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Hoddle meets Kane - star admits Europe is a must

mawspurs

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Spurs legend Glenn Hoddle chats to current hero Harry Kane about the North London derby win, Europa League hopes, and working under Jose Mourinho.


Source: BT Sport
 

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Fairly standard interview but absolutely right that patience is needed. Good things take time and whilst we aren’t going to go back to those heady earlier days under Poch in terms of style, I think that Jose wouldn’t have anyone left to back him if people didn’t think that things will improve.
 

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I love this club so much but I only came to spurs in 2010 as an American because of modric bale and vdv. So how good was hoddle? Who would compare to him these days
 

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I love this club so much but I only came to spurs in 2010 as an American because of modric bale and vdv. So how good was hoddle? Who would compare to him these days
The best I ever seen play for the club. By a long, long way.


 

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The best I ever seen play for the club. By a long, long way.



This 100%.
 

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The best I ever seen play for the club. By a long, long way.




I was at that Liverpool game in 1982. Pops blagged some tickets from work in the stand to the right of where he scores. Proper Tony Soprano he was. Shame they scored 3 after to ruin it all. Got to see them parade around with the league trophy after too. Think it was the penultimate game of the season.
 

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Considering two of the best players in the world over the last 10 years have played for us (Modric and Bale) I'm not sure if Hoddle is the best by a long (long) way, but he would be up there.

Not sure who I would compare him to. That type of player seem to have disappeared a bit. Odd as many of the biggest names in football filled that kind of attacking midfield role.
 
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Considering two of the best players in the world over the last 10 years have played for us (Modric and Bale) I'm not sure if Hoddle is the best by a long (long) way, but he would be up there.

Not sure who I would compare him to. That type of player seem to have disappeared a bit. Odd as many of the biggest names in football filled that kind of attacking midfield role.

It's a difficult one, because:
- Luxury players didn't have to do as much running, tackling, thinking, marking, pressing back then
- They weren't necessarily playing against athletes
- There was less pressure and focus on them (none of the algorithmic bollocks or level of fan opinions/criticism)

However:
- They had non-athletic thugs as defenders who would kick chunks out of them with little/no sanction
- The footballs were heavy and terrible
- The pitches were terrible and unpredictable
- The coaching was exponentially worse
- They had no encouragement to be 'professional athletes'. Pint before kick off? Sure. Marlboros at half time? Why not. etc.

I think it's impossible to actually know whether Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi would have actually stood out back then (one crunching tackle can affect a player early on, of course), or whether they'd have been William Deans.
At the same time, there's no guarantee that some of the 'greats' of the 60,70's,80's or even 90's would have been any good in the modern game. You look at some of the great dribblers and they always skinning impressive looking players. Would an otherwise much-to-prove Hoddle have even made it into a Pochettino team?

It's all speculative.


What we do know is that Hoddle was quite clearly the most gifted player we've had. By all accounts he had the flair and touch of Ginola, the shooting and technique of Bale, the presence and teamwork of VDV (casual component examples) all in a time where those types of player (much like young Gazza) were one in a million.


(That being said, just imagine how many people were on that level who never made it into the game for various reasons - there's a lot more 'visibility' of talented youngsters now, which is one of the reasons why the overall number of quality players is higher now maybe)
 

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I guess this doesn't have to become a Hoddle-thread, but that description wouldn't make any sense for anyone except hardcore Spursfans.

A player like that would be considered just as good as Messi and C. Ronaldo. Ask a group of neutrals to rank the best players in the English league in the 80s and Hoddle will be on those lists, but he for most wouldn't be considered the best even in England.

No disrespect to Hoddle. Love him. And he was clearly too good for us back then. He is also clearly very well respected by fans of other teams, but to say he was by far better than the likes of Modric and Bale just isn't correct.
 
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CowInAComa

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I guess this doesn't have to become a Hoddle-thread, but that description wouldn't make any sense for anyone except hardcore Spursfans.

A player like that would be considered just as good as Messi and C. Ronaldo. Ask a group of neutrals to rank the best players in the English league in the 80s and Hoddle will be on those lists, but he for most won't be considered the best even in England.

No disrespect to Hoddle. Love him. And he was clearly too good for us back then. He is also clearly very well respected by fans of other teams, but to say he was by far better than the likes of Modric and Bale just isn't correct.

He was an amazing player and iconic for Spurs, but you are correct.

It's unfair to judge players of different eras as you can never take the rose tinted and nostalgic element away from your recollections, and you wouldn't want to.

Truth is modern teams are almost always light years better than those of the previous generations.
 
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