Jack Grealish

[Everlasting Seconds]

You don't think we're gonna sign other players?

Think you are missing my point.
No more cheap gambling just because we can, shoving them out the door after 12 months because they don't shine enough. N'ough of all of that.

 

[sammyj]

Worth a shot imo

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Who is this we? We as a club or we as fans? We have developed into a top 3/4 club over the last 4 years and are clearly doing things the right way. We have now created a monster stadium and have a set of players that other top teams want or would be prepared to pay a hefty amount for.

I trust the management - Poch and Levy who in a relatively short period of time have got us to where we are. Poch believes in the project and is seemingly prepared to stick around. Is he patently wrong? He wants to take us further forward by all accounts. He must be onboard with this.

No, we must be bolder, braver, reach higher.
And fill the remaining gaps with kids that are already at the club.
N'ough is N'ough.

 

[mattyspurs]

We were a Europa League club at that point and spent 5mil on Dele. Not 15mil and up and a club coming off three in a row top 3 finishes and a knockout of champions league after outplaying Juventus for the vast majority of the tie. Everyone can point to Dele but who else has this worked for? Those deals are so rare.

Not for this thread so sorry everyone. Robertson has been excellent for The Dippers

 

[Jay78]

I think taking in to consideration Villas slight financial issues we can get this lad at a fairly decent price.

He seems to have grown up a lot and think he would work well under MP.

 

[JayB]

Think you are missing my point.
No more cheap gambling just because we can, shoving them out the door after 12 months because they don't shine enough. N'ough of all of that.

I get that you don't rate Grealish but I think you're misreading this bit of business.

We are in the market specifically for a backup. By definition that is not going to be a top player. If we were turning to bargain basement alternatives for Martial, or for the Dembele replacement, that would be extremely worrying. But in this instance it was always going to be a young talent, and if we can get one who Poch rates for a small fee due to his club's finances then all the better.

 

[tiger666]

No more cheap gambling just because we can, shoving them out the door after 12 months because they don't shine enough.

You wanted Toure for a quid a week yesterday:

Yaya Toure £1/week
He would be a direct upgrade on the weakest player in the squad and is clearly still hungry. I'd completely go for it for 12 months.

 

[GMI]

Very talented lad and worth a punt. However there is something about him that reminds me of David Bentley. Not his playing style but more his attitude and personality. Could see him losing interest in football and opening a club in Ibiza.

 

[Spurrific]

Grealish could be an astute signing if he pulls his socks up (both figuratively and literally)

 

[Bcbud]

Think you are missing my point.
No more cheap gambling just because we can, shoving them out the door after 12 months because they don't shine enough. N'ough of all of that.

I would agree with you if it were to affect us signing our top, marquee targets. Highly doubt it will tho.

 

[werty]

That's pretty much unavoidable though isn't it? With our transfer budget there's no way we can afford what it would take to sign a player who would be good enough to slot in for Eriksen without skipping a beat, just to have that player sit on the bench.

We're in the market for a backup, and buying a young homegrown talent who nearly dragged his team to promotion playing the best football of his life for well below his actual market value fits the bill. I'm not hugely bullish on Grealish as a player but I am bullish on this deal from a business perspective.

While I agree with what you're saying, there's no reason why we can't sign a similar player to Eriksen and not both at the same time. He doesn't need to sit on the bench when Eriksen is fit. We have the budget if you believe what the ITKs are saying. The money we are supposedly ready to spend on Martial could easily get us a player similar to Eriksen that can take the burden from him when both are playing and fill in for him at the same time.

We don't know what he's going to cost yet. I'm fine with the signing him as long as we're getting a good price. I'm always in favour of taking a punt on young players. I just think it doesn't properly address the void if/when Eriksen isn't there.

 

[Streetspur77]

We were a Europa League club at that point and spent 5mil on Dele. Not 15mil and up and a club coming off three in a row top 3 finishes and a knockout of champions league after outplaying Juventus for the vast majority of the tie. Everyone can point to Dele but who else has this worked for? Those deals are so rare.

Kante, mahrez, dele, dier, Robertson, Stones...

There is no correlation between cost and success of a signing, only benefit is appeasing simple minded fans

Scouting and having a place in the managers plans is very important though so as long as that’s the case here I’m happy

 

[rossdapep]

I'm in.

He can beat his man, has excellent spacial awareness, can move across the front line, works hard, can thread a pass and is a very confident individual.

I'd be excited to see what Poch can do with him considering what he's done with Alli, Dier, Kane etc.

He could even operate just behind Eriksen or vice-versa in games where two DMs are redundant.

City have Silva, Silva and De Bruyne sometimes alternating. I think if we had Grealish, Eriksen and Alli buzzing around in them areas with Sonny or Lucas' directness we'd definitely be harder to stop.

 

[dtxspurs]

Kante, mahrez, dele, dier, Robertson, Stones...

There is no correlation between cost and success of a signing, only benefit is appeasing simple minded fans

Scouting and having a place in the managers plans is very important though so as long as that’s the case here I’m happy

Has nothing to do with the price of the player. My opinion is simply we should be aiming higher. We need so few pieces to take this squad to the next level and we are going to hear how we were priced out of deals later on when we spent 15 mil of our budget on a player who likely won't make the bench.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

You wanted Toure for a quid a week yesterday:

Yaya Toure £1/week
He would be a direct upgrade on the weakest player in the squad and is clearly still hungry. I'd completely go for it for 12 months.

I knew if I just pushed you long enough, you'd finally prove beyond doubt for all that the entire purpose for your SC user is to find something and somebody to disagree with. That's all you are after. And you delivered fully ... Sir.

 

[Haddock]

This kid clearly is talented and we're in a desperate need of a playermaker back up. Villa need instant cash flow so Levy will get a good deal. In the greats midst of things yeah I guess it's a 'meh'-signing but at the same time it's a signing with no risk involved - in other words Levy and Pochettino can use their time and resources on the 'wow' targets.

It's a good deal for everyone involved. If Pochettino can get the best out of Grealish - that's great. If not, we still bought him for peanuts and can sell him to Spammers with a profit.

 

[werty]

He's a decent enough creator:

That is a good season. But it's still the Championship and his previous season there wasn't too good. Maybe the switched has flipped and this is his standard now. I'm not sure. I just don't want to go into the season with him as the main back-up to one of our key players. I think we can do better.

That doesn't mean I don't think we should take a gamble on him if the price is right.

 

[tiger666]

That is a good season. But it's still the Championship and his previous season there wasn't too good. Maybe the switched has flipped and this is his standard now. I'm not sure. I just don't want to go into the season with him as the main back-up to one of our key players. I think we can do better.

That doesn't mean I don't think we should take a gamble on him if the price is right.

Well this is it, what is the price. I don't think anyone wants to see us blow £40m on him but if it's a cheap price, I don't see what the problem with the signing is.

 

[werty]

Well this is it, what is the price. I don't think anyone wants to see us blow £40m on him but if it's a cheap price, I don't see what the problem with the signing is.

Neither do I. I just don't want him to be the main back-up to our best creative player.

 

[rossdapep]

Kante, mahrez, dele, dier, Robertson, Stones...

There is no correlation between cost and success of a signing, only benefit is appeasing simple minded fans

Scouting and having a place in the managers plans is very important though so as long as that’s the case here I’m happy

And you could flip it to...

Di Maria, Morata, Bakayoko, Sanchez (so far), Pogba (to an extent), etc, etc - marquee signings that have proven to be a letdown.

It's good to go under the radar and pick up players with high potential, especially players who will probably be even better in a better team. Grealish will be feeding Kane, he'll be playing alongside Eriksen, he'll pick things up, his strengths will improve, so too will his weaknesses. He'll work with a world class coach.

I also, don't see how this will affect other incomings, from the ITK we've had it still sounds like we have room for a 'marquee' signing or a player who could be a game changer. So were improving our squad in many ways and we are being smart about it.