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sloth

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Why Spurs are loath to fund Harry Redknapp's grand designs
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ry-Redknapps-grand-designs.html#ixzz0xbVhlNTv

Young Boys 3, Lucky Boys 2, read the headline, but the luckiest Tottenham Hotspur boy was not even on the pitch in Berne last week. Daniel Levy, the chairman, looks to have got away with it, just. Tottenham should achieve the victory that will see them through to the Champions League proper at White Hart Lane on Wednesday night and Levy's caution in the transfer market this summer will not have come at enormous cost.

It is, however, a close call, and may yet prove disastrous if the Swiss spring a second surprise. Most tellingly, it demonstrates the delicate balancing act that is modern club ownership. Like one of those hotel shower taps where the difference between scalding hot and freezing cold is 0.0007 millimetres, it is an astonishing game of brinkmanship that the money men are now expected to play.

This time last year, Harry Redknapp, Tottenham's manager, was pushing Levy to buy more players. Redknapp is always short of players. He could have squad numbers running into three figures and there would still be one player needed to make his squad complete. Redknapp's complaint about being down to the bare bones is as much a hardy annual as the post that obscures Arsene Wenger's view of contentious incidents or the referee that has cost Steve Bruce another three points.

On this occasion, Redknapp was pushing for two additions and seemed to have a point. He wanted a goalkeeper because Heurelho Gomes was judged too flaky and a centre half because Tottenham have cornered the market in outstanding defenders with injury problems to match.

Redknapp had targeted David James of Portsmouth and Matthew Upson of West Ham United. Levy would not sanction either transfer and was thoroughly vindicated. Upson had a poor season for his club and James struggled with injury. Redknapp, as he often does, then worked wonders with Gomes, who became one of the Premier League's best goalkeepers, and Michael Dawson pulled through despite an inauspicious start to solve Tottenham's problems in the centre of defence. Tottenham finished fourth and qualified for the Champions League third preliminary round. At which point Levy's stance grew even more interesting.

Tottenham have not spent big again. Redknapp has attempted to prise Scott Parker from West Ham - without success - and has signed free agent William Gallas after the defender's departure from Arsenal, but the investment that would be expected of a club once it has dived into the elite pool has been missing.

If Tottenham do not maintain last season's position or, worse, fail to capitalise on that achievement against Young Boys tonight, Levy will be perceived to have frittered away an opportunity to change the status of his club in the modern era. If he bet the farm on taking Tottenham forward, however, and it was still not enough to keep Sheik Mansour and Manchester City at bay, he risks placing a successful, viable business in jeopardy. Why anyone thinks owning a football club is fun in the current climate, heaven knows.

Levy might be walking a tightrope but he warrants praise in at least taking responsibility. There are far too many club owners who get into trouble financially and then point the finger at a wasteful manager, as if employees are autonomous and can pull up millions without consultation. Redknapp's powers of persuasion have been blamed for the downfall of Portsmouth and the first of many financial crises at West Ham. This is unfair. Yes, Redknapp's love of a new signing is legendary and his demands can push the resources to the limit, but who can blame him?

Managers are judged purely on results, and the strongest teams win most matches. There are plenty of good boys out there: managers who watch the chairman's money as if it were their own and they are three straight defeats from the sack just the same. Redknapp fights as hard as he can to give himself the best chance of doing a good job, just as Martin O'Neill did at Aston Villa. Nothing wrong with that. The owner has a tongue in his head and the right to say no. It is a fair fight, as Levy's resilience has proved.

I made this point last season when Portsmouth hit the rocks and was taken to task by Terence Brown, former chairman of West Ham, who has also blamed Redknapp for financial pressures. 'It isn't as simple as that,' he sniffed, as if Redknapp is some mindcontrol guru.

Yes it is. If you cannot afford a player you say no, as Randy Lerner said no to O'Neill. Some managers will quit, Redknapp will moan and the supporters may become frustrated, but they will come to understand a reasoned argument for prudence. Levy still has them on his side at White Hart Lane, and he has been saying no to Redknapp for over a year now.

Whether his caution will prove justified a second time is another matter. Young Boys have presented more difficulty than anticipated, yet, even if Tottenham progress as expected tonight, nobody believes they will become champions of Europe. This means that to maintain their position in the tournament they will have to finish in the top four of the Barclays Premier League again and, with the amount of money thrown at this target by Manchester City, the long-standing superiority of Manchester United and Chelsea, plus Arsenal ' s improvement, this will prove harder than ever.

If Levy does not invest, and Tottenham's challenge fades, he will, like Lerner, be considered a man whose courage faltered when it mattered most.

Whatever Levy spends cannot match the scope of the project at Manchester City and are Tottenham a match for the traditional Champions League elite clubs, the fading Liverpool aside? If Levy plunged into the transfer market with a £50million or £100m investment and it still wasn't sufficient, where would Tottenham be?

It is a ridiculous balancing act that club owners are being asked to perform these days; and while it is easy to blame Manchester City's owners for distorting the cost of success, they are merely trying to catch up with clubs that have lived off the extraordinary dividend of the Champions League season after season.

This is the real problem, and Levy's great dilemma. Last year, Liverpool earned £23.6m from UEFA for getting knocked out at the Champions League group stage, while Fulham banked £8.1m for reaching the final of the Europa League. Levy will feel an imperative to invest to keep the good times going, while all the time knowing the calamitous double whammy of failure: a huge transfer deficit and at least £15m knocked off competition revenue streams. It could place his club in jeopardy.

So he will continue being a hardass. Tottenham, having seemingly given up on Parker, have now turned their attention to Lassana Diarra, who is available for £10m from Real Madrid. It is a sign of the times that this is no longer regarded as a particularly startling or ambitious investment for a club with designs on the Champions League. It made a few paragraphs in the newspapers at the weekend, but no more, confirming the predicament that faces the chairman of every ambitious club.

Levy is expected to go for it, with no guarantee of what he is going for, his upside being the opportunity to do it all again next year; his downside being ruin and bottles bouncing off his Bentley all the way down Tottenham High Road. What fun.
 

$hoguN

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That article makes it sound like Levy hasn't backed Harry at all which is utter b****ks, we have signed Palacios, Bassong, Sandro, Defoe, Keane, Crouch, Gallas, Cudicini, Krancjar, Walker and Naughton all while Harry has been at the helm, so Levy has backed his manager.
 

THFC6061

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The fact that Tottenham Hotspur managed to achieve a fourth place Premier League finish last season, while still posting profits is a remarkable achievement in this day and age.

A quick look at Arsenal, who finished one place above us but spent around £50 million more than Spurs on their annual player's wage bill, shows the diminishing returns for even a club who get Champions League football.

In fact, over their last five trophyless seasons, Arsenal have squandered about £250 million more than Spurs on player's wages with bugger-all to show for it.
 

TheChosenOne

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West Ham fan Martin Samuel who is reputed to earn £400k pa used to peddle shyte like this when he was at The Times.

He ain't changed. As for the last sentence of the article - pathetic !
 

Midostouch

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The fact that Tottenham Hotspur managed to achieve a fourth place Premier League finish last season, while still posting profits is a remarkable achievement in this day and age.

A quick look at Arsenal, who finished one place above us but spent around £50 million more than Spurs on their annual player's wage bill, shows the diminishing returns for even a club who get Champions League football.

In fact, over their last five trophyless seasons, Arsenal have squandered about £250 million more than Spurs on player's wages with bugger-all to show for it.

Well said - we're often quoted as being profligate in the transfer market but we are very sound financially. Levy clearly does have a bit of a juggling act going on - I'm sure that IF we win tonight he'll be going for higher level transfers in this last week of the window. But we've always known that he's the best in the premiership for sound financial management.
 

Stoof

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I mean, as much as I despise Samuel and his defection to the Daily Fail from proper big paper The Times, he slightly misses the point re: backing Harry. However, the rest of what he says is quite sensible; it is a tight-rope being a chairman and from reading that he's acknowledged that Levy has walked it well so far.

The assumption I dislike is the "get players in" philosophy. Like it's that easy. We could target Messi, Kaka and Cristiano Ronaldo and get praised to high heaven for being ambitious despite rejection out of hand. Or we can approach more realistic players and get knocked back by their clubs (Parker, for example) - of which the management/board is then blamed for not doing more to get them in. A transfer has to have two levels of agreement: purchasing club to selling club and purchasing club to target player - agreeing one is tricky, and if the player is good, agreeing both requires a massive commercial effort.

So whilst I think the article says good things about Levy, it needs to get its facts straight re: transfers and particularly about Levy and Harry's relationship.
 

Donki

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IMO a load of balls article that can't quite make up its mind what its trying to say and waffles back and forth. Harry has said on a number of occasions that if the window closed with the squad he has now he would be content. I am not saying that he wouldn't like a player or 2 but he certainly isn't complaining. Just poor, poor jounalisim.
 

whitelightwhiteheat

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Rubbish.

And we don't need to spend £100m (or whatever) to match Man City. We've got an excellent squad already.

We just need one or two additions.
 

Spurs_Bear

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Lots of rubbish in the article. He states as fact that Harry wanted to displace Gomes and Dawson with James and Upson, then credits Harry for turning around Gomes' fortunes which is also inaccurate.

It's a bullshit article written by a typical non Spurs supporting journalist. It's along similar lines to what Tony Gale says on SSN, just because he is a scumbag.
 

Lilbaz

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Hopefully we can sign Diarra and Fab. If we can then a serious push for the title may be on the cards.
 

Kendall

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I agree with much of what he says. Its a fine balancing act.

If Levy did back Redknapp as much as he desires, we'd potentially have the likes of Diarra and Dzeko etc, with huge wages to match. Then if we still didn't cut the mustard, we'd be on a struggle to balance the books. Just look how quickly things can turn for clubs that spend beyond their means trying to speculate to accumulate.

Levy is a wise old hand when it comes to investment in all areas. But he will remember spending £40/£50m and then having to sack his manager for fear of relegation.

I think everyone feels our current squad should be good enough to get into the group stages of the CL. Maybe then we can spend the money we've actually earned, rather than spending money we hope we will earn.
 

Spurs_Bear

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I agree with much of what he says. Its a fine balancing act.

If Levy did back Redknapp as much as he desires, we'd potentially have the likes of Diarra and Dzeko etc, with huge wages to match. Then if we still didn't cut the mustard, we'd be on a struggle to balance the books. Just look how quickly things can turn for clubs that spend beyond their means trying to speculate to accumulate.

Levy is a wise old hand when it comes to investment in all areas. But he will remember spending £40/£50m and then having to sack his manager for fear of relegation.

I think everyone feels our current squad should be good enough to get into the group stages of the CL. Maybe then we can spend the money we've actually earned, rather than spending money we hope we will earn.

You say that, but if we had say hypothetically signed Dzeko and Diarra, then this season finished 7th, we would easily be able to get them off our books as they are such sought after players (Dzeko especially but I'm sure there would still be many suitors for Diarra).

The balancing act is not overspending on shit players which is what maybe Harry's old chairmen may have been guilty of in the past. Defoe, Crouch, Diarra etc weren't the players that got Pompey into trouble, it was sanctioning the wages of John Utaka etc that left them up the creek as no other team would go near them.
 

yido16

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I agree to this article too, He is not saying Levy wont back him , but it was a fact we were looking at keepers when Gomez was going through his indifferent spell. PLus the fact where harry has gone he is always buying and that levy has backed him tbh levy made a great decision in not backing harry for Upson thet would of been a nightmare.He is stating that Levy could plunge 100 million and it may not get us any further than where we are already,
 

$hoguN

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I agree to this article too, He is not saying Levy wont back him , but it was a fact we were looking at keepers when Gomez was going through his indifferent spell. PLus the fact where harry has gone he is always buying and that levy has backed him tbh levy made a great decision in not backing harry for Upson thet would of been a nightmare.He is stating that Levy could plunge 100 million and it may not get us any further than where we are already,

A German strikers indifferent form should have no effect on goal keeping situation :wink:
 

Booney

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Martin Samuel is a beardy, opinionated, sweaty Gooner who has never had anything positive to say about Spurs in his entire journalistic career. There is nothing he would enjoy more than stirring up enough tension between our manager and chairman to cause some kind of permanent rift. The way that he eludes to the relationship between Harry and DL going the same way as Lerner and O'Neill is just very wishful thinking on his part. He's just like all the other worried Gooners who want Harry to go asap before we overtake them.

I suggest ignoring everything he ever writes our says no matter how subtely it is dressed up as balanced journalism.
 

Son_Of

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where he is correct is that whatever Levy had spent this summer would have been no guarantee of finishing in the top 4 again. city have bought 5 or more top notch players, arse have held on to cesc and bought chamakh, pool have bought cole and kept gerard, torres. i suppose we don't know what joe cole would have done if we were outbidding liverpool's wages.
but anyway it would have been reckless to blow loads of money this summer in order to try and sew up 4th spot. if we win tonight that is worth £10m i read somewhere so we could sign a striker and have the lure of already being in the group stage
 

guiltyparty

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Have I missed the bit where he says loads of ill-informed crap? Thought it was a fairly straightforward, sensible article. Samuel is consistently very good, don't understand the haters
 

worcestersauce

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Agree with Donki this article drifts all over the place in fact it looks like one he had in his drawer ready to pull out for the deadline when writers block kicks in and he can't think of a thing to say about anything relevant.
As for not backing Redknapp contrary to what Sammuel says Levy wouldn't just say no he would discuss it with Rednknapp and look to get the player in however he is the one who sets the value and if he can't get him in for that price he doesn't buy him which is something I expect Harry accepts as sensible.

I do sometimes think come on Danny "To dare is to do" but I suppose it's a fine line between daring and foolhardy.
 
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