Hodgson’s tactics aren’t helping Harry Kane

[mawspurs]

Kane is a striker who thrives on service into the box, something that has been very much lacking thanks to the way Roy Hodgson sets up his midfield.

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[Legacy]

Kane has yet to receive a single pass inside the opposition box in either game.

 

[slartibartfast]

Only a fkin bellend would take on board the crap some of the media are spewing.
'He looks tired'
'He looks out of sorts'
Er... no he fkin doesn't.
He's getting fk all service.
Vardy should start with him.
And Alli should be behind him. The same fkin positions they play all season.
Sterling Jesus wept.
Problem imo is we've a team full of brilliant attacking players but can't defend very well, with a defensive minded manager.
I mean without being disrespectful surely to christ 4 at the back and 1 Iin the hole (thats 6 of your 11 defending including the goal keeper) is enough against... Wales?
England? Picking out of form players while in form are on the bench? Playing players out of position to squeeze them in?... Surely not lol.
Soon as we play anyone of any quality we'll lose unless Roy starts playing to our strengths.

 

[double0]

Kane has proved he can also score outside the box...but yeah I don't think England have supported him enough he's doing far to much donkey work

 

[Col_M]

I've not read the link but the problem is Sterling who offers Aaron Lennon style speed and usefulness. It's no coincidence that Engkand improved when he was removed

 

[diamondlight]

Only a fkin bellend would take on board the crap some of the media are spewing.
'He looks tired'
'He looks out of sorts'
Er... no he fkin doesn't.
He's getting fk all service.
Vardy should start with him.
And Alli should be behind him. The same fkin positions they play all season.
Sterling Jesus wept.
Problem imo is we've a team full of brilliant attacking players but can't defend very well, with a defensive minded manager.
I mean without being disrespectful surely to christ 4 at the back and 1 Iin the hole (thats 6 of your 11 defending including the goal keeper) is enough against... Wales?
England? Picking out of form players while in form are on the bench? Playing players out of position to squeeze them in?... Surely not lol.
Soon as we play anyone of any quality we'll lose unless Roy starts playing to our strengths.

I agree with this, but I'm struggling to think of a way of getting this group of players to fit together. It's like the Lampard-Gerrard problem multiplied by about 20.

442 is out of the question. We don't have any proper wingers. 4231 is more sensible but means dropping Vardy and Sturridge. They don't fit in the three; they're centre forwards. And they're too good to drop.

Arguably, the system we played in the second half against Wales was 343, with Rose and Walker as wingbacks, Dier (sort of) dropping in to a back 3, Rooney and Alli in the middle, and three centre forwards (Rashford, Sturridge and Vardy).

It seemed to work; unorthodox but maybe the way forward for this awkward and unbalanced squad.

 

[avonspurs]

TBH I don't give a f**k about the England team. Only care about Tottenham. Don't care if Kane gets slated - he was slated at beginning of the season and he rammed those words back down the throats of the naysayers.

He'll come back to us and, next season, will be hitting 15-20 goals again. And England will continue to fail on the international stage because they have an extremely poor manager.

 

[Col_M]

TBH I don't give a f**k about the England team. Only care about Tottenham. Don't care if Kane gets slated - he was slated at beginning of the season and he rammed those words back down the throats of the naysayers.

He'll come back to us and, next season, will be hitting 15-20 goals again. And England will continue to fail on the international stage because they have an extremely poor manager.

Poor old Roy, had a superb qualifying campaign. The team is almost through the first round and he still can't satisfy fans. He's done a superb job so far and has a settled back 7. His conundrum is The. Form of our strikers, he has a wealth of choice.

 

[slartibartfast]

Poor old Roy, had a superb qualifying campaign. The team is almost through the first round and he still can't satisfy fans. He's done a superb job so far and has a settled back 7. His conundrum is The. Form of our strikers, he has a wealth of choice.

My dog could have got England out of that qualifying group so hardly a ringing endorsment.
My frustration is we know what we can play like if he'd just play the right way. That Germany game is how we should be going at teams.
Rooney, though playing better than he has for a while, does slow down our play.
Sterling. How the fk he made 11 I'll never know.
Bringing on Milner (again, slows us down) when Russia are chasing a goal and leaving your super fast goal machine who just won Leicester the PL on the bench is just plain dumb.
1 striker against Wales???
And then theres your Golden boot winner taking fkin corners!!! The Russian defence must have been over the moon with that tactical genius decision.
Im frustrated because to me it just looks like the same England mistakes again.
In form players benched.
Out of form favourites in, even if out of position.
And some truly mind boggling decisions thrown in for good measure.
I'm just hoping Roy realises giving Kane absolutely no service is not Kanes fault, It's his, and playing Alli behind him with Vardy and Sturridge will make opp defences shit a brick imo. Its not like Sterling or Lallana offer much defensively anyway.

 

[yido_number1]

Poor old Roy, had a superb qualifying campaign. The team is almost through the first round and he still can't satisfy fans. He's done a superb job so far and has a settled back 7. His conundrum is The. Form of our strikers, he has a wealth of choice.

Totally agree, I think Vardy in for Sterling would solve problems. People wouldn't only be focussing on Kane and Vardy would open up some space.

Against Wales Kane was playing against a back 5 with 3 CB's
.

 

[pablo73]

Hodgson's got tactics?

 

[dontcallme]

My dog could have got England out of that qualifying group so hardly a ringing endorsment.

Credit where it's due. Your dog got Redknapp a not guilty verdict, he's a special dog.

 

[avonspurs]

Poor old Roy, had a superb qualifying campaign. The team is almost through the first round and he still can't satisfy fans. He's done a superb job so far and has a settled back 7. His conundrum is The. Form of our strikers, he has a wealth of choice.

I'm not a 'fan' of England so no need to satisfy me(!) . Aa others have said anyone couldve got England out of that qualifying group

 

[slartibartfast]

Credit where it's due. Your dog got Redknapp a not guilty verdict, he's a special dog.

Special with fleas at the minute.
It was my old lab who got Redknapp off. He died
My new dog is more into sport than legal affairs.
He puts the Cock in Cocker Spaniel. Annoying loving little shit lol.

 

[eddiev14]

Kane comes alive when he has clever footballers playing around him, players with a bit of guile and movement.

In my opinion Jamie Vardy is a red herring for this team. Cracking season at Leicester but playing in an incredibly limited way and it isn't a way that will be paricularly useful for England against defensively well organised teams.

The change that made the difference against Wales was bringing on Daniel Sturridge. He's as fragile as Wheelchair but with him, Lallana and Alli playing behind a central striker you have movement, interchanging of positions and guile.

If those three had played behind Kane against Russia we'd have smashed them, IMO.

Sterling doesn't fit in at all because of how we are using the full backs. When he plays infield he is so ineffective. He's basically an old fashioned winger.

Oh and the pundits are praising Rooney in midfield but you can already see a few moments of pressure from our (so far very weak) opposition where he's been getting sacked in dangerous positions.

Against a top team we will be overrun because of him, I guarantee it. Roy is just wedging him in because he loves him.

I feel a bit sorry for Dier because I can already see certain pundits getting ready to deflect blame away from Rooney because they're all fanboys.

I really dislike pretty much everything about the whole England setup, however proud I am that so many Spurs players are in there.

 

[slartibartfast]

Kane comes alive when he has clever footballers playing around him, players with a bit of guile and movement.

In my opinion Jamie Vardy is a red herring for this team. Cracking season at Leicester but playing in an incredibly limited way and it isn't a way that will be paricularly useful for England against defensively well organised teams.

The change that made the difference against Wales was bringing on Daniel Sturridge. He's as fragile as Wheelchair but with him, Lallana and Alli playing behind a central striker you have movement, interchanging of positions and guile.

If those three had played behind Kane against Russia we'd have smashed them, IMO.

Sterling doesn't fit in at all because of how we are using the full backs. When he plays infield he is so ineffective. He's basically an old fashioned winger.

Oh and the pundits are praising Rooney in midfield but you can already see a few moments of pressure from our (so far very weak) opposition where he's been getting sacked in dangerous positions.

Against a top team we will be overrun because of him, I guarantee it. Roy is just wedging him in because he loves him.

I feel a bit sorry for Dier because I can already see certain pundits getting ready to deflect blame away from Rooney because they're all fanboys.

I really dislike pretty much everything about the whole England setup, however proud I am that so many Spurs players are in there.

Disagree with Vardy comment but everything else is spot on.
Before a ball was kicked I was saying if Roy shoe horns Rooney next to Dier the minute we play anyone decent he'll be giving away freekicks left right and center. Been ok at the minute against crap.
Whot whill woy do next?

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Sterling and Llama to me are the problem. Play with pace and put Harry alongside Sturridge and Vardy (who actually did fuck all apart form the tap in) and Harry will flourish

For me Rooney has become a Ray Wilkins impersonator, he slows the game down and offers nothing more than crab passes. I'd sooner see Wheelchair in that position (as much as i hate to say that).

 

[Jamturk]

I disagree with the Rooney comments, he's been brilliant taking resposibility.

Harry has been poor I'm afraid, poor service yes but it takes 2 to make a good pass. Maybe his game needs good understanding and cohesion with the support players which he won't have at this level yet.

 

[mark87]

The more Harry gets slated while playing for England this summer, the more he'll be determined to prove the doubters wrong for next season for us, so its a win-win for Tottenham.

 

[chinaman]

With the shit that Hodgson is serving up, don't think England has a realistic chance of getting to the Final. As such would be better for him not to tire out Kane anymore. Let him sit out the tourney the rest of the way and go on a super vacation to recharge. Same for Alli.