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[Dan Yeats]

What if they are a football fan but they don't follow Seria A?

I don't follow Serie A. I couldn't even tell you who won it this year. But I've heard of Fiorentina.

 

[Dan Yeats]

(usually, maybe not with Lamela yet)

Not convinced even that's true tbh. Most of what seems to be "known" about what's gone on with the Llama appears to be based on some pretty foundationless hearsay.

 

[Mullers]

I don't follow Serie A. I couldn't even tell you who won it this year. But I've heard of Fiorentina.

Have they been in the CL recently?

 

[Dan Yeats]

http://www.givemesport.com/259483-manchester-united-best-youth-academy-in-england

The research deemed a primary youth academy prospect to "belong" to a certain club if they had spent three or more years at the facility between the ages of 15 and 21.

For Manchester United, that meant the likes of Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes, Darren Fletcher, Jonny Evans, Tom Cleverley and Danny Welbeck all count as home-grown players, and the majority are now first-team regulars.

Other players to have come through the ranks at Old Trafford, only then to have moved on, include Stoke City defender Ryan Shawcross, Sunderland's Phil Bardsley and Everton's Phil Neville, while Paul Pogba left this summer for Juventus.

After the first two (who 'graduated' more than a decade ago, before our new facility was even on the drawing board), anyone else noticing a bit of a drop-off in quality there...?

Shoddy and flawed analysis, generated purely as a free-advertising piece for the firm that produced it.

 

[Dan Yeats]

Have they been in the CL recently?

Dunno. I'm totally Spurs-centric. The only time I pay any attention to the CL is when we're in it.

 

[Mullers]

Dunno. I'm totally Spurs-centric. The only time I pay any attention to the CL is when we're in it.

Unless people have heard about Batistuta how would someone know about them, if they haven't won anything or been in the CL?

 

[jambreck]

http://www.givemesport.com/259483-manchester-united-best-youth-academy-in-england

That article is a year old and its stats were based, in part, on players such as Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes. I don't think I need to tell you how long ago they came through the Utd academy.

We're talking about 2014. Not 1992. And, right now, Tottenham's academy is at least as highly rated as Utd's.

 

[Dan Yeats]

Unless people have heard about Batistuta how would someone know about them, if they haven't won anything or been in the CL?

Rui Costa, in my case.

I'm assuming over the years there have been a few stories in the foreign press about Ardiles, Villa, Gazza, Klinsmann, Bale, Modric, etc etc etc......

 

[Mullers]

That article is a year old and its stats were based, in part, on players such as Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes. I don't think I need to tell you how long ago they came through the Utd academy.

We're talking about 2014. Not 1992. And, right now, Tottenham's academy is at least as highly rated as Utd's.

Tom Cleverly, Wellbeck, Shawcross, Bardsley, Pogbra. Who have we produced? Who specifically is saying that our academy is as good as United?

 

[Chris12]

Tom Cleverly, Wellbeck, Shawcross, Bardsley, Pogbra. Who have we produced? Who specifically is saying that our academy is as good as United?

Peter Crouch, Andros Townsend, Steven Caulker, Ledley King..

At the moment our youth academy is slightly better than Man UTD due to how well youth have been doing in there relative set-up. We also got a slight bit of information from someone who's brother works at Stoke and has said that us and Chelsea have the two best youth academy's in the country.

Granted Man UTD U21's got to the finals of the League against Chelsea and lost, but our team from what have read have lost tons of key players that were there last year, and our U18's were in the semi-finals for their respective League.

 

[Mullers]

Rui Costa, in my case.

I'm assuming over the years there have been a few stories in the foreign press about Ardiles, Villa, Gazza, Klinsmann, Bale, Modric, etc etc etc......

I'm sure they would have with Bale and Modric but with us not being in the CL and not winning anything I wonder how many people worldwide really want to follow us.

 

[Mullers]

Peter Crouch, Andros Townsend, Steven Caulker, Ledley King..

At the moment our youth academy is slightly better than Man UTD due to how well youth have been doing in there relative set-up. We also got a slight bit of information from someone who's brother works at Stoke and has said that us and Chelsea have the two best youth academy's in the country.

Granted Man UTD U21's got to the finals of the League against Chelsea and lost, but our team from what have read have lost tons of key players that were there last year, and our U18's were in the semi-finals for their respective League.

King and Crouch are not really that recent but the other two I'll grant you. I'll try and see if I can find out what other people are saying about our academy.

 

[ogsvaldo]

Ain't saying Pogba for them like saying we produced Gareth Bale!

Livermore, Caulker and Townsend have all come through very recently and have all played for England. We also have Harry Kane and Tom Carroll who I expect will both get capped at some point in the future.

Our current crop of u18s are FAR better than the youth team all the above players played in, not to mention the style of football they produce. Our academy right now is up there with the best around without question. Hopefully we see the benefit in the first team shortly with the likes of Pritchard, Oduwa, Winks, KWP, Onomah etc

 

[Dan Yeats]

I'm sure they would have with Bale and Modric but with us not being in the CL and not winning anything I wonder how many people worldwide really want to follow us.

'Following' us and just being aware of us are different things though, no?

I'm sure there's a lot of regional variation too. I'd guess our profile is higher in Belgium, Argentina, and France than in Chile, Spain and Ghana for instance.

 

[Dan Yeats]

Peter Crouch, Andros Townsend, Steven Caulker, Ledley King..

At the moment our youth academy is slightly better than Man UTD due to how well youth have been doing in there relative set-up. We also got a slight bit of information from someone who's brother works at Stoke and has said that us and Chelsea have the two best youth academy's in the country.

Granted Man UTD U21's got to the finals of the League against Chelsea and lost, but our team from what have read have lost tons of key players that were there last year, and our U18's were in the semi-finals for their respective League.

It'd be interesting to know Windy's take on it.

Does he post on here? Or is anyone in contact with him?

 

[Chris12]

King and Crouch are not really that recent but the other two I'll grant you. I'll try and see if I can find out what other people are saying about our academy.

Wouldn't class Bardsley as very recent either tbh but whatever floats your boat. Also got Livermore and Harry Kane granted HK just only starting to show capabilities in PL

 

[Dan Yeats]

King and Crouch are not really that recent but the other two I'll grant you. I'll try and see if I can find out what other people are saying about our academy.

Plus Townsend, Livermore, Bentaleb, Kane, Rose (yeah, I know - but still), Carroll, Pritchard...

Most of those players haven't fully proven themselves yet - but we're certainly producing potential.

 

[Mullers]

Plus Townsend, Livermore, Bentaleb, Kane, Rose (yeah, I know - but still), Carroll, Pritchard...

Most of those players haven't fully proven themselves yet - but we're certainly producing potential.

I think we've regularly turned out potential down the years it is the next step up which is the problem

 

[Dan Yeats]

I think we've regularly turned out potential down the years it is the next step up which is the problem

I was sure Andy Turner and Danny Hill were going to boss it.

That was before the new set-up though tbf.

 

[Dan Yeats]

Oh yeah - Nick Barmby.

What a fucking waste.