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Did you see Lennon last night? Wonderful!!
Hate to be negative but David Bentley???
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Did you see Lennon last night? Wonderful!!
Michey
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As you say...he should obviously have played him in the right.
Switch Lennon to the left, he's better in that position than Bentley anyway.
Penny has dropped with David Bentley, says Harry
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Published Date: 18 January 2009
Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp says he thinks the penny has dropped with David Bentley.
The England winger has struggled to find a place in Redknapp's starting line-up in recent weeks.
But Redknapp was positive about Bentley's impact when he was brought on as a substitute in the 1-1 draw with Portsmouth.
"I spoke to him last week and told him what I expect from him and what makes him a player," Redknapp said.
"He went out and did that.
"That was the David Bentley I knew at Blackburn and Arsenal as a kid - not the David Bentley I've seen here too much.
"I think the penny has dropped and we'll see a different David Bentley from now on."
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Published Date: 18 January 2009
Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp says he thinks the penny has dropped with David Bentley.
The England winger has struggled to find a place in Redknapp's starting line-up in recent weeks.
But Redknapp was positive about Bentley's impact when he was brought on as a substitute in the 1-1 draw with Portsmouth.
"I spoke to him last week and told him what I expect from him and what makes him a player," Redknapp said.
"He went out and did that.
"That was the David Bentley I knew at Blackburn and Arsenal as a kid - not the David Bentley I've seen here too much.
"I think the penny has dropped and we'll see a different David Bentley from now on."
No he wasn't. How many times do you remember him actually getting to the byline? Because I remember one.
WhiteStripe
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You are having a laugh...did you actually watch the game Lennon was fantastic in the first half, and although he faded slightly in the second, still made a worthwhile contribution. He was a contender for man of the match. With regards to getting to the byline, well I remember a few different occasions where he did, and overlapped well with Corluka, however yesterday, lennon was back to his best in terms of running at opponents, which is the most productive part of his game.
Just a few commentry notes on him....
Aaron Lennon cuts in from the right and makes space for the shot but his effort is easily collected by David James. Portsmouth don't look too convincing in defence.
Aaron Lennon forces David James into his best save yet.
Lennon's cross from the right is headed behind for a Tottenham corner by Johnson.then Roman Pavlyuchenko's shot is blocked by... Jermain Defoe.
It's 'good David James' today. So far anyway. Aaron Lennon does brilliantly to beat his man on the right and produces a lovely cross for Jermain Defoe but his header is tipped over by the Pompey keeper.
Lennon's super lofted cross from the right is met by a header from Defoe on the edge of the Portsmouth six-yard box. James does really well to turn the ball over the bar and Tottenham have another corner.
Lennon cuts in from the right flank and sees his effort saved with ease in the centre of his goal by James.
Lennon's low cross from the right is scrambled clear of danger by Campbell as Bent looks to strike. Tottenham are on top at the start of this half.
Lennon's low cross from the right is deflected towards the Portsmouth goal. James does superbly to change his direction and keep the ball away from danger.
He cut in because he couldn't beat his full-back!
Was never going in though, was it? Not in a million years.
HE CROSSED IT TO A DEFENDER OH WOW.
You've got the same event covered twice here.
See earlier comment about him cutting in.
Probably failed to beat his man again.
Sorry, that was the shittest cross ever. Quick feet got him away from one defender then he just hit his cross into the next defender. What a load of bollocks.
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WhiteStripe
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I don't disagree with a lot of what you said, I will say however that Lennon beat his man a number of times last night. He also overlapped well with Corluka at times.
He was playing with a lot more freedom and was creating a lot of space in other areas of the pitch by attracting more than one defender. We just didn't exploit this space in the first half enough.
I think that if we can play Bentley for 90 mins against Burnley at right wing, and get a good performance out of him, then we will be in the envious position of having 2 players, full of confidence vying for the one spot. Both of which bring different elements to the position.
I do think lennon is also effective on the left, and for me, would give him a go here as he seems to be more comfortable at shooting this season than last, thus allowing him to cut in and shoot with his right foot.
Basically, i just hope we can get them both playing well and fighting for a place in the team, but I still think lennon had an excellent game last night!! :up:
No, I said I was leaving.
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I think I completely forgot to rate Bentley in the ratings thread. But I have to give him some credit, he came on and looked lively, focused and positive.
The trouble is, for me, neither he nor Lennon ever seem to be comfortable on the left. And lets be honest, neither have exactly created anywhere near enough on the right either. Lennon has been more involved this season than any other season but still has only 2 actual assists to his name, the same as Bentley (and you can balance out the fact that Bentley's played more minutes with the fact that Bentley has played quite a few at LM).
In fact, I looked at their stats for this post for the first time this season and it makes surprising reading:
------------------------------Lenon--------------Bentley
Goals--------------------------1-----------------1
Assists------------------------2-----------------2
Attempts created---------------27---------------33
Attempted passes--------------423--------------662
Successful passes--------------309--------------479
Success %---------------------73%--------------72%
Tackles won--------------------24----------------13
I have been a staunch critic of Bentley, but to be fair, for all Lennon's huff and puff, Bentley's stats do compare pretty favourably.
Although it has to be pointed out that Lennon's 24 tackles probably means he's edging it for me. A wide midfielder must work for the team to, it's vital. In those 24 tackles could be a couple that stop goals eventually. But had Bentley had a long run on the RM would his stats look even better ???
Another factor for both these fella's is how much better their stats would look if they had better options to aim at when crossing. The midfield don;t flood the box like other teams do, and we have not had Pav around to aim at all that much in the league, and even then don't ever play with 2 big target guys like Santa Cruz/ Mccarthy etc.
You have to say that alot of the time our wingers don't have alot to aim at. Doesn't excuse alot of the poor quality of crosses I've seen but it doesn't help.
The trouble is, for me, neither he nor Lennon ever seem to be comfortable on the left. And lets be honest, neither have exactly created anywhere near enough on the right either. Lennon has been more involved this season than any other season but still has only 2 actual assists to his name, the same as Bentley (and you can balance out the fact that Bentley's played more minutes with the fact that Bentley has played quite a few at LM).
In fact, I looked at their stats for this post for the first time this season and it makes surprising reading:
------------------------------Lenon--------------Bentley
Goals--------------------------1-----------------1
Assists------------------------2-----------------2
Attempts created---------------27---------------33
Attempted passes--------------423--------------662
Successful passes--------------309--------------479
Success %---------------------73%--------------72%
Tackles won--------------------24----------------13
I have been a staunch critic of Bentley, but to be fair, for all Lennon's huff and puff, Bentley's stats do compare pretty favourably.
Although it has to be pointed out that Lennon's 24 tackles probably means he's edging it for me. A wide midfielder must work for the team to, it's vital. In those 24 tackles could be a couple that stop goals eventually. But had Bentley had a long run on the RM would his stats look even better ???
Another factor for both these fella's is how much better their stats would look if they had better options to aim at when crossing. The midfield don;t flood the box like other teams do, and we have not had Pav around to aim at all that much in the league, and even then don't ever play with 2 big target guys like Santa Cruz/ Mccarthy etc.
You have to say that alot of the time our wingers don't have alot to aim at. Doesn't excuse alot of the poor quality of crosses I've seen but it doesn't help.
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Lennon also has a good few assists in the cups and you have to say that his running at the defense takes the pressure off and puts the opposition under more pressure. Whereas a lot of Bentley's work and passes, whether successful or not, are played with the defense in front of him and at a much slower rate.
Neither has been helped by different strikers in the middle who may be misfiring and a lack of midfielders bursting into the box a la Lampard or Poyet. Lennon did all he could against Newcastle but Campbell kept missing the ball, would this constitute an attempt created in your stats? As the stats showed Bentley has done ok and there was the Blackburn or Bolton game where he created three or four which should have been goals but his general play was been poor, his set pieces awful and he has only scored two goals. He was signed surely to provide what Lennon does not but the best he has done is more or less equal him in quantitative terms.
Neither has been helped by different strikers in the middle who may be misfiring and a lack of midfielders bursting into the box a la Lampard or Poyet. Lennon did all he could against Newcastle but Campbell kept missing the ball, would this constitute an attempt created in your stats? As the stats showed Bentley has done ok and there was the Blackburn or Bolton game where he created three or four which should have been goals but his general play was been poor, his set pieces awful and he has only scored two goals. He was signed surely to provide what Lennon does not but the best he has done is more or less equal him in quantitative terms.
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Hey, you'll get no argument from me about the dispapointing form of Bentley. Not just his end product but his work rate, set pieces and decision making. But I didn't want to sign him - certainly not for 15m - in the first place. I understood the logic to a degree but I would have preferred us to go after Pennant for 5/6m - or as part of the Keane deal, and said so at the time.
I fuly appreciate they are very bare stats that by no means tell a "wingers" story. I was more using them to highlight the fact that for all his effervesance (yes, CB I may have spelt that wrong) Lennon has actually not assisted any more goals than Bentley.
That's not to say I don't like Lennon either. I do. I like what he brings when he's on his game, but I also think that having Bentley here has coincided with an upped work rate from Lennon. he knows if he fucks about that bentley's straight in.
We only really have Pav who like to attack a cross, as even our midfield is poor at this. I'm hoping that the arrival of Palacios might free up Jenas to be a bit more attacking - only having watched Pompey under Redknapp I have my doubts.
I fuly appreciate they are very bare stats that by no means tell a "wingers" story. I was more using them to highlight the fact that for all his effervesance (yes, CB I may have spelt that wrong) Lennon has actually not assisted any more goals than Bentley.
That's not to say I don't like Lennon either. I do. I like what he brings when he's on his game, but I also think that having Bentley here has coincided with an upped work rate from Lennon. he knows if he fucks about that bentley's straight in.
We only really have Pav who like to attack a cross, as even our midfield is poor at this. I'm hoping that the arrival of Palacios might free up Jenas to be a bit more attacking - only having watched Pompey under Redknapp I have my doubts.
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