Reids-Belly
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Ian Holloway is a god......
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AW?
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Haha that's class.
And he's right ofcourse. Fucking agents and these ridiculous rules are killing the game and lining the wrong peoples pockets.
As for Rooney... well he can't even stay loyal to his wife let alone a football club the petulant ugly little ****!
And he's right ofcourse. Fucking agents and these ridiculous rules are killing the game and lining the wrong peoples pockets.
As for Rooney... well he can't even stay loyal to his wife let alone a football club the petulant ugly little ****!
jimmy-jojo
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Spurs_Bear
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Surely it's all relative though.
jimmy-jojo
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That's the club's choice doesn't mean they 'own' the player. You don't own human beings.
Presumably you approve of slavery, then?
Rather than moan about the Bosman ruling maybe the focus should be on the arcane transfer system which treats players as commodities the same as cattle.
Reids-Belly
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Yet these players are quite happy to be commodities when they're picking up £100k a week.
jimmy-jojo
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Also doesn't matter if your employer paid £26m, £1 or nothing.
Would you be happy if your employer demanded that they be paid before you could leave your job? Furthermore, even though your current employer paid nothing for you he was now demanding £1m from any prospective employer.
You'd be happy being a slave?
jimmy-jojo
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stevenurse
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I see where you are coming from but slaves arent paid £100k.
jimmy-jojo
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It's the principle.
The vast amount of football players are not paid £100k per week. What about the Div 2 are being paid 1 per cent of that?
klinsmannsbeetle
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I think Ian Holloway, as entertaining and passionate as he is, is completely wrong in the respect that a club somehow 'owns' a player.
The whole problem with football at present is that when the Bosman ruling came in ie., that a player can walk away for nothing at the end of a contract, talk was rife that it was the end of transfer fees - and it should have been. It was thought that big wages and long contracts would replace transfer fees, with the players getting disproportionately wealthy. What has ACTUALLY happened is that transfer fees have remained AND players have got disproportionately wealthy, hence the number of clubs now in trouble.
Regarding contracts themselves, if somebody wants to employ you, me or the bloke next door for four years, paying us whether we get better or worse at our jobs, regardless whether work tails off or not, and knowing full well that we may get a long-term injury at some time during that contract, then in no other industry in the world would he be expected to pay the current employer a transfer few too.
The problem is that clubs are their own worst enemies in this respect: they mostly likely won't want to see the removal of transfer fees because of the investment they have made previously. Unfortunately, it's a vicious circle, and one that will continue to spin for a long time to come.
The whole problem with football at present is that when the Bosman ruling came in ie., that a player can walk away for nothing at the end of a contract, talk was rife that it was the end of transfer fees - and it should have been. It was thought that big wages and long contracts would replace transfer fees, with the players getting disproportionately wealthy. What has ACTUALLY happened is that transfer fees have remained AND players have got disproportionately wealthy, hence the number of clubs now in trouble.
Regarding contracts themselves, if somebody wants to employ you, me or the bloke next door for four years, paying us whether we get better or worse at our jobs, regardless whether work tails off or not, and knowing full well that we may get a long-term injury at some time during that contract, then in no other industry in the world would he be expected to pay the current employer a transfer few too.
The problem is that clubs are their own worst enemies in this respect: they mostly likely won't want to see the removal of transfer fees because of the investment they have made previously. Unfortunately, it's a vicious circle, and one that will continue to spin for a long time to come.
nickchrissi
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Holloway is right - listen to what he said.
If a player, at the end of his contract is offered better terms by another club - as long as his parent club matches that offer, he stays.
How the f*** is that slavery?
sidford
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comparing football to slavery is an insult to the hundreds of millions of people who were taken from their homes/families/countries to be worked to death all in the name of slavery
to suggest it is similar is shameful and ignorant (calling someones view ignorant isnt the same as calling someone ignorant before people try to claim im calling them ignorant), im not looking to get into a long debate with someone about this and i wont be visiting this thread again but to the members who are comparing the two can i suggest that you be very careful who you say that to in person because if anyone has descendants that were unfortunate enough to be slaves then be prepared for an emotional response to it
ps long may blackpool stay in the premiership so holloway can keep entertaining us!
to suggest it is similar is shameful and ignorant (calling someones view ignorant isnt the same as calling someone ignorant before people try to claim im calling them ignorant), im not looking to get into a long debate with someone about this and i wont be visiting this thread again but to the members who are comparing the two can i suggest that you be very careful who you say that to in person because if anyone has descendants that were unfortunate enough to be slaves then be prepared for an emotional response to it
ps long may blackpool stay in the premiership so holloway can keep entertaining us!
BringBack_leGin
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Oh diddums, the poor little division 2 players who only earn £50k a year, however do they manage? :shrug:
AW?
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Well isn't this about the Rooney scenario? As soon as things aren't going his way he spits his dummy out (encouraged by his agent no doubt) and wants to jump ship. What happened to honouring your contract?
If a team buys you. Note the word BUY. Then surely they do own you up until that contract is up. They're professional athletes doing something they enjoy and they get paid massive amounts of money for it. Slaves? What a joker!
spurs mental
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Girl: Ian have you got any injury worries?
Holloway: No, I'm fully fit thank you.
:lol:
Holloway: No, I'm fully fit thank you.
:lol:
bryanabutler
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Dont forget we have been there Judas, Berbatoss, :hump:and how many on here would be a football slave for 100, 150, 200, thousand a week
