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It's the Euros 2020! Finals Match Thread: It’s gone to Rome…

Winner Euros 2020

  • England

    Votes: 64 21.6%
  • Belgium

    Votes: 14 4.7%
  • France

    Votes: 98 33.1%
  • Germany

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Italy

    Votes: 81 27.4%
  • Portugal

    Votes: 13 4.4%
  • Netherlands

    Votes: 2 0.7%
  • Other

    Votes: 11 3.7%

  • Total voters
    296

hutchiniho

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Mar 19, 2006
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The sad thing is, Pickford clearly did his homework, he completely sussed out Jorginho. He didn't deserve to be on the losing side.

He was brilliant there and prob our best player tonight
Glad Kane scored. Maguire big balls, clear leader.
The rest was so disappointing. Weak pens, technique and even who went up to take them was wrong.
coming on so late to take a pen must be hard. Saka should never have been near p5. Rashford should be doing better.
 

Romario

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Aug 3, 2019
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My commiserations to England fans but overall I did think Italy deserved the win. Everyone over here was amazed at Southgate's hesitancy in the second half. You could see us getting more and more confident as the game went on and we were all waiting for Grealish to appear and change the momentum back in your favour.

One can only imagine the emotions felt in a penalty shoot out but Sancho and Saka will be inconsolable tonight. Hopefully they will have many happier moments to look back on in the years that lie ahead for them both.
It's been a wonderful tournament and I would like to thank you all for the kindness you have shown this Italian in the pages of this thread. Your footballing knowledge, humour and sense of fair play has been a credit to English supporters everywhere.

Now we can concentrate on Tottenham and getting them back on the right track for next season. Catch up with you all soon.
Ciao
 

Erm33

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May 10, 2019
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Don’t really agree with that, I’d rather have someone who confident stepping up than someone who’s hiding trying no to make eye contact or doesn’t believe in their ability to do the job. Anyway that’s my opinion on it.

Then he can't be seen as an automatic starter if he has that little belief in himself and his ability IMO.

If you shy away from taking one then it's mental weakness, and no top player doubts their ability. Every great player can miss a penalty, but they should always step up when needed.
 

SargeantMeatCurtains

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Jan 5, 2013
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Forgetting the fact that England played 6 games in their home stadium, had an easy group and still managed to draw with Scotland. Then played a crippled Germany, Ukraine and Denmark missing their best player on their way to the final…

In the match tonight, Southgate took off Declan Rice who was our best player bar Shaw instead of Phillips who was awful. Henderson came on and was dreadful.

Left Jack Grealish on the bench until the 99th minute because he was too afraid of conceding.

Took off Trippier, a recognised penalty taker, for Saka who was terrible and missed a penalty.

Left Sterling on the pitch for the entire 120 minutes despite being terrible.

Took off a defender and defensive midfielder for two forwards when we had 5 minutes left and a corner to defend. Both players missed penalties.

Didn’t force Sterling, a senior member of the squad and a so called “leader in the dressing room” to take a penalty and was absolutely fine with letting him throw Saka under the bus instead.

Southgate got absolutely everything wrong in this match. England, who had the second best squad in the competition, had one hand on the trophy when the first ball was kicked against Croatia and he has still failed to deliver.

The FA will now reward his failure with a new contract and we’ll continue to waste the best crop of talent this country has produced in decades.

He’s utterly inept and needs to go. This squad under an actual tactician would win everything.
 
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barry

Bring me Messi
May 22, 2005
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Obviously it's done. But you only have to hear Southgate talk about Euro 96 to know it's a burden.

I don't know what to tell you. He's just got to let it go. It's done. Life's short, carrying a burden, especially one so trivial in the grand scheme, adds nothing. He's gotta be strong.
 

Julmust

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Aug 11, 2014
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I thought the ref tonight was nothing short of abysmal. I can't blame him completely for England's failures, but he certainly didn't help with some of those disgraceful decisions.

As a neutral, the only decision that I found truly wrong was the yellow for Jorginho. Was a clear red for me. Other than that, he was sometimes overly hesitant to call fouls but he was at least somewhat consistent in that regard, and it made the game miles more fun to watch without free kicks being given for players falling down at any slight touch.
 

hutchiniho

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Mar 19, 2006
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No wonder he wants out. Kane cant be the main man. He’s Pippen. He aint no MJ. Aint no winner in there. Just a bottler. Proven it time & time again. In finals he just cant do it

Kane’s pen was perfect. If more of the others could follow that example. Hard into the side netting, we would have won.
Sterling and Mount were really weak tonight, they didn’t give him a kick.
Wingbacks push back meant he didn’t get anything at all second half.
Tonight is not on Kane at all.

Rashford scores his pen and I think that would have been enough. Fine lines
 

jonnyp

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Jun 11, 2006
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It's actually crazy that Donarumma is only 22 years old.

Yeah he has the hairline of a 42 year old.

Anyway, is Southgate actually on a spectrum? Why on earth would you put a 19 year old as 5th pen taker in a final? Also looked like he is a fan of Jose's gameplan of scoring and then sit back - the tactics that worked so well for us this past season.
 
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