Hey Big Spenders

[Ricky_Yid]

Just thinkin with this Chelsea caper can we become one of the big spenders and stop bigger teams blowing us out of the water on player purchases? (obviously i realise this wasnt just a money situation and footballing reasons on his part have to be taken into account)

I dont think theres really any doubt that if you want to be a top club challanging for honours consistantly that you have to spend big and buy top players..

Do you think that is a stage we can get to without the billionaire take over or can continued success including trophies and champions league and our new bigger stadium get us there?

I'm not giving off about the current setup but really i think thats what has to happen to take us to the next level..

 

[Metalhead]

Just thinkin with this Chelsea caper can we become one of the big spenders and stop bigger teams blowing us out of the water on player purchases? (obviously i realise this wasnt just a money situation and footballing reasons on his part have to be taken into account)

I dont think theres really any doubt that if you want to be a top club challanging for honours consistantly that you have to spend big and buy top players..

Do you think that is a stage we can get to without the billionaire take over or can continued success including trophies and champions league and our new bigger stadium get us there?

I'm not giving off about the current setup but really i think thats what has to happen to take us to the next level..

In all honesty, i see nothing changing as regards our spending policy. Levy won't suddenly loosen the purse strings.

 

[tiger666]

This will just become another Levy is a **** / Levy isn't a **** thread

 

[Ricky_Yid]

This will just become another Levy is a **** / Levy isn't a **** thread

I dont think thats the Issue, Financially we are very well off compared to a lot of clubs which is in part down to him but also at times i think we've had the chance to spend bigger and cement our place as champions league regulars and didnt, swings and roundabouts but in general, we're a better club than when he took over.
Can we or how do we get to that next level of spending?

 

[tiger666]

I dont think thats the Issue,

It isn't. but that's how the thread will go.

 

[SandroClegane]

I dont think theres really any doubt that if you want to be a top club challanging for honours consistantly that you have to spend big and buy top players..

Yep, this strategy always works and definitely hasn't backfired ever...

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[Metalhead]

Yep, this strategy always works and definitely hasn't backfired ever...

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[Ricky_Yid]

Yep, this strategy always works and definitely hasn't backfired ever...

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Youre both quite right, how stupid of me..

Big clubs dont spend big money on and pay big wages to top players..

 

[Metalhead]

Youre both quite right, how stupid of me..

Big clubs dont spend big money on and pay big wages to top players..

They absolutely do but i just can't picture Levy suddenly throwing caution to the wind.

 

[monkeynick]

Can we just clarify if Levy is or isn't a c*** please, it's my bath night

 

[SandroClegane]

Youre both quite right, how stupid of me..

Big clubs dont spend big money on and pay big wages to top players..

They do, but the most successful clubs spend smartly with a plan in mind. They don't just throw money at players and hope it works. Breaking our wage structure and record signing numbers for players that aren't the finished product is dangerous for a team like ours.

Especially when we've seen success signing promising talents for lesser fees, building them into better players, and then rewarding them with wage increases under Poch.

 

[StartingPrice]

I don't care how much or how little we spend, I care that we sign good players. That is the limit of my interest. Alli and Dier were hardly wallet-busters, but they were damned good buys. Eriksen was mid-range, Lamela pretty expensive - they contributed to one of the most potent attacks in the BPL. I'm equally fine with not having to spend anything when a youth player is good enough to avoid having to buy someone. The stadium may allow us to spend more, but the long-term plan always has been about producing our own players and buying in quality youth to fill perceived gaps. Don't think that will change. Don't think we will start splashing around Bale-type transfer fees just for the sake of it, especially if the model we are following is still producing improvements in the squad. But if Mr Levy decides to start spending cash like that, because he can, and the players he signs are good players it's all good with me.

What, I believe is of more interest, is the wages. We don't have a wage structure or a wage limit. We have a policy of keeping wages within a set percentage of revenues generated. As revenues goes up, the percentage stays the same but the pot for paying wages gets bigger - so wages go up. I believe this, too, was always part of the plan. That is, to arrive at a place where we are reasonably competitive, in terms of wages, with our rivals, due to revenues being large enough to cover is without breaking policy, so our players are less likely to be tempted away (irrelevant of how they were acquired or at what price).

 

[guiltyparty]

Why would anyone, as we start building a new stadium, think now is the time we "loosen the purse strings"?

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

2 steps forward. 1 step back.

Seems to be business model. Make some progress on the pitch, don't invest, fall back slightly, few years later have a little more success, rinse, repeat, throw in manager turnoverfor flavour.

It makes us grumpy everytime we have the 1 step back but with the 2 steps forward we are considerably better off now than we were 10 years ago.
20 years ago we were a joke.

 

[Ricky_Yid]

I Remember the bad times alright, we really have come so far.. We shouldnt abandon whats gotten us this far but what gets us to that next level of spending.. will the new stadium do it?

 

[Japhet]

They do, but the most successful clubs spend smartly with a plan in mind. They don't just throw money at players and hope it works. Breaking our wage structure and record signing numbers for players that aren't the finished product is dangerous for a team like ours.

Especially when we've seen success signing promising talents for lesser fees, building them into better players, and then rewarding them with wage increases under Poch.

IMO Man City's return for the money they have spent has been nothing short of pitiful. Last years 250m spend at Utd resulted in a shambolic season. Chelsea could easily have another embarrassing season. Overall, I think the wheels are getting very wobbly on the whole Sugar Daddy phenomenon. They aren't feared like they were 5 years ago.

 

[SandroClegane]

IMO Man City's return for the money they have spent has been nothing short of pitiful. Last years 250m spend at Utd resulted in a shambolic season. Chelsea could easily have another embarrassing season. Overall, I think the wheels are getting very wobbly on the whole Sugar Daddy phenomenon. They aren't feared like they were 5 years ago.

Exactly. I'd rather us keep doing what we're doing. Smart, financially-viable buys with other players coming up through the academy. Look at the money Newcastle has spent over the past 3 years, and they got relegated!

Spending does not equal success. Young, hungry players that understand what it means to play for a club like Tottenham Hotspur is what we need.

 

[Lighty64]

I dont think thats the Issue, Financially we are very well off compared to a lot of clubs which is in part down to him but also at times i think we've had the chance to spend bigger and cement our place as champions league regulars and didnt, swings and roundabouts but in general, we're a better club than when he took over.
Can we or how do we get to that next level of spending?

the only way to get to the next level of spending is to be taken over by an Ambramovic on Shiek Monsour. both Chelsea and City can afford to spend big and if they flop it won't hurt them. even once the stadium is paid for, the only thing we would be able to offer is higher wages, better players, but just not 1's that are at the top of the tree.

 

[Japhet]

the only way to get to the next level of spending is to be taken over by an Ambramovic on Shiek Monsour. both Chelsea and City can afford to spend big and if they flop it won't hurt them. even once the stadium is paid for, the only thing we would be able to offer is higher wages, better players, but just not 1's that are at the top of the tree.

I also think we're doing well identifying players with a strong mentality and team ethic instead of just the ones with the flashy skill set like Balotelli and Robinho.

 

[DJS]

I find far more enjoyment seeing the likes of Dier, Ali, Walker and Rose doing well. A real sense of achievement unearthing a gem without having to splash high transfer fee / big wages to entice the more mercenary player (like dare I say it Man City have been doing in recent times and Chelski before them).

Plus not to mention Kane coming through our youth set up, which is just pure sex wee everywhere.

And we got Wanyama for a decent fee also so just need a forward now as an absolute must.