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Hoddle for Tottenham Manager

Wheeler Dealer

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I'd certainly settle for a manager that was smart tactically and who did the absolute minimum in front of a microphone.
It would make a refreshing change.

Are you saying that our current incumbant is not tactically smart....how dare you and where did you get that impression from!
 

Adam456

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Those 'idiotic' comments are surrounding beliefs held by a large percentage of the world's population (Karma)

He was asked if he believed in Karma, and when he said yes was given the most divisive of scenarios and asked whether he still believed it was valid in that instance. Of course after saying that he believed in Karma, he is hardly going to then baulk at the first challenge to his 'belief'

Glenn Hoddle Believes in Karma wouldn't have made a great headline though...

The press sat on that Interview for something like 2 years, until they decided the time was right to remove him.

Hmm well people tend to be utterly 'selective' when they come to their list of detailed beliefs. The idea that bad people will be punished for bad behaviour in another life in some abstract and unexplained way is absolutely fine (and to some extent comforting) because it is completely abstract.

But the idea that somebody they know who is a bad will be tortured very slowly to death in their next life might not make that list. And certainly the idea that a disabled person (or, worse, child) with a terribly hard life did anything to deserve it, rather than being the unwitting victim of genetics and probability, is abhorrent.

The majority of the people who believe in deities, karma, after-life, ghosts, fairies etc. clearly don't (because it doesn't occur to them), can't (because they are too dim) or won't (because they are too scared that their house of cards will fall) think things through properly.

If the guy believed in Karma and such scenarios didn't occur to him (and wouldn't come up in an interview) then was either recklessly stupid, incapably stupid or refused to entertain the idea that he could ever be wrong

So yeah I'd say 'idiotic' was a fair description



PS. FYI - Hoddle was my favourite player throughout his career and second only to Gazza of all time so I have no axe to grind. Just telling it how I see it
 

adamthfc

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Our people really saying scholes was a better player than gazza really? In 98 yes i can give you that but as a footballer really? Im just amazed anyone could believe that.
 

VegasII

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Scholes never said 'Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee' on live television. Gazza did. Scholes never dived inside a giant chocolate easter egg on Football Italia with James Richardson. Gazza did.

Case solved.
 

SpurSince57

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Those 'idiotic' comments are surrounding beliefs held by a large percentage of the world's population (Karma)

He was asked if he believed in Karma, and when he said yes was given the most divisive of scenarios and asked whether he still believed it was valid in that instance. Of course after saying that he believed in Karma, he is hardly going to then baulk at the first challenge to his 'belief'

Glenn Hoddle Believes in Karma wouldn't have made a great headline though...

The press sat on that Interview for something like 2 years, until they decided the time was right to remove him.

Oh please

Do you really think Glenn had spent years studying Hindu, Jain or Buddhist theology? His notions about karma were half-baked bollocks that he lumped in with Christianity and Eileen fucking Drewery. Sure, the press were total ****s, but we're not too far short of David Icke territory here.
 

theShiznit

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Did i say (anywhere?) that he did...

He probably read a book or two where they highlight the positive aspects of these things for 'self-improvement'.

But if he has just stated to someone that that is his belief, then (as i said) he is hardly going to just step away from something he has just said is his belief at the first sight of a tough question (RE disabled people being punished for a former life)

You can pick over any religion (as lets face it they're all shit) and make any followers of them looked like half baked hicks, I for one am not arrogant enough to proclaim myself athiest, but on the other hand if someone can use their beliefs to give them strength or purpose to live their life then good on them.

I have not heard much of Glenda's Spiritual path of late, but to lump him in with the second coming that is Ike is a bit off...
 

Bus-Conductor

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I rarely agree with SS57 or Damian99, let alone in the same thread but as far as Hoddle goes, it was a wanky thing that Matt Dickinson did and gutless of the FA to sack him, but it really isn't the brightest thing to spout your crackpot karma theology to journalist with an axe to grind and a tape recorder running.

And the best Scholes wasn't in the best Gaza's league. But they were different players. Gaza was the closest England have come to producing a Maradona type footballer. He was a dribbler. Sure by the end of Gaza's career you'd probably take Scholes because at least his mental faculties remained in situ.

It's weird but we are probably talking about the two most naturally gifted footballer England has produced in the last 50 years (Hoddle & Gascoigne). One was only a slice short of a loaf, the other was most of the loaf short.
 

dannythomas

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Does beg the question, if not Hoddle then who if and when Harry goes in 12 months. Last time I looked the popular choice here was Ancelotti but I think he has as much personality as Gerry Francis and did not do much at Chelsea considering all the money he had to play with. Seems most likely it would be a promotion from within , Sherwood being the likely choice . I say that because I just don't see many credible choices.

As for Hoddle he had as they say lost the dressing room which almost every manager we have had did at the end of their tenure. Only exception in relatively recent times was Venables who wanted to farm out management to others . England was a different story . Got to work with the cream rather than the dross and did a pretty good job
 

OmarsComing

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LOL aT PROMOTION FROM WITHIN.

We're not Blackburn Rovers or West ham. We are a top 6 club in the best league in the world. No way will Tiger Tim become our manager.
 

Adam456

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Does beg the question, if not Hoddle then who if and when Harry goes in 12 months. Last time I looked the popular choice here was Ancelotti but I think he has as much personality as Gerry Francis and did not do much at Chelsea considering all the money he had to play with. Seems most likely it would be a promotion from within , Sherwood being the likely choice . I say that because I just don't see many credible choices.

As for Hoddle he had as they say lost the dressing room which almost every manager we have had did at the end of their tenure. Only exception in relatively recent times was Venables who wanted to farm out management to others . England was a different story . Got to work with the cream rather than the dross and did a pretty good job

Well he did the double and they were looking well on course for at least the title until Abramovich sacked the players' favourite and surrogate dad Ray Wilkins for apparently no reason. The players basically went on strike for a couple of months and Wilkins signed a gagging order to ensure he got a decent payoff

How's that for undermining your manager
 

Damian99

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Further more Scholes played week in and week out with world class players, unlike what Gazza had to endure a lot of the time.

Gascoigne used to win games on his own and virtually got us(infact he did) to the 91 cup final by himself.
 

Damian99

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I am genuinely baffled that someone can believe scholes was a better player than gazza


Takes all sorts mate i suppose. Not doubting Scholes was a great player but Gazza, well he was different gravy altogether.
 
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