity to convince him that we're a home worth being apart of, he's sacrificed the majority of his career to make it a happy home, if he chooses Chelsea then we should do our best to understand his decisions in relation to the rest of it.

 

[Razorspur]

Putting money aside - the point with Harry is - what is the purpose of Tottenham as a football club? You have one the best stadiums in the world, we are not short of money - if you sell the best player in a generation what does it say as a club. Clubs sell their players all the time, but the biggest clubs do so on their terms. I am totally for selling him on our terms, not this way worrying about whether he would leave for free.