Has possession football reduced Spurs' attacking threat?
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Danners9
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LOL. Losing Bale reduced the attacking threat, needing to keep the ball and work as a team instead of giving to wonderboyo to smash one in from anywhere on the pitch doesn't happen anymore.
4-0 vs QPR, 65% possession. So, er, no, not really obvious that possession football and a lack of attacking threat are strongly linked.
4-0 vs QPR, 65% possession. So, er, no, not really obvious that possession football and a lack of attacking threat are strongly linked.
we can still attack at pace and whilst still playing possession football .....the key is moving the ball fast when you have it....and making the right pass.
So far the squad has showed signs they understand Pochs way / style....but with more time we WILL be even better at it.
So far the squad has showed signs they understand Pochs way / style....but with more time we WILL be even better at it.
0-3 vs Liverpool 60% possession...
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didn't see the game so can't really comment, but both games aren't enough to make a judgement either way about whether possession football has reduced the attacking threat.
Chelsea were happy to win games by narrow margins and control the game, as long as they win. This is more of a December/January article than one for 3 games into the new season with a new manager. Most people can write off last season as a chaotic disaster.
guiltyparty
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Tis the problem innit? Everyone thinks they can frickin do it nowadays, and has the means to
Like me going into a garage with a spanner and pretending I'm a mechanic. "Don't worry, I've seen it done"
The op-ed is the quickest, laziest, cheapest form of modern clickbait journalism. News does little traffic, and researched follow up features are time consuming, so in the middle they sit
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The problem with this article just eptomises how people think and argue about football these days, it argues in extremes and doesn't allow for any middle ground thinking whatsoever. Possession football doesn't win you games nor does it lose you games however it totally depends on your opponent and how they're set up.
Agree.
by the way, you weren't the mechanic working on my car at the weekend were you?
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Imo yes it has. Of course you need to keep possession and can't attack if you haven't got the ball and yes the opposition can't score if you have the ball.
This last point is where the problem lies for me because its negative and focuses purely on not losing rather than trying to win.
I said under Avb it was like watching England play and it was. Ffs dont try anything you might lose the ball.
I feel watching spurs last season (and against Liverpool. Not so much Pochs other games) that we'd forgotten that the aim of the game is to try and win, not try not to lose.
It can also be counter productive because players take the easy option with every pass and you invariably end up going sideways then backwards until you're on the edge of your own goal area, congested to buggery and either then lose possession in a dangerous area or end up hoofing it and losing possession anyway.
Under Harry we played to win. We attacked at such pace that teams were shit scared to come out of their own half (Man U at home) which resulted in us having most of the possession, the same as Liverpool now.
I'm optimistic we will not play slow boring shit under Poch. I think it may take a while to drum it out of them and get them playing but it'll be better than it was even if we no longer have the same quality we had.
Check me out being optimistic lol.
This last point is where the problem lies for me because its negative and focuses purely on not losing rather than trying to win.
I said under Avb it was like watching England play and it was. Ffs dont try anything you might lose the ball.
I feel watching spurs last season (and against Liverpool. Not so much Pochs other games) that we'd forgotten that the aim of the game is to try and win, not try not to lose.
It can also be counter productive because players take the easy option with every pass and you invariably end up going sideways then backwards until you're on the edge of your own goal area, congested to buggery and either then lose possession in a dangerous area or end up hoofing it and losing possession anyway.
Under Harry we played to win. We attacked at such pace that teams were shit scared to come out of their own half (Man U at home) which resulted in us having most of the possession, the same as Liverpool now.
I'm optimistic we will not play slow boring shit under Poch. I think it may take a while to drum it out of them and get them playing but it'll be better than it was even if we no longer have the same quality we had.
Check me out being optimistic lol.
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Another issue with online "journalism" in general: writers instructed to pick a side and take it to the extreme, as extremist views prompt strong positive or negative response, and increase clicks/interaction. There isn't much space for balance, as people en masse don't have the attention span for nuance, so most pieces are headline first, then an article written to try and justify it. Balls, basically
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I like possession football...
when we have at least a 2 goal lead.
Then they are entitled to continually knock it sideways and see the game out.
when we have at least a 2 goal lead.
Then they are entitled to continually knock it sideways and see the game out.
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We take way too long moving from defence to attack and back to defence again. Every time against Liverpool we tried to attack it took so long that they had 8 men behind the ball. When they attacked we were all over the place and they looked like scoring.
Best description of the role of Adrian Durham ever!!
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The problem is that far too many teams now that play this way simply don't have the tools to play it at its best, and managers who are tactically not quite there and so don't understand how it is most effective.
For me you should be constantly probing for the gap and the ball should be in the oppositions half, and no deeper than the border of the middle third and the oppositions defensive third. Too many teams that cannot pass and especially move though to keep creating outlets for the ball and so its get knocked around the centre backs.
Further more, when a gap is spotted the team should be able to go through the gears and suddenly go very direct. Two-three passes and an effort on goal (and hopefully into the back of the net). The majority of teams though cannot spot the opportunities and gaps and get caught playing one paced, blunt football.
For me you should be constantly probing for the gap and the ball should be in the oppositions half, and no deeper than the border of the middle third and the oppositions defensive third. Too many teams that cannot pass and especially move though to keep creating outlets for the ball and so its get knocked around the centre backs.
Further more, when a gap is spotted the team should be able to go through the gears and suddenly go very direct. Two-three passes and an effort on goal (and hopefully into the back of the net). The majority of teams though cannot spot the opportunities and gaps and get caught playing one paced, blunt football.
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Wasn't it also something ridiculous like Liverpool had 17 shots and we had 7 despite having that possession?
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Each to their own. Boring and less successful is an "interesting" preference.
The gist of the main article is obvious to anyone watching Spurs in the last few years. We slowed it all down, and have been barely worth watching and less successful as a result. Hopefully Poch will turn it around.
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How anyone can say that with a straight face is beyond me.Kiedis said:
That gritty points harvesting machine was called Bale. Nothing else. You don't win games having 7 shots per game.
You must be on crack if you prefered that season over our 2 top four finishes and CL season.
It was shit boring with nothing to show for it.
I'll bet my left nut you don't go to many games and actually watch that shit. Easy to stomach 5min on MOTD.
Damn. I bit.
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