I was wrong about Poch

[philip]

Harry and Timmy were total fuckwits to be honest and they thought they were better than they actually were hence why they would go in to interviews with a persona of total arrogance and that we were lucky to have them.

They were teflon and always not to blame for the problem and that was completely the squads.

Poch has done very well in terms of the first team squad and improving the players.

He also done well when questioned especially the whole kaboul, adebayor and etc fiasco.

Instead of allowing the circus to go on he has stopped and stamped down his authority which isn't at the expense of the club. It could be said Timmy did this by saying some of the first team players weren't up for it. However Timmy went all about it wrong and did it in a manner that was at the expense of the club.

IMO there are still areas of improvement and one of which is his subs, he needs to change it more often in my opinion and rest players when we are up 3-0, as it will be a long season. The big question mark will how the squad deals with a long season as last season the period we were entering now was the part were the team started to get going but were burnt out by March. There is hopes that wont happen this season but who knows.

Agree with all the above.

Do wish we'd see a little bit more squad play.

The likes of Wimmer Pritchard, Carroll, Mason, Trippier, Davies and Townsend are underused and could be brought on earlier to give others a rest.

Dier and Alderwereild are going to be key, and I would have brought on Mason for Dier and probably Trippier for Walker (who was getting wound up) at 60 minutes when we were 3 up.

 

[Tit&Ham]

Is anyone thinking Poch has 2 faces?

The media/public face:
Kind of boring, humourless, not very high self-esteem, tactics on paper not motivating vocally

The internal training-ground face:
Hands-on, very vocal - both on the ground and at taking players aside, certain of his methods not afraid to kick out those who will not follow, fluent english D), kind and caring but also tough as hell (Fergie) - a father figure.

I was not over the moon appointing him, but Last season I was sure he was taking us in the right direction. It's gone fester Than I thought though...

 

[DanielCHillier]

could someone please re-assure me that he isnt about to get offered the Real Madrid job? THAT would be very Spursy.....

Bayern would be most likely if Guardiola leaves.

 

[DanielCHillier]

Agree with all the above.

Do wish we'd see a little bit more squad play.

The likes of Wimmer Pritchard, Carroll, Mason, Trippier, Davies and Townsend are underused and could be brought on earlier to give others a rest.

Dier and Alderwereild are going to be key, and I would have brought on Mason for Dier and probably Trippier for Walker (who was getting wound up) at 60 minutes when we were 3 up.

Pritchard is injured, no doubt he would've played if fit, partly think N'Jie was bought because of his injuries.

 

[Shadydan]

Bayern would be most likely if Guardiola leaves.

They would want a high profile manager to replace Guardiola.

 

[Gbspurs]

Good post @TwanYid ...........kits still shit though

 

[TaoistMonkey]

@TwanYid remember this thread when we play Chelsea. Stay positive!

 

[danielneeds]

I'll admit I was slightly worried last season at the lack of gradual improvement in terms of implementing his style. At times we looked horribly shapeless and without identity.

But I always suspected that he simply didn't get the time on training ground last year with a hectic summer of preseason tours and the Europa and League Cup runs giving us a lot midweek games, travel and rest days to fit in.

He and his coaches have to be applauded for the progression this year though. We look well drilled and such a tight unit on and off the pitch. Still early days, but it truly is exciting times for the club and the fans.

 

[Adam456]

Well I also wanted FdB and though I liked what I saw at South Coast Big Club I was a little underwhelmed. It came across slightly as a lack of ambition based on his cv.

We saw last season of course exactly how it could work in a few games and whether it's because he cleared the dressing room of (highly paid) dissenters, created team spirit, increased meritocracy, improved individual players, coached the pressing as a team, pass and move, forward passing or simply the team is high on confidence it seems to coming together like nothing I've ever seen at this great club. We are putting in the performances we did against red and blue scum last season week in week out.

My 2 reservations are still about:

Subs - so often when we are ahead he takes off our fastest players when it would help to hit on break.

Europa games - this week will be a case in point I fear. If we can beat Chelsea on Sunday you could make an argument that the gap is simply far too big for them to recover. Not to mention that we could go into the top 2/3 when the top 2 pay each other. Chelsea have to go to Tel Aviv and try to at least draw. We only need to draw at home to Monaco next month to go through. We could send a youth team to Azerbaijan (+ Alli) but he will probably take the whole squad and play half of them

Other than that I am ecstatically happy with him and admit I misjudged it. But let's see where we are in May and what happens when we lose. For what it's worth, after the Arse game I said inthe race for 4th thread that we'd finish 3rd so I'm backing him completely

 

[onthetwo]

Bayern would be most likely if Guardiola leaves.

Was the supposed to make me feel better?

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

I was for LVG and then Benitez, in fact firstly I was for Sherwood. He did something that other managers rarely did he gave youth a chance and Poch has continued that.

Last season was at times great and at times boring as hell.

What he has done with Dier, Mason, Walker and Dembele has been nothing short of a miracle. He is improving players, something that's rare today. Especially with English players.

I really feel we have a chance this season, of what I am not sure.

 

[double0]

Pochettinho was always the right man for this job.
He had gathered EPL experience and showed what sort of manager he was by blooding youth player at Southampton plus the stylish football was admired .

We had a flux of development players bubbling under the surface behind players we brought post Bale. I was hoping we got Pochettinho and very glad we've got him.

 

[jezz]

We're fcuking good and I wanted LVG.

 

[The Watcher]

Is anyone thinking Poch has 2 faces?

The media/public face:
Kind of boring, humourless, not very high self-esteem, tactics on paper not motivating vocally

The internal training-ground face:
Hands-on, very vocal - both on the ground and at taking players aside, certain of his methods not afraid to kick out those who will not follow, fluent english D), kind and caring but also tough as hell (Fergie) - a father figure.

He absolutely does, and a very intelligent media tactic it is too. He knows the cynical 'make 'em, then break 'em' pattern of the English press and so he gives them very little to work with. If you publicly revel in your own achievements and allow expectations to be built up to feverish levels then a downturn in form, coupled with the full glare of media hyperbole can work against the team.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Bayern would be most likely if Guardiola leaves.

Actually, I think the most likely team to steal Poch would be Atletico - if Simeone left.

Poch is not the right manager for Bayern, RM, Barca, Chelsea, Arsenal, Man Untied, Man City, etc. Those clubs are looking for a manager to coach established elite talent. Poch's strength is molding young talent into elite talent. None of those clubs would tolerate a re-building process, and it would be difficult for Poch to motivate established stars to play his style. It is much easier to instill that style on younger players and let them grow into it.

 

[stewartd]

could someone please re-assure me that he isnt about to get offered the Real Madrid job? THAT would be very Spursy.....

He isn't going to be offered the RM job.
There do you feel better now?
and for God sake stop using that awful adjective Spursy its meaningless and pathetic.

 

[McFlash]

I can't hold it back any longer- I gotta say it: I absolutely did not believe Mauricio Pochettino was the man to lead us out of the muck and mire of AVB and Sherwood. I thought he was a fair-to-midling manager, a nice guy, a decent coach- but nowhere near our savior. His appointment just felt so uninspiring, so mediocre; to me- the guy was more of a caretaker than anything else. I figured Levy, ENIC et al. were happy to tread water until the stadium got built- at which time they would appoint a real manager to usher in the new era. I viewed Poch as a "yes" man- someone who wouldn't rock the boat and would keep Spurs in the top 8 whilst neither failing nor winning anything of note.

I was unimpressed with his short, mediocre resumé, didn't think he'd done anything all that noteworthy at Southampton (especially with the way they seemingly improved under Ronald Koeman after he departed), didn't like the fact that his English wasn't all that great and- well- just wasn't excited by the guy at all.

To boot, last season we played the worst football I've ever seen us play (supporter since 2003). I know it was bad because- for the first time ever- I literally couldn't watch us for an entire match most of the time. It wasn't like I was trying not to watch- I just honestly couldn't. Save for a handful of games, I found us so boring that it would've taken an intravenous injection of cocaine and adderall in order for me to focus on an entire match. Plus, the team had no identity (which I blamed him for), he'd gotten rid of Holtby, acquired Fazio, regularly made atrocious in-game decisions (including questionable tactics and head-scratching subs), wore a tracksuit, said "berry emportant" ten times a presser...the list went on and on. I just didn't like the guy as our manager. As a person, sure- but not as our leader.

Anyway- he's a revelation- and we're lucky to have him. This is the best Spurs squad I've ever seen, not in terms of talent necessarily (although we're pretty effing talented), but more in terms of playing as a unit. We are a team now- one with character, identity, toughness and togetherness-- and that's all down to him.

Let me be clear: I never wanted him to fail- in fact I was hoping to be dead fucking wrong- but I wasn't optimistic.

Now, however, I'm full of hope (a weird feeling for such an ardent pessimist)- and we're a joy to watch. Indeed, I can't even believe this is real. Whatever happens from here on in, I know we made the right choice. I wanted Benitez, but I'm totally happy with Poch.

And I have to say I'm impressed with those on here who had faith in him all along; I still don't for the life of me know how on earth you lot had that kind of confidence in him (at least based on what he'd done previously)- but you obviously saw things that I sure didn't. Somehow, some way, some of you just knew...amazing...

Well, I didn't- but I'm ecstatic to have been so utterly wrong.

You were lucky not to have witnessed the 90's. We had to watch a hell of a lot of dross being served up then.
We did have a couple of decent players though!

 

[onthetwo]

He isn't going to be offered the RM job.
There do you feel better now?
and for God sake stop using that awful adjective Spursy its meaningless and pathetic.

how long have you supported Spurs, (if you dont mind me asking)? I feel like i need to know before taking any flack about the use of the word 'Spursy.'

 

[hellava_tough]

Any club that wants to take Poch off our hands, has to get through Levy.

The price-tag would bring tears to your eyes

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I'm gonna stay here sat on this fence until the end of the season.

I'm sure we have a record of going on decent runs in September to December.

A lot of the comments on here could have been posted after we beat QPR 4-0 on match day 2 last season only to then fail to impress for a long time.

For me to truly fall in love with poch he has to show he can identify when his plan A isn't working and do something about it.
Like for like subs isn't what I'm looking for.