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SpartanSpur

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Why?

If he’s got us £90m+ ideally £100-120mil then I’d say 3/4+ of our fans will see that as a good outcome him going to a non PL side for over £100mil, however ofc it depends how we reinvest the money but we have already made 5 fairly exciting signings so as a platform to build on for a transfer window it’s fairly positive.

I blame levy as much as the next person but if he sells Kane now to Bayern for a decent fee then I don’t think he’ll get much heat tbh. *assuming he doesn’t then pocket the £100m which I don’t think he will lol* 😅 🤔

Personally I'd always be bitter at Levy for never putting a trophy winning team around our best ever player. Getting money for him now wouldn't make any difference for me.

In fact I'd respect Levy more for not selling him and spending the next year trying to convince him to stay.

I'll never celebrate us getting any fee for a player we should have never had to sell.
 

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Completely see where you’re coming from but if this gets done by say Wednesday for a really big decent fee meaning we sign a top top CB on top of VDV a decent Kane replacement maybe a CM and RW then having dragged it out a few days past a fairly decent deadline is ok, if this drags on until Thu/Fri just days before our first game and/or longer the yep completely destabilising us and bad news all round.

It’s tricky though because who’s to say Bayern haven’t been dragging this out a bit too, it’s only now they’ve met or got close to our valuation so up until now we were never going to accept anyway, if by us dragging this out 2 weeks longer we get an extra say £30-40mil that player could make a big difference overall.

I hate that levy drags shit out but this deal isn’t simple at all so I can understand this one a bit more and how it’s gone and too be fair with VDV and Veilz also signed that’s 5 key positions all signed before the start of the season which for us is decent going especially considering we’ve not yet sold many at all.
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I know I’m being emotional on this, but we’ve brought in all those players for less than we’ll receive for Kane. We could keep Kane and sign those additional players and be in a really exciting position and have still spent less than Arsenal by a significant amount this summer. I know they’re in the CL so are spending but if the CL is so lucrative and we’ve been there a lot more often than them recently why wouldn’t we commit to try and get back there and cover the Kane loss?
 

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Personally I'd always be bitter at Levy for never putting a trophy winning team around our best ever player. Getting money for him now wouldn't make any difference for me.

In fact I'd respect Levy more for not selling him and spending the next year trying to convince him to stay.
Agree totally that we (Levy) have let Kane down but Levy would get 100x more heat if Kane walked on a free next summer especially if it was to a PL team rather than selling to Bayern for £100m+ now.
 
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fishhhandaricecake

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I know I’m being emotional on this, but we’ve brought in all those players for less than we’ll receive for Kane. We could keep Kane and sign those additional players and be in a really exciting position and have still spent less than Arsenal by a significant amount this summer. I know they’re in the CL so are spending but if the CL is so lucrative and we’ve been there a lot more often than them recently why wouldn’t we commit to try and get back there and cover the Kane loss?
Yea completely agree mate, suppose we need to see how it plays out.
 

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IOMLS is right.

It doesn't make business sense at all to sell your best player who gives you the best chance of success, for any amount of money. All those arguing that it does completely misunderstand how little £100m is to this football club.

You do not sell Harry Kane.
 

SpartanSpur

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IOMLS is right.

It doesn't make business sense at all to sell your best player who gives you the best chance of success, for any amount of money. All those arguing that it does completely misunderstand how little £100m is to this football club.

You do not sell Harry Kane.

I'm holding out hope that when it comes down to the final decision Levy can't do it for this reason.
 

lobob8

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The crux of it is this I think. We're trying to justify it by saying we'll have £100m from Kane's sale to spend on a top CB and/or an exciting FW. Exactly the kind of ambitious moves that we should have made already, as a supposed top club, in London, 10th most valuable in the world. And if we had made these moves we wouldn't be talking about this because Kane would be chomping at the bit to stay. It's honestly infuriating that it's come to this. If Kane goes, the blame goes square on Levy. I don't care how much money we're able to get for him. If we're a club with the ambition to get back to the top, as we all think and hope we are, you simply don't sell players like Kane. And that's without going into his legacy and status at this club.
 

sundanceyid10

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IOMLS is right.

It doesn't make business sense at all to sell your best player who gives you the best chance of success, for any amount of money. All those arguing that it does completely misunderstand how little £100m is to this football club.

You do not sell Harry Kane.
I would add as well we don’t have a great track record when we spend big money on players either. So getting a large fee for Kane doesn’t mean we would necessarily reinvest the money wisely. Sure we might get good players in. But many of our high value purchases in recent times have been poor.
 

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Not selling Kane is one of the last chances Levy has to get it right

£10m short still won't get accepted. Munich have pissed Daniel off with their constant goings on in the media and when that happens the bloke usually sticks to his guns and then some.

They have 4 days...
 

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Completely see where you’re coming from but if this gets done by say Wednesday for a really big decent fee meaning we sign a top top CB on top of VDV a decent Kane replacement maybe a CM and RW then having dragged it out a few days past a fairly decent deadline is ok, if this drags on until Thu/Fri just days before our first game and/or longer the yep completely destabilising us and bad news all round.

It’s tricky though because who’s to say Bayern haven’t been dragging this out a bit too, it’s only now they’ve met or got close to our valuation so up until now we were never going to accept anyway, if by us dragging this out 2 weeks longer we get an extra say £30-40mil that player could make a big difference overall.

I hate that levy drags shit out but this deal isn’t simple at all so I can understand this one a bit more and how it’s gone and too be fair with VDV and Veilz also signed that’s 5 key positions all signed before the start of the season which for us is decent going especially considering we’ve not yet sold many at all.
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And whose fault is that? Levy might be bad at buying players but he’s much worse at selling them
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Not selling Kane is one of the last chances Levy has to get it right
Levy has no chances left he’s had his 9 lives many times over 🐈❌

But if Kane doesn’t want to be here mate and high risk next summer he leaves for nothing potentially to a PL rival which weakens us, strengthens them and we have no money to replace him which we would have by selling him this summer then is he really worth keeping for what would effectively be a £100mil+ 1 season loan?

I completely get your sentiment but surely the bigger picture given the huge risk of him walking on a free means selling to Bayern for £100mil + is a decent move all things considered 🤷‍♂️ I know in todays market it’s not loads of money but it’s £100mil more than £0 which is what we’d get next summer and it’s to a non PL side.

It’s not ideal and I’d rather he stayed and we convinced him to re-sign a new contract but if we do sell him and sign say, Laporte, Orban, a top class RW and say Gallagher or JWP then our squad overall would be pretty damn good and we’d essentially go into next summer with £100mil extra in our transfer budget and with a better squad than we would’ve had.

I think with certain other managers keeping Kane for one more season would’ve been essential but Ange can get a lot out of players who aren’t necessarily huge money signings so if we split the £100-120mil across 3 top signings that could really offset a lot of the impact of losing Kane and in this new system with the right new signings when replacing Kane goals will come from many avenues.

Arsenal, Man.U and Newcastle finished above us without a Harry Kane last season, give Ange a really strong rounded squad with no European football and I think we could really surprise some people.
 

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I know I’m being emotional on this, but we’ve brought in all those players for less than we’ll receive for Kane. We could keep Kane and sign those additional players and be in a really exciting position and have still spent less than Arsenal by a significant amount this summer. I know they’re in the CL so are spending but if the CL is so lucrative and we’ve been there a lot more often than them recently why wouldn’t we commit to try and get back there and cover the Kane loss?
We know why.. Levy doesn't have the same mindset and desire to win as their owners do, unfortunately. It's more annoying as it looked like they'd landed some real leeches in charge of the club but it's turned around for them.

If the Kane money does come it needs to go on someone of stature in addition to what we were already doing. Changing a guaranteed 20-30 goals for an injury-prone Richarlison and 2 kiddies brand new to the league is a big risk.
 

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I get that it’s an emotional situation with Harry as we probably all live are dreams through him as a local boy who’s reached the pinnacle of his game . But business is business mate
And that’s why I think Levy sells, even if it’s official deadline day. He’s a businessman, not a fan, he won’t/can’t walk away from the money.

But in my eyes, as an accountant for those that like to use that as an insult, if he sells he’s got that fundamentally wrong. Nothing he can say or do will ever change that he sold our best player because we didn’t/couldn’t/wouldn’t match his ambition. Stadium is a game changer my arse.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Agree totally on him that we’ve let Kane down but Levy would get 100x more heat if Kane walked on a free next summer especially if it was to a PL team!
Forum of opinions so no worries this is getting some disagrees and if some people feel that they’d personally rather keep Kane than sell now then I totally get that but I’m a ST holder and on my WhatsApp group and speaking with many other matchgoing fans I think the majority would say that Levy would get far more heat letting Harry walk on a free to a potential PL side next summer than he would taking £100m+ from Bayern now especially on the basis that Kane won’t commit to a new deal.

Surprised that a fair few on here disagree with that and I don’t think the match going fans would feel like that. Same way that Levy gets tons of heat on here but in reality at the home games even during the worst times last season there was really actually unfortunately not that much chanting or ‘heat’ directed towards the little bald bean 🫘 counter.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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Levy has to refuse to sell him, then do enough to convince him he should sign a new contract.

That is his job.

Selling him when he would stay if we matched his ambition is not good business.

It’s a cop out.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Levy has to refuse to sell him, then do enough to convince him he should sign a new contract.

That is his job.

Selling him when he would stay if we matched his ambition is not good business.

It’s a cop out.
Completely get that but I believe it’s too little too late now so no matter of signings etc will change Harry’s mind now from what we are hearing.

But yes totally agree that this would be the ideal scenario.
 
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