january window

[Warik]

Quite frankly non of the players are really gonna add much to our team, especially on past perfromances and the players that we already have.

Bentley wouldnt add much from past performances this season, nor Bent, nor Jenas (his good performances have been getting few and far between)

Taarabt is certainly not a player for our current circumstances, but has some potential if this can be developed (no sign yet).

How will he show a sign if he isnt given a chance. How do you know he isnt the sort of player we need right now? Judging from past performances? from past performances in the last year, most of the current squad is shit...

Boateng has looked generally woeful in a spurs shirt, not sure that he is gonna make it in the PL, suspect it was right to try and get rid while he still had some value.

Most Spurs players have looked "generally woeful in a Spurs shirt" in the past year or so. Boateng had a few good games last season, Portsmouth away and Arsenal away, to name two, enough to show he has potential to improve, if given the chance, which he hasnt been. Jol never played him, and Ramos rarely played him, but when he did, he played well.

Ghaly is a poor player, and will add nothing to the team more than o'hara or even zokora does, so again unless we have a major injury list then just don't see it.

Your talking about the same Ghaly who was great against Chelsea in the FA Cup, amongst another string of good performances, despite being played out of position before the Blackburn incident?

Stalteri, doesn't match up to Hutton, Corluka or even Gunter so other than to cover a major injury list, will not be seen.

Corluka is being played more as a centre back lately. Stalteri can also play left back, and seeing Bale's tendency to try get sent off every game lately, and Assou-Ekotto being in general poor, Stalteri could prove useful, plus he would be infinitely better than putting Zokora at right back or Gilberto to left back.

Rocha may be of some use in terms of the Eufa cup, if we have registered him, if we assume king may not play, and that Corluka is cup tied, but again on past performances, not convinced he is much better than Dawson.

He adds depth to a backline that looks shakily thin, with King seemingly unable to play every game, and if Woodgate gets a serious injury (and judging from his past record, personally i feel it is only a matter of time until he does), we are left with Corluka and Dawson, with the backup being who if not Rocha...Zokora?

Certainly don't really agree that our squad looks better, we may have a few more players, but i calss better in terms of being improved, and a few players that we really need to be scraping the barrel to play does not in my opinion mean improvement.

...having added depth to the backline, and some extra steal in the midfield, two areas we are lacking isnt improving the squad? they aren't world class players, but the added depth, especially in our current situation is needed. That coupled with Redknapps uncanny ability at rejuvenating players to their old form they had before joining us, and i'd say it is worth giving all of them a second chance.

 

[VegasII]

I definitely think it'll give the squad a lift - it's reinforcements & competition.

 

[DarT]

Bentley wouldnt add much from past performances this season, nor Bent, nor Jenas (his good performances have been getting few and far between).

Partially true. It is tru that this season they have underperfromed, but some have consistently performed at the highest level. I personally am not a fan of either Bent of Jenas, to me they are lacking, Bent in terms of actual technical ability and Jenas in terms of consistency, but even these 2 have performed at a higher level than the five.

How will he show a sign if he isnt given a chance. How do you know he isnt the sort of player we need right now? Judging from past performances? from past performances in the last year, most of the current squad is shit....

Sorry, but to be fair, we have seen Taarabt on a number of occasions when brought on as a sub, and whilst he does have ability he has a lot to learn with regards teamworking, and someone who cannot maximise the team is not needed when we are in the shit. Show ponies are good but not in our current situation.

Most Spurs players have looked "generally woeful in a Spurs shirt" in the past year or so. Boateng had a few good games last season, Portsmouth away and Arsenal away, to name two, enough to show he has potential to improve, if given the chance, which he hasnt been. Jol never played him, and Ramos rarely played him, but when he did, he played well..

I must have missed the games you mention, all the times i have watched him, he has worked fairly hard, but achieved very little. To me whilst i agree he could add some bite to our lacklustre midfield, he lacks real quality and will never make a good player.

Your talking about the same Ghaly who was great against Chelsea in the FA Cup, amongst another string of good performances, despite being played out of position before the Blackburn incident? .

This is the same ghaly who continually gives the ball away and runs into dead ends and brick walls. Surely we have enough of those in Lennon and Jenas, who actually do have more quality even if they do not show it often enough. Again i don't dispute that they should be given squad numbers and be used if they can add to a certain situation, but don't try and convince me that any of them are gonna become quality PL players, because they won't while ever they have a certain hole in that certain place.

Corluka is being played more as a centre back lately. Stalteri can also play left back, and seeing Bale's tendency to try get sent off every game lately, and Assou-Ekotto being in general poor, Stalteri could prove useful, plus he would be infinitely better than putting Zokora at right back or Gilberto to left back..

Possibly true. Personally i am no fan of Zokora, but if he was to play for me it would be at fullback, certainly i agree that Gilberto must have come in on a fake passport, cos he can't possibly have been in the Brazil squid unless it was to bring out the oranges.

He adds depth to a backline that looks shakily thin, with King seemingly unable to play every game, and if Woodgate gets a serious injury (and judging from his past record, personally i feel it is only a matter of time until he does), we are left with Corluka and Dawson, with the backup being who if not Rocha...Zokora?.

As i said earlier if we have enough injuries or to play in the Eufa cup, i can see Rocha being some benefit.

...having added depth to the backline, and some extra steal in the midfield, two areas we are lacking isnt improving the squad? they aren't world class players, but the added depth, especially in our current situation is needed. That coupled with Redknapps uncanny ability at rejuvenating players to their old form they had before joining us, and i'd say it is worth giving all of them a second chance.

This is all about him having the ability to use our assets before the window opens, so yes you could say they have a second chance, although i doubt it really.

Personally i am not convinced that any of them ever had "old form" that was actually that good, so would suggest that he would need to be a miracle worker to make them into quality players.

Lets be honest he has done the right thing in giving them numbers, certainly he should see what they are about first hand rather than from other coaches or in the press, but none of them are going to convince he that they have either the quality or consistency to dig us out of this hole, let alone take us to the next level.

 

[ohh_when_the_spurs]

___________gomes________________

hutton____king(corluka)____woodgate___o'hara

bentley___diarra_____modric____bale

_______defoe_____pavlyuchenko

4 4 fucking 2...maybe another big bastad to boss the middle

 

[mil1lion]

The players in my sig would be great. Toulalan, Arshavin and Defoe. And a young centre back like Michael Mancienne.

 

[MkYid]

___________gomes________________

hutton____king(corluka)____woodgate___o'hara

bentley___diarra_____modric____bale

_______defoe_____pavlyuchenko

4 4 fucking 2...maybe another big bastad to boss the middle

You do know Bale is a left back & O'Hara is a midfielder? Bale can play on the wing but is better overlapping from fullback & I'd rather have Justin Edinburgh back in our back line than have O'Hara there constantly

 

[joey55]

The players in my sig would be great. Toulalan, Arshavin and Defoe. And a young centre back like Michael Mancienne.

I agree with Defoe and Arshavin, but theink Toulalan is a bit limited. He's too much of a holding player for my liking. I hope we'll play 442 and in that case, i think we need CMs for more of an allround game. If we played with a 433 or 4231 and 451, then I'd agree he's a good choice.

 

[SpursMad]

No Funds in January

"I spoke to the chairman and there's not going to be an awful lot of money around in January and I think it's going to be a tight transfer window because of the recession which has hit the country," Redknapp said.
"We'll have to look around for a couple of bargains like everybody else."


Taken from teamtalk (http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1784_4422493,00.html)


Whatever happened to the 70 million pound war chest we had at our disposal from the sales of our best players? I thought we were going to splash the cash in January. Mr. Levy is a deceitful guy, it seems.

 

[joey55]

If we had money (which we do) then it would be better to let people think we don't.

 

[SpursMad]

If we had money (which we do) then it would be better to let people think we don't.

Yeah, I agree. But anyone with half a brain would know that we sold two players for 50 million pounds thus we have funds to play with.

I think a better way of looking at it would be that clubs will think they shouldn't sell right now due to the lack of funds so they wouldn't be able to maximize their sell on value.

 

[ggibbs1971]

We can not buy Defoe till the summer. I found this on another site: "A Premier League spokesman said: “It is written in section L19 of the Premier League rules that a club which transfers or cancels the registration of a player may not apply to register that player within a year."

 

[joey55]

We can not buy Defoe till the summer. I found this on another site: "A Premier League spokesman said: “It is written in section L19 of the Premier League rules that a club which transfers or cancels the registration of a player may not apply to register that player within a year."

This wont mean anything. We aren't trying to abuse the loan system, so the FA would let the deal go ahead. So whilst the rule is in place, I don't think they will try to enforce it, as we aren't doing what the FA are trying to prevent by having the rule in the first place.

 

[Banjo]

I doubt Portsmouth will want to sell any players to us unless they have to, i.e. if we offer them crazy money. I think Redknapp has more nouse than to just go for the same players over and over. I expect him to look at our squad in depth over the next few weeks figure out how he wants us to play and then go out and get functional players that can fill in the gaps, rather than stars.

Got to agree, Harry needs to assess the squad - including the 'lost ones' and go from there. At the moment we need some solid EPL proven talent to support our skill players. I'd go for Diarra, Dunne and Defoe!

Not the time for fancy dan fantasy football!

 

[thetallaghttiger]

"I spoke to the chairman and there's not going to be an awful lot of money around in January and I think it's going to be a tight transfer window because of the recession which has hit the country," Redknapp said.
"We'll have to look around for a couple of bargains like everybody else."


Taken from teamtalk (http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1784_4422493,00.html)


Whatever happened to the 70 million pound war chest we had at our disposal from the sales of our best players? I thought we were going to splash the cash in January. Mr. Levy is a deceitful guy, it seems.

jesus, any chance to get a dig in at Levy! :roll:

If we had money (which we do) then it would be better to let people think we don't.

Of course this is more likely to be the situation!

I don't think we'll be spending anything near £50million but as it seems we learned at the end of August, teams are asking us to pay higher fee's as we are a 'well-off' club.

It's only right to down play the situation, well done Harry again on doing this! :clap:

 

[SpursMad]

jesus, any chance to get a dig in at Levy! :roll:

Well, if the shoe fits. This latest episode and re-shuffle of the deck is just another incident in a long series of events that stop the progress of the club. Levy has been the only consistent piece of the puzzle. Thus there is every right to criticize.

In this specific incident, we have long been told or led to believe that the Berbatov windfall would be invested back in the 1st team squad. Now it seems that isn't the case. So why is it not okay to criticize Levy for this??

 

[thetallaghttiger]

Well, if the shoe fits. This latest episode and re-shuffle of the deck is just another incident in a long series of events that stop the progress of the club. Levy has been the only consistent piece of the puzzle. Thus there is every right to criticize.

In this specific incident, we have long been told or led to believe that the Berbatov windfall would be invested back in the 1st team squad. Now it seems that isn't the case. So why is it not okay to criticize Levy for this??

And where specifically and exactly has it been said that it would not be invested back into the club?!

 

[SpursMad]

And where specifically and exactly has it been said that it would not be invested back into the club?!

This is going to sound less than water tight, but we (as Spurs Community members) were told by numerous sources (ITK or not) that the fee for Berbatov was merely accumulating interest until it was spent in January.

Not to mention, we still need a top drawer striker so we will need to spend,

 

[spurwithsparkle]

arshavin is over rated imo zenit will demand a big cash deal whick we wont pay!

i dont expect millions to be spent in the window!
maybe a couple of loan deals tho

 

[southlondonyiddo]

N'Zogbia/Diarra/Arshavin please.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

I would like a proper left back. I have wanted us to sign Diarra since he was leaving chelsea. Would still like him. I also like the suggestion of Toulalan. I think he would bring something to the team/squad that we don't have in any shape or form. A real DM with leadership qualities. I would also still like Arshavin.

I was guted we wasted 16m on Bent, especially as I knew it would mean the departure of Defoe. I have always accepted that defoe was flawed in some ways but his gpm was slightly better than Bents and couldn't understand why we would pay 16m for a worse player than we already had in our squad.

But, and there is a but, Defoe only makes sense played next to the right man. He needs a crouch/Kanoute type. A big hold upmguy who'll do all the work and leave him to get the glory. I'm not sure Pavlyuchenko is that guy. I think he is more a shearer/lead the line type No.9. who can hold it up a bit but likes to be attacking crosses and getting into the 6 yard box himself.

I'd like us to still play an attacking 451 sometimes and there is no way Defoe can be the "1".

So if we can find a striker who will compliment him, then good and well. If not then I'm not sure we wouldn't end up with the same dilema as before. If Defoe was happy with that then I would be happy having him back in the squad. Would swap him for Bent tomorrow.

Wonder if Peckhart might be a good foil for Defoe ?