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It's all in the goal difference

rsmith

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Just to be clear, this is not about today's game, not 'AVB out', and not about any individual players.

It's also not a knee jerk.

It's about goal difference.

Check the end of season league tables, and as well as being ranked by points, the table is more or less ranked by goal difference. So what? The interesting thing about GD is that ranking sides by GD is surprisingly consistent from the early stages of the season. Sides in the bottom three, but with a significant positive GD, tend to have risen by the end of the season. The opposite is also true; ie. a team can be flying high early on, but without a commensurate GD, gravity beckons.

Over the course of a season, luck balances out. Wins by the odd goal based on a dodgy decision or a deflected free kick, get balanced by the losses by an odd goal caused by a defender losing his footing or a keeper playing a blinder. Wins by 2,3 etc goals aren't susceptible to luck.

If anybody fancies a friendly fiver that the top 4 come the end of this season won't be Arse, Chelski, Pool, and Citeh. Pm me.

Watching our progress this season as we bounced in and around the top four, our GD has been consistently below the teams around us. We're now 7th on points and 8th on GD. We're now sitting in the league place our performances warrant.

The writing on the wall has been there for longer than this season. We yids don't want to admit what every other fan, pundit and professional was saying last season. Spurs 12/13 was all about Bale. AVB fanbois will claim that it was AVB's brilliance to play a formation that allowed Bale the freedom to score the goals that got us our highest ever points tally. Who knows, they might be right. A statistician might demonstrate that our points tally was simply an inevitable consequence of the relative standard of the teams that gave us those points.

I don't have a particular solution to punt. I'm not qualified to suggest that Ade needs rehabilitating urgently, that Lamela needs game time NOW, that there is no fluidity in our formation (unlike Bale and Azza switching wings at will last season), or that we miss Modric's ability to turn defence into attack in a split second. Maybe our season was defined when we failed to land Benteke.

[Having said that, it was pretty clear that it was easy for Newcastle to double up on Townsend because we did nothing down the left. The thing I've liked most about Lamela, even in the PL games he was slated for, was his involvement across the full width]

But what I can say with absolute certainty is that our play has not adapted or progressed in the last 12 months, and unless it changes radically and dramatically before the Christmas bulge, seventh place is more or less where we'll be come next May. The players from Lloris to Sandro will comfortably win us a point per game over the season. In front of them we have a squad to cream over, but something ain't right and it ain't getting any better.

Apologies for the rant. Two seasons ago I looked forward to every second of football that we played, and I'll admit it, I enjoyed basking in the reflected glory as pundit after pundit waxed over our performances. I'm not enjoying this season much.

I'm off to finish my bottle of Shiraz now. COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

CowInAComa

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Aug 31, 2012
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No it wasnt about Bale, it was about the chat AvB gave him.

He turned him into an £85m butterfly. With his words.
 

Geyzer Soze

Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
Aug 16, 2010
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I've a feeling gd will again bite us in the ass on the weekend when we throw away all the points & Utd pip us to 6th & Europe on gd
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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I missed this original post the first time around but what a great post it was.

Although I remember Ajax finishing 2nd one year and their GD was over +100
How the fuck did that happen?
 

Booney

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Dec 2, 2004
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All the new manager needs to do is get us to score more and concede less then.

Don't see what's so bloody difficult.
 

ItsBoris

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Jan 18, 2011
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Yep good post.

But what was our best goal difference under Redknapp? +26 is the best we had, in his first season, still no where near the top teams (City are close to +60 this season). We need to be scoring WAY more goals than we have before. No reason why we can't though, with astute transfer business.
 

Monkey boy

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Jun 18, 2011
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**makes mental note to bet on the top 4 next November** hope the bookies don't catch on :nailbiting:

Great post by the way :finger:
 

Monkey boy

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Jun 18, 2011
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Yep good post.

But what was our best goal difference under Redknapp? +26 is the best we had, in his first season, still no where near the top teams (City are close to +60 this season). We need to be scoring WAY more goals than we have before. No reason why we can't though, with astute transfer business.

How about if we spend £100 million on attackers? That should do the trick right?
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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Yep good post.

But what was our best goal difference under Redknapp? +26 is the best we had, in his first season, still no where near the top teams (City are close to +60 this season). We need to be scoring WAY more goals than we have before. No reason why we can't though, with astute transfer business.
Even under Redknapp it was never good enough to trouble the title chasers.
Wasn't that +26 a premiership best for us?

@SlunkSoma yes he was. Jol was manager too.
 

Flashspur

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Jul 28, 2012
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Just to be clear, this is not about today's game, not 'AVB out', and not about any individual players.

It's also not a knee jerk.

It's about goal difference.

Check the end of season league tables, and as well as being ranked by points, the table is more or less ranked by goal difference. So what? The interesting thing about GD is that ranking sides by GD is surprisingly consistent from the early stages of the season. Sides in the bottom three, but with a significant positive GD, tend to have risen by the end of the season. The opposite is also true; ie. a team can be flying high early on, but without a commensurate GD, gravity beckons.

Over the course of a season, luck balances out. Wins by the odd goal based on a dodgy decision or a deflected free kick, get balanced by the losses by an odd goal caused by a defender losing his footing or a keeper playing a blinder. Wins by 2,3 etc goals aren't susceptible to luck.

If anybody fancies a friendly fiver that the top 4 come the end of this season won't be Arse, Chelski, Pool, and Citeh. Pm me.

Watching our progress this season as we bounced in and around the top four, our GD has been consistently below the teams around us. We're now 7th on points and 8th on GD. We're now sitting in the league place our performances warrant.

The writing on the wall has been there for longer than this season. We yids don't want to admit what every other fan, pundit and professional was saying last season. Spurs 12/13 was all about Bale. AVB fanbois will claim that it was AVB's brilliance to play a formation that allowed Bale the freedom to score the goals that got us our highest ever points tally. Who knows, they might be right. A statistician might demonstrate that our points tally was simply an inevitable consequence of the relative standard of the teams that gave us those points.

I don't have a particular solution to punt. I'm not qualified to suggest that Ade needs rehabilitating urgently, that Lamela needs game time NOW, that there is no fluidity in our formation (unlike Bale and Azza switching wings at will last season), or that we miss Modric's ability to turn defence into attack in a split second. Maybe our season was defined when we failed to land Benteke.

[Having said that, it was pretty clear that it was easy for Newcastle to double up on Townsend because we did nothing down the left. The thing I've liked most about Lamela, even in the PL games he was slated for, was his involvement across the full width]

But what I can say with absolute certainty is that our play has not adapted or progressed in the last 12 months, and unless it changes radically and dramatically before the Christmas bulge, seventh place is more or less where we'll be come next May. The players from Lloris to Sandro will comfortably win us a point per game over the season. In front of them we have a squad to cream over, but something ain't right and it ain't getting any better.

Apologies for the rant. Two seasons ago I looked forward to every second of football that we played, and I'll admit it, I enjoyed basking in the reflected glory as pundit after pundit waxed over our performances. I'm not enjoying this season much.

I'm off to finish my bottle of Shiraz now. COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mate I'd give more creedance to this post if your name was a little more exotic.....RSmith is a little naff....how about Smithinhio, Smithopolous or Smithalini (y)
 

JerryGarcia

Dark star crashes...
May 18, 2006
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Something the teams that finish above us have over us are settled back fours, we've not had that since King was able to play most league games. All our defenders have had long lay offs this season and it's something I hope the next manager sorts out.
 
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