Jansson out of contract, we want to keep him for what ?

[Spurs_Q8]

We want to keep Oscar Jansson ?

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6983312,00.html

1- Gomes
2- Friedel
3- Cudicini

unless we want to sell Gomes, i can't see him having a future here

think Ramos and his Hans Leitert ( GK coach ) rated him so highly, don't know what happened to his development ?

 

[Andy]

We want to keep Oscar Jansson ?

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6983312,00.html

1- Gomes
2- Friedel
3- Cudicini

unless we want to sell Gomes, i can't see him having a future here

think Ramos and his Hans Leitert ( GK coach ) rated him so highly, don't know what happened to his development ?

with Gomes being 28-29, friedel 40 and Cudicini late thirties, then i can't see why we don't want to keep him, a year out on loan to a championship club, he'll possibly be number 2 at the club next season, he is young and needs to be playing though(ideally not for us atm).

 

[Kendall]

He was good for the Cobblers last season in those few appearances.

Don't see why he wouldn't have a future, two of our three keepers are old enough to be grandparents and the other is a clown who is prone to stretches of shocking form.

Gotta be better than Alnwick and doesn't take up a squad place until next season.

 

[ChristianBaler]

David Button is the better goalkeeper between him and Jansson. Jansson was hardly used while out on loan this past season.

 

[Krafty]

Jansson needs a whole season of competitive football. Keeper is such a tough position to make a break through - even if we got rid of our current top three keepers, Button could come in and own the position and Jansson still wouldn't get a look in.

Ultimately I don't think he will make an impact at Spurs and I can understand why he isnt committing yet.

 

[danielneeds]

I've only ever seen him being put through his paces by the coaches in a warm up at the Lane. He looked too small to be a PL keeper to me...

 

[StartingPrice]

We are gonna swap him for Joe Hart and hope they don't notice:shrug:

 

[DJS]

Do people think David Button will make it then?

I heard he was very promising but didn't he have a bad injury?

 

[Spurs_Q8]

he is 186cm, not that small

Given 186cm, Riena 188cm ..

i don't think Alniwick is better, i think he needs a chance, i trust Ramos judgement on young players.

if you look at the fact he joint Townsend & Rose in Spain camp, instead of Alnwick, Stalteri, Ghaly & Taarabt, then you think Ramos was right about them.

 

[haslemereyid]

I honestly dont know why we bother with trying to bring young goalkeepers through - it takes such a long time to get them in a position to potentially make the team that almost inevitably most teams just go out and buy one that has already been seasoned

Hart is really the only exception and i suspect pre billions citeh would have sold him for the right price (significantly less than what he is worth now in my view) anyway

Its such a key position no-one is going to give a chance to inexperience (apart from wenger and we know how it has turned out for them)
:shrug:

 

[Bill_Oddie]

he is 186cm, not that small

Given 186cm, Riena 188cm ..

i don't think Alniwick is better, i think he needs a chance, i trust Ramos judgement on young players.

if you look at the fact he joint Townsend & Rose in Spain camp, instead of Alnwick, Stalteri, Ghaly & Taarabt, then you think Ramos was right about them.

I think height, or rather lack of it, is one of the things often levelled at Given as why he never quite became the icon most people felt he could have been.

Jansson definitely needs to go out on loan. Maybe even overseas. Would be good if he could have 25-35 games behind him this season. He'll make mistakes so it needs to be somewhere where that doesn't matter so much.

Maybe West Ham? :wink:

 

[scat1620]

I honestly dont know why we bother with trying to bring young goalkeepers through - it takes such a long time to get them in a position to potentially make the team that almost inevitably most teams just go out and buy one that has already been seasoned

Hart is really the only exception and i suspect pre billions citeh would have sold him for the right price (significantly less than what he is worth now in my view) anyway

Its such a key position no-one is going to give a chance to inexperience (apart from wenger and we know how it has turned out for them)
:shrug:

Very much agree with that. Unless you have someone in the Cassillas or Buffon mould - where their quality at a young age is so prodigious and blindingly obvious that only an idiot wouldn't pick them in the first team - then it is very difficult for any club with aspirations of finishing near the top in one of Europe's elite leagues to give young goalkeepers the chance to 'blood themselves' in the first team. Competition at the top of the leagues is so intense that you just can't give a rookie keeper the run of games he will need to eliminate the inevitable early mistakes.

It's not as profitable as bringing your own young talent through, but you have to have a reasonably seasoned goalkeeper playing in your first team just so you don't lose out on those vital points that the inexperience of a young keeper will cost you. That's not to say that a rubbish senior goalkeeper should be playing instead of a talented (but not prodigious) youngster; a rubbish senior goalkeeper shouldn't be playing at all regardless. But the position of a goalkeeper is such a specialist one, and the only position where your team can only have one player on the pitch at any one time, that any learning curve a talented young goalkeeper needs to go through on their journey to greatness is going to hurt your team a lot more than the learning curve for a talented young defender/midfielder/striker.

It's rare for a club to get a total wunderkid like Cassillas or Buffon (and de Gea? I haven't seen him play, so can't judge) come up through the ranks - you only get a handful of those players across the world in a generation - and that's why it's so rare to see top clubs bring through their own keepers from their youth systems: at that end of the game, their inexperience is just a greater short-term cost than the long-term benefit of developing your own player.

 

[chrissivad]

I think height, or rather lack of it, is one of the things often levelled at Given as why he never quite became the icon most people felt he could have been.

while if he was a bit taller it would probably help him, being shorter doesn't mean you cant be a top keeper.

Both Iker Casillas and Víctor Valdés are both shorter than Given, and its not stopped either of them.

 

[double0]

Jansson is the best goal keeping prospect at the club IMO Alnwick is a waste of time button's OK but Jansson for me has the Schemicheal about him.