Harry redknapp

[mil1lion]

Attractive football? I must have been missing that the past few months.

Leeds was only a few days ago. The best FA Cup 4th round tie as it happens. And thats thanks to our open and fast paced approach.

 

[gibbs131]

It is common knowledge he lies to the media.

What I want to see, is a solution for when Lennon is out.

IMO GDS was that solution, so he better have something up his sleeve otherwise I will have to change the sig I wrote before pre season.

 

[Stoof]

As Dan says, just over a year ago (like a year and a week) Tottenham Hotspur Football Club were, by place in the table, the worst team in the Premiership.

We're 4th. And 3 points away from safety. :wink:

 

[gibbs131]

This!! :clap:

I am getting so wound up at the moment, with all of the negativity surrounding our last few results. Seriously.

People, the results lately have not been fantastic, but we are 4th in the league still. 4th!! In the matches that we have played, where the results have not been great, bar Liverpool, because I think we could have played better, but Hull, came across a keeper having a freakishly great game, created loads, could Gio have created more, I don't know. Leeds, could have, should have been 3 -0, at least up at half time, would Gio have done any better. But at least Harry saw he needed to change and put Pav on. Even at Liverpool, where we could have played better, we still had bad decisions, which could have got us 1 or maybe even 3 points!!

The point I am trying to make is, that yes we are without Lennon, yes maybe "Gio, the Wonder Boy" could have won those games for us, but we created the chance to win those games anyway, with Niko and Luka in the side.

So before giving all of this unwarranted stick to Harry, think about what he and the coaches miight see in training, think about where we are in the league and the fact that we are still in the FA cup, and tell me, would you have taken this at the start of the season, cause I know I would.

So lets just get behind the Team that Harry picks, and get behind Harry too, and maybe judge him at the end of the season.

The teams around us dropped so many points, there could be serious daylight between us and them.

People are COMPLAINING because Harrys is as much to blame for recent results as the players due to his recent tinkering.

The whole period smacks of a classic Spurs false dawn in the making. Which is why people are more than justified to complain about recent events and the logic behind them.

I watched about 5 full games with Gio in it on his loan period. What a fkn waste of my time.

 

[mattyspurs]

It is common knowledge he lies to the media.

What I want to see, is a solution for when Lennon is out.

IMO GDS was that solution, so he better have something up his sleeve otherwise I will have to change the sig I wrote before pre season.

We have had a solution in the last few games, we have created plenty of chances against Hull, Liverpool and Leeds, but we failed to take these chances. That is the stikers fault, not the fault of Lennon being out.

Yes I agree we are not perfect, but all of these games have been perfectly winnable, but the strikers did not take the chances. What would "GDS, the wonder boy" have done differently??

 

[Hoowl]

It is common knowledge he lies to the media.

What I want to see, is a solution for when Lennon is out.

IMO GDS was that solution, so he better have something up his sleeve otherwise I will have to change the sig I wrote before pre season.

Isn't GDS a spice boy?

 

[PYiddy]

but thats really my point mate...

DONT BIG THEM UP!!!....& then give em f*ck all minutes...

if they arent doing it in training, tell em!...tell us ffs...

but he just says they are brilliant & then doesnt give em a chance..

it makes him look like a) a liar & b) a bad man manager

If someone is not trying, training badly not fancied by the manager etc, surely telling the world will stop other clubs either wanting to buy them, or us achieving a good price?

keep it all in the dressing room, thats what all the good teams do. Its much worse for a manager to come out and slate individuals (which harry has done on occasion, and he shouldn't have)

 

[gibbs131]

As Dan says, just over a year ago (like a year and a week) Tottenham Hotspur Football Club were, by place in the table, the worst team in the Premiership.

We're 4th. And 3 points away from safety. :wink:

All it took was RECORD signing$$$$$$$$$$$ in the Jan period.

Harry has done well, but has he got into comfort mode? I know Jol did when no one could say anything wrong about him, until it was too late.

 

[gibbs131]

Isn't GDS a spice boy?

No. Unless he is just out of shot of the dozens of pics of Crouch, JJ, Keano, Lennon, Woodgate etc when they are on their tattoo sessions, red carpet events, golf trips and other "friends forever" what a great time we are having jaunts.

Spice boys were a close knit bunch of players from Liverpool whos social freindship/interaction effected their club form due to them taking one eye off Saturday at 3pm and both eyes on what a great time they are having off the pitch.

 

[mil1lion]

No. Unless he is just out of shot of the dozens of pics of Crouch, JJ, Keano, Lennon, Woodgate etc when they are on their tattoo sessions, red carpet events, golf trips and other "friends forever" what a great time we are having jaunts.

Spice boys were a close knit bunch of players from Liverpool whos social freindship/interaction effected their club form due to them taking one eye off Saturday at 3pm and both eyes on what a great time they are having off the pitch.

Is that not the everyday life of a Premier League footballer then?

 

[stemark44]

Attractive football? I must have been missing that the past few months.

Ask your guide dog then.:duh:

 

[talkshowhost86]

No. Unless he is just out of shot of the dozens of pics of Crouch, JJ, Keano, Lennon, Woodgate etc when they are on their tattoo sessions, red carpet events, golf trips and other "friends forever" what a great time we are having jaunts.

Spice boys were a close knit bunch of players from Liverpool whos social freindship/interaction effected their club form due to them taking one eye off Saturday at 3pm and both eyes on what a great time they are having off the pitch.

Seriously do you think GDS would have made a difference in our last three games? I admit that we haven't coped well without the width that Lennon gives us but Gio isn't even a winger. Plus it's obvious he's not impressing in training so why would he be any different in a Premier League match?

Also I like how GDS isn't a 'spice boy' for now because it suits your argument here despite the very public photos of him getting trolleyed.

 

[scat1620]

The key point, and one which the "look where Harry got us at the moment" and "wait to see if things get worse before daring to question him" brigade would do well to contemplate is whether many people want to wait till things get worse when things could and can be much better already. Perhaps some people prefer to voice their concerns now before the early progress grinds down to a disappointing stagnation due to some glaring management issues and dubious selection policy?

They may be wrong and the team may yet achieve the top 4 target in the season where the 4th place is much more achievable and much wider open than it has been since 2005-06 season and may be for many seasons to come. But there is a growing concern that we are preventing ourselves from the next step in progress by the old fashioned predictability and lack of fresh/alternative options.

You misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Harry should be above criticism. I'm not even saying that people shouldn't point out the things he gets wrong until we have a Ramos-like prolongued slump. It's the tone of hysteria when bringing up valid but not life-changing criticisms that I have a problem with. Adiepf's opening post should be laying off the salty foods in future, such was the sky high blood pressure shreiking tone of it. And it was a valid point. But what I am trying to say is that if we can throw this kind of panicked hyperbole at a manager who has so far been unarguably good in
overall terms for us, what do we have left in the tank for when things really are up the creek? What happens when we next have a Gross or a Ramos era: people burning effigies of them at the stake etc?

I'm just looking for measured discussion about Spurs with fellow Spurs fans, and many SCers contribute to just such discussions which I very much enjoy reading and joining in with. I just wish there was a little less hysteria to plough through on the way there.

 

[Beni]

Seriously do you think GDS would have made a difference in our last three games? I admit that we haven't coped well without the width that Lennon gives us but Gio isn't even a winger. Plus it's obvious he's not impressing in training so why would he be any different in a Premier League match?

Also I like how GDS isn't a 'spice boy' for now because it suits your argument here despite the very public photos of him getting trolleyed.

What you mean this one as an example:-

 

[Dr Know]

Seriously do you think GDS would have made a difference in our last three games? I admit that we haven't coped well without the width that Lennon gives us but Gio isn't even a winger. Plus it's obvious he's not impressing in training so why would he be any different in a Premier League match?

Also I like how GDS isn't a 'spice boy' for now because it suits your argument here despite the very public photos of him getting trolleyed.

Sorry but how is that obvious? I know as individuals we look at things differently but that is not obvious to me, so maybe you could enlighten me?
Thanks

 

[gibbs131]

We have had a solution in the last few games, we have created plenty of chances against Hull, Liverpool and Leeds, but we failed to take these chances. That is the stikers fault, not the fault of Lennon being out.

Yes I agree we are not perfect, but all of these games have been perfectly winnable, but the strikers did not take the chances. What would "GDS, the wonder boy" have done differently??

Modrics woefully weak shots on goal (not everything dropped to strikers) is an obvious answer when you compare GDS scoring screamers on his last jaunt on loan.

 

[gibbs131]

Is that not the everyday life of a Premier League footballer then?

If you count kicking your dad in the face, crashing cars, being in jail, wag almost losing a leg, defoe in court again, banned Xmas party golf trip, rap stars singing at your parties, MC Robot pisspants etc etc that all happened practically within a year then obviously no.

 

[gibbs131]

What you mean this one as an example:-

You think being a Spice boy is about being drunk?

He is not part of the gang. This is him after the clubs Xmas party. Which are now banned, because ole Gibbsy told you this type of thing happened too often.

 

[Beni]

You think being a Spice boy is about being drunk?

He is not part of the gang. This is him after the clubs Xmas party. Which are now banned, because ole Gibbsy told you this type of thing happened too often.

So, because he hasn't been pictured with the others, doesn't mean he doesn't do what all the other players, and majority of footballers do?

Xmas party was banned, yet still, they all had one. I'm sure it was a one off with him then on Xmas, where he was heavily influenced by the others, the 'Spice Boys'.

 

[joey55]

All it took was RECORD signing$$$$$$$$$$$ in the Jan period.

Harry has done well, but has he got into comfort mode? I know Jol did when no one could say anything wrong about him, until it was too late.

Harry is not in comfort mode. It takes time to imporve things. Our fans expect continuous improvement at a ridiculous pace and when this doesn't happen they start questioning the smallest of issue's and blowing them out of all proportion. It's like they've learned nothing from the Jol situation. He was never in a comfort mode either. It's been proven beyond all possible doubt that he wasn't the reason for our problems. Yet at the time some of our idiot fans came up with absurd criticisms such as him having favourites, much like they are doing with Harry now. They thought that by removing Jol and the things he did they didn't like, we'd move forward, yet nearly 3 years later and many millions more spent in the transfer market, we'd probably all be more than satisfied with a 5th place finish. You can pick negatives in any manager in the world and if you focus too much on them you'll lose sight of the fact that often the postives far outweigh the negatives. This is what happened with Jol and we nearly paid the ultimate price of relegation for it. We shouldn't let the same happen with Harry.