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Jake Livermore

sparx100

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Jan 8, 2007
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He did nothing wrong today. He is not what I would call a match-winner, but he works hard, he moves the ball and he is fairly athletic as well.

People should really give him a chance. Harry clearly see's something in him, so thats good enough for me.
 

mill

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May 21, 2007
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People are perhaps writing him off early, Darren Fletcher was deservedly put on Ebay for 1p by Manc fans yet went on to become a vital player for them in big success' playing in very big games. He's hardly a great footballer by any means but still went on to become an important member of a title and CL winning team, yet who'd be getting excited if he came to Spurs?
 

Dan Yeats

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Jul 12, 2011
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Livermore appears to be on the verge of being SC's new whipping boy.

Like Bale was.
Like Kaboul was.
Like Benny was.
Etc.
 

Kendall

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Feb 8, 2007
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Played a few clever balls today, but to be fair he wasn't tested. For the most part of the time he was on the pitch, it was 0-0 and West Brom were quite happy to concede midfield. It would've been interesting to see what he would've been like during their late pressure.
 

Reado

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He did the job he had to, nothing spectacular. Fed a couple of good balls to feet at the edge of the box and went for the return. A decent athlete too.
 

walworthyid

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Oct 25, 2004
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Some people are just clueless and ignorant, we should be used to it by now. He is the type of player that Fergie has won trophy after trophy with, good solid professionals who are happy to accept a role as a squad player in a successful team.

He did very well today in that he kept the ball moving, positioned himself well and also made a few incisive passes. Even Modric struggled today in that congested midfield without any width.

He is going to seriously struggle for game time when Hudd comes back, but for now I'm happy enough to have him in the matchday squad. He is certainly of far more use than Dos Santos.
 

guy

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May 31, 2007
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He did well today, we certainly missed his athleticism when he went off.
 

gilzeantheking

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Jun 16, 2011
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Some people are just clueless and ignorant, we should be used to it by now. He is the type of player that Fergie has won trophy after trophy with, good solid professionals who are happy to accept a role as a squad player in a successful team.

He did very well today in that he kept the ball moving, positioned himself well and also made a few incisive passes. Even Modric struggled today in that congested midfield without any width.

He is going to seriously struggle for game time when Hudd comes back, but for now I'm happy enough to have him in the matchday squad. He is certainly of far more use than Dos Santos.

:clap::clap::clap:
 

ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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I don't understand any of the criticsm aimed at him to be honest. I don't know what everyone else thinks of him as a player but I don't think he'll greatly improve in the future, I think he'll always just be a fill-in player at Spurs and not much more and with that in mind he doesn't do a lot wrong when he plays.

All I expect him to do is provide fresh legs, plug some of the gaps in our midfield, to work hard and fight for the ball when we don't have it and to just play simple passes to keep possession, nothing adventurous and he normally does just that. I'm fine with that because due to the level of ability I think he has I don't expect much more from him to be honest.
 

3Dnata

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He had a hell of a lot of responsibility in a rather odd formation which was down to injuries and he did very well for a young player.
I think he's improving rapidly maybe against the lesser sides he seemed to think he could take a touch more than he could but he seems to be learning and I wouldn't let him go on loan until we hear positive news about Sandro and Parker.
 

Krafty

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He's a good player, but he obviously isnt in Parker's or Sandro's class. However, Sandro had a bit of a bad game, he didn't seem to get the ball under control and made a couple of bad passes and got caught in possession a couple of times.

Jake came on and looked steadier, but doesn't look quite agile enough to be a holding midfielder. The team as a whole today looked a bit unsure of itself and we didn't have any game plan that someone like Jake could have contributed to.

Ultimately I don't see him staying at the club for ten years, but he is a fine backup and I'm sure he will have a pretty good career for your average footballer.

It would be interesting to see him play 6 months consistently in the PL, just to see if he could improve with regular football and an real understanding with his team setup and team mates
 

#1 Spur

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Done very well today, played excellently, was absolutely solid... until the schoolboy coming together with Younes! Did exactly what was required of him and only misplaced, by my reckoning, no more than a couple passes.

Spread the play, kept possession, drilled a couple into feet that others should've done more with. Was absolutely solid.
 

Mullers

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I will explain this to you carefully, Mullers, even though it has been explained hundreds of times on this forum, already:
O'Hara WAS deemed good enough, but he was absolutelky one hundred percent insistent that he wanted to leave because he insisted one hundred percent that he would only accept very regular first team football - with such emphasis that he pretty much meant first choice.
So far as I am aware, Livermore has never done this.
Therefore, despite repeated appeals by Redknapp for O'Hara to stay and be a very valuable squad member for us, he insisted on pushing through his loans and then his transfer.
How many more times must this be explained :shrug:

O'Hara was good enogh, but would not settle for the bench. Livermore will need to up his game if he wants to be a main stay in the team, but is decent considering he is 6th choice CM. When Hudd comes back however....

O'Hara was deemed good enough and we wanted him as a back up player, but he wanted first team football and insisted on a move.
What you have to appreciate is first team regulars dont want to hang around warming the bench, they want the glory as well as the money, so players like livermore who want to stay are needed. As well as qualifying as home grown players.

I was talking about not deemed good enough by people on this forum not by management. I should have made that clear, my bad.
 

sweyid

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He's kind of bleek, I reckon. Hasn't really shone but hasn't really made any major mistakes IIRC. Had a few good games in the EL and I do think that if he was given the chance in a team like Swansea he'd do well.

He needs game time, but I wouldn't chose him over Sandro, Parker or Hudd.
 

StartingPrice

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Feb 13, 2004
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I was talking about not deemed good enough by people on this forum not by management. I should have made that clear, my bad.

:up:
Anyone on here who didn't think O'Hara would have been good enough to be a squad player for us, clearly has the old our tenth choice isn't functioning properly abd adequate as a member of our squad if he isn't a Pele-Jennings-Beckinbauer-Terminator hybrid, with a bit of the Heston Blumenthal thrown in. And that really is a ridiculous attitude.

Squad players are there to cover for the first choice. Sure, it would be nice if they could push the first choice for the starting place, but, sadly, anyone who is as good as, say VDV, isn't really going to be happy sitting on the bench. Squad players also fall into two categories. Firstly, there are the specialists, a bench needs a goalkeeper, for instance, and a striker. Given that there are only a finite number of bench places, and even more finite number of substitutions that can be made, this makes the second group even more important. And that second group consists of players who are versatile engough to cover more than one place. A versatile defender comes in handy, as does a versatile midfielder. A striker capable of filling in on the flanks is also worth having. Obviously, being squad players, and being versatile, you have to accept a slight reduction in quality.

In the case of O'Hara, he could cover the left-back, and wing positions, and also provide a bit of bite, but also a bit of offensive quality in central midfield - and chip in with some goals. Unfortunately, he wasn't happy being a squad player - but why any Spurs fan would have been unhappy with him being a squad player if he had been prepared to do so, that's beyond me.

I try to be supportive of kids like Livermore. He has a place in the squad IMHO, and is nowhere near as bad as some are making him out to be - in fact I think he is adequate. But I would have been happier having O'Hara on the bench, by a long stretch.
 
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