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In one word, describe your current feelings about THFC.

Spurger King

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Yeah, I realised the inherently ambiguous nature of the word could lead to that interpretation (some may say it was more apt, too), which is why I added the </or\> to indicate, in true semiotic style that the reader could add to the meaning themselves.

But hey, I have "Gullon Vitalday sandwich de avellana con avena y chips de chocolate/hazelnut sandwich with oat and chocolate chip" and 'America's Dark Secrets Declassified' on the Tele, so I don't really mind explaining that to you :)
I think the timing of this thread has skewered the reactions. Bring in a forward like Berahino and a decent DM and suddenly we look very promising. At the moment everything is up on the air.

I do agree with an earlier post about a general ambivalence towards football. To have any chance of real success you need your club to be big spenders, which, as with Oil Money FC, renders any 'success' virtually meaningless.

There's an interesting correlation between the decline in competition in football, and the rise of social media. I think a lot of people enjoy being able to discuss football whilst increasingly losing interest in the sport itself (as odd as that sounds).

For my part I'm not sure what I'm supporting these days. If Kane builds on last season he'll end up going. The new stadium won't elevate us above any current rivals. A new sugar daddy might offer trophies, but it would all be a bit empty.

Guess I'm just jaded by it all. I don't have a lot of enthusiasm for investing huge amounts of emotion into perpetual also-rans, and I don't really think I'd care much about us becoming another Oil Money club.
 

StartingPrice

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I think the timing of this thread has skewered the reactions. Bring in a forward like Berahino and a decent DM and suddenly we look very promising. At the moment everything is up on the air.

I do agree with an earlier post about a general ambivalence towards football. To have any chance of real success you need your club to be big spenders, which, as with Oil Money FC, renders any 'success' virtually meaningless.

There's an interesting correlation between the decline in competition in football, and the rise of social media. I think a lot of people enjoy being able to discuss football whilst increasingly losing interest in the sport itself (as odd as that sounds).

For my part I'm not sure what I'm supporting these days. If Kane builds on last season he'll end up going. The new stadium won't elevate us above any current rivals. A new sugar daddy might offer trophies, but it would all be a bit empty.

Guess I'm just jaded by it all. I don't have a lot of enthusiasm for investing huge amounts of emotion into perpetual also-rans, and I don't really think I'd care much about us becoming another Oil Money club.

There's no easy way to answer that.

I agree that the timing of the thread in many ways determines the response (apart from the more optimistic/loon members of the forum like myself) - a good win tomorrow and a new signing and the standard response would probably be fapping :troll:

I do understand the ambivalence, while not sharing it. Sometimes the response to something like that is deeply personal. With me, I grew up with football in a very real sense. My crew played football constantly (headers & volleys at the garages until 11 pm and Mum's from our streets shouting us in, incessantly). Relatives who played top flight/international football. My Dad was a player at a pretty high level (until he foolishly fecked his team off because he felt that he didn't need to train with them as he boxed and played Hurling). Then, when he grafted to bring his family up, he may have done a shitey job for a shitey wage, but at least he got tickets for the match in his packet every fortnight. So, for me, football really is part of my personal and family heritage.

Unfortunately, I got lost along the way for a while (the legacy of massive unemployment in the 1980's and dropping out of school and hence not fulfilling potential), and what with my indulgence in various kinds of naughtiness, I kinda lost sight of what was important and what keeps you grounded. Then, when I kinda sorted myself out I had a German girlfriend who didn't like footie (she was from a very affluent family and all). I remember one day the lads on my course were going for a kick-about and were calling me over - and she game me a look as if to say yeah, go-on if you want...but your little fecking not Desert Eagle bollox will be on a kebab skewer and on the barbie if you do! So I didn't (I suppose that's quite controlling, isn't it...but she was pretty A1 material and I was besotted so I didn't fight for my right to party much). When I was doing my dissertation I had a caravan in the hills outside town (Wales life - no sheep jokes - :happy:). And because I was studying aspects of film I was very insistent that I didn't want a TV and video as I know my own foibles and I wouldn't have got any work done. When I needed to watch a film, I booked it in the Uni. library.

So all in all, I spent a lot of time where I would have always described myself as a football supporter and I did catch the occasional game - though that, in itself could be problematic. I remember watching a Luton/Spammers game in a pub in Wales when I had drank so much Old Speckled Hen that there were two screens (at least) and the high scoring made me very confused as to what was actually happening. Or the 5 - 3 game with Southampton and Rocket Ronnie, where I was so stoned that the first half with the three Saints goals lasted so long that I thought I was in a scene from Danté, but then the second half was so joyous that I became quite bizarre in my absolute joy and at one moment did truly believe I had slipped through a crack into eternal paradise (coming from three down away to win 5 - 3 for all of eternity...now that is heaven). But, on the whole, I lost sight of such things, and suffered for it in the long run.

So, when I got a TV again, even watching MOTD was like watching with a child's eyes. It was a way back to myself, to my heritage, to being rooted, grounded - and, paradoxically, given how far from relaxed so many seem to be getting ATM (not just Spurs fans*), including myself when I perceive the Referees/Officials/FA/UEFA plot against us, it was a way for me to switch off and relax (something I had forgotten how to do). So, ever since, I really do enjoy my football again. I'll never forget going to my first live match in years. I got down pitch side, which is where I always liked to be (great for atmosphere, not for view). And the thing that struck me, more than anything - the smell of the grass. So strong and pure smelling. I know there is a lot of crap in the game ATM, sure, maybe there always was. But that allows the likes of Septic Bladder [sic.] to take it away from us. And it shouldn't. I know my cheery optimism and enjoyment do a few heads in on here, but I want to enjoy it. The game belongs to us, and it is for enjoying. Yeah, it's also for venting on a Saturday and so on, it fulfills that aspect. But more than anything, it is about enjoyment. Folk could do with reading about conditions when the game came into being - way back in the day. The working conditions, lack of leisure time, lack of fresh air, lack of exercise. Winning the right to have an afternoon off was a massive thing back then...maybe if more modern fans appreciated that rather than imagining some Gawd-given right to see an all-conquering team play some kinda Golden Age football every week, with 8 foot players who are all 10 times stronger than the puny men of today, they may fall in love with the game again. But, hey, like reading books and things...can't have the peasants doing that, now, can we :)

The correlation in the decline of competition and the rise of social media is interesting. It's hard to put a finger on it. Maybe it is just the natural selection accruing from the BPL/CL and the ensuing gravy-train. And maybe I am a bit paranoid seeing black bread and circuses at work here - in this pathological need for there to be a Sky Four Harlem Globe Trotter clique and no other clubs are allowed to build to compete. If they get any good players they just have to give them up to the big boys who are keeping the masses quieted.

What I'm supporting, apart from the club I have always supported - since pre-teeny years and on into dotage - is an exciting youth policy, a club that is building organically and not just throwing money at it. A young team that is (hopefully) going to grow together. I'm not supporting any particular owner, or Levy, or big money signings to show off against other team's big money signings. I really don't give a shit how much or how little a player costs - I care that we get good players. Like Kane, cost nowt. Rose, Bentaleb, Mason...er...Townsend:whistle: But seriously, that's what I am supporting. Maybe it is the historian in me, that inclines me towards taking the long view and I know that doesn't sit well with some. But I've been following what Levy has been doing with the youth since he left The PleatMeister in charge and fecked off to Europe for a hiatus to investigate best practice. And it feels...well...kinda noble. Knowing that we aren't wanted. Knowing that the pathetic schleppers who govern our game get all anxious when we are doing well and threatening their hegemony, but welcome Citeh in with open arms*. Seeing all the dodgy officiating, the snatching of Arnesen and Willian by the Scummy Chavs because they are worried by our challenge. Being cheated out of a CL place (and, yes, I really do believe something dodgy went down for them to win that CL final, or even get theer in the first place). We may never get there...but that somehow feels to be not the point. A few cup wins by doing it the right way would shake them up, even if only a little bit. And I like that.

I'm not sure I share your view on Kane. A lot depends on just how good our young players are. But if a fair few of them fulfill their promise and our excellent young players gel, I really don't see any reason why he would be in a rush to leave. He really is a supporter who loves the club. I know Soiled ScabBall was supposed to be as well and it kinda leaves the hope tarnished. But sometimes it is good to believe. And I believe that he is sincere. I believe that if we develop as we can and are challenging he can easily afford to give it five more years. By then the stadium will have developed and we will have a real idea of how that will impact things. And we will have seen how well the youth have developed - and I am pretty certain he is more aware than either of us how much promise is in there. And with the new stadium done his wage should be substantially higher. If all this leads to him being a member of a team that is challenging, great, but if it transpire as your fear, well, I for one wouldn't grudge him moving on to maximise his career. I just think we should wait and see, rather than building all of these bridges that we can't cross. All we can do, really is support the team and hope - not much point in worrying what might happen if this happens if that happens, is there? Our youth may be sheeeeite, but, there again, they may turn out to be as good or better than the bunch Fergie bought through at United. I'm not saying they will or they won't, but I am excited to see. And didn't you say something about getting a tattoo on yer dick if Eriksen stayed for more than two seasons? :sick:

I agree, have little interest in being an oil club. I guess the big difference between us ATM is that you see little changing in the hierarchy, in challenge the dodgy oil money clubs, etc., where I am excited by the youth (cue Whinger jokes). I'm not interested in whether we are also rans or not - the vast majority of football fans for the vast majority of the history of the game have supported clubs with next to zero chance of winning things - and done so with no less gusto for that. I think the telling comment is that you feel like you are investing. What I realised when I got back to footie was what I was getting out of it. For fear of going all Marcel Proust, it brings back so many memories. And it is something you can take so much from - and not anything that has a monetary value. Some folk feel that we have all been changed from supporters into consumers. Maybe that's the problem. I just enjoy supporting my club again, and reintegrating with myself while I'm at it. I empathise with the jaded thang...my wayward life left me somewhat jaded, but funnily enough, footie was part of my way out of all that. But maybe, something like my caravan in the hills with no TV sojourn would do you good . Maybe you would benefit from a little break from it - which, I note, no-one gets now with t'Internet speculation and argument right through the summer.

Longest one word in the history of one word responses :playful: My detractors will be having a field-day :whistle: Anyway, I am looking forward to this young squad and our youth developing and hope to enjoy the season (apart from the dodgy reffing). The only other thing I can say is COYS :wacky:
 

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Armstrong_11

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unprepared....

we look like we are still in preseason. mentally not ready.
 
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