Jay Rodriguez

[sloth]

Just did a Squawka comparison between him, Sturridge, Aguero, Welbeck and Walcott. Unsurprisingly the obvious two beat him on total performance score, but not by much on the attack score. In order: Sturridge 972, Aguero 838.51, Rod 755.76, Welbeck 390, Walcott 258.

Anyway that wasn't what I was really coming on to write about, what stood out was the number of tackles and passes he made compared to those others, basically 39 tackled won compared to the next best Welbeck with 15, which shows how Poch really got his front three working as the first line of defence, and used the press then tackle as the first part of the attack. His passing total passing was 728, compared to Sturridge 740, but then the third best was Welbeck on 522, but then the forward passes were 368, with Sturridge on 345, and Welbeck in third 236, which perhaps hints at a slightly deeper playing position, but also perhaps Poch's desire to get forward wuickly in the final third, also explains why his completion stats are not so good as some of the others; not possession for its own sake, but possession with a purpose.

Anyway, seems like he plays the way Poch wants and perhaps not all players would be able to so well which maybe puts a bit of meat on the bone of why Poch wants him?

 

[Kendall]

I appreciate this, but again I'm still not convinced this advantage will work for us and our needs. Unless we find a way to prevent teams from compacting the box against us, and they've done this against us since before AVB, I'm still not quite certain it can work to our advantage nor is it a reason to overlook other targets.

Who in your opinion could counteract a compacted box? If, like you say, it was an issue pre-AVB, in the days when we had the world's most expensive player and one of the best CMs in the world in our side?

 

[Kendall]

Just did a Squawka comparison between him, Sturridge, Aguero, Welbeck and Walcott. Unsurprisingly the obvious two beat him on total performance score, but not by much on the attack score. In order: Sturridge 972, Aguero 838.51, Rod 755.76, Welbeck 390, Walcott 258.

Anyway that wasn't what I was really coming on to write about, what stood out was the number of tackles and passes he made compared to those others, basically 39 tackled won compared to the next best Welbeck with 15, which shows how Poch really got his front three working as the first line of defence, and used the press then tackle as the first part of the attack. His passing total passing was 728, compared to Sturridge 740, but then the third best was Welbeck on 522, but then the forward passes were 368, with Sturridge on 345, and Welbeck in third 236, which perhaps hints at a slightly deeper playing position, but also perhaps Poch's desire to get forward wuickly in the final third, also explains why his completion stats are not so good as some of the others; not possession for its own sake, but possession with a purpose.

Anyway, seems like he plays the way Poch wants and perhaps not all players would be able to so well which maybe puts a bit of meat on the bone of why Poch wants him?

He puts himself about a bit, that's for sure. He runs all day. With a new, high tempo pressing game, Poch is bound to want at least a couple of players he knows can pull it off and are already well drilled.

 

[Spurrific]

Not a real account.

The same little dweeb has a fake account for loads of Spurs affiliated people. Got Marlon Wayans following his Ledley King one - such a fucking loser

 

[nedley]

"Welcome to Spurs Jay"

"We'll nurse you though this injury with the finest facilities and professionals on hand"

"Our club doctor will be out any second"

 

[TickleSh1ts]

I am very indifferent about this man.

I would now say I would rather this transfer did not take place as of his serious injury, that changes players. We may be paying extortionate amounts for a player who will never return to his former self (and will be 25 as of tomorrow).

I would feel a lot happier purchasing a young upcoming player on the cheap that we can develop.

Just them feelins!

 

[DaSpurs]

This is a completely fair point, I think that J-Rod is probably better in a setup for against a team who don't defend as deep having said we don't know how Poch will use him, if he's looking for a technician to play in small space maybe he'd want to deploy Chadli or even Ceballos against the compact teams, that doesn't mean that it's a player we don't need because he is...Too early to speculate at the moment though.

Yeah I entirely agree, but my problem is Chadli has yet to suggest he's the kind that can maneuver through a packed box either, as he much prefers cutting across the box to shoot or going to the byline to cross with not much in-between, and we have no genuine idea of Ceballos is up to the scruff of the Prem. I really don't think he can be relied upon in those situations. So I regret to say, but I still have my hesitations on this move.

 

[DaSpurs]

Who in your opinion could counteract a compacted box? If, like you say, it was an issue pre-AVB, in the days when we had the world's most expensive player and one of the best CMs in the world in our side?

I know this sounds "flavor of the month" and "fanboy" as I've already received the full spectrum of condescending remarks on my view of the guy, but to me Konoplyanka would be a fantastic addition. People often slate his versatility in comparison to others due to not also playing striker, but aside from positional versatility it's his skillset versatility that makes him so impressive and desirable for me.

He has pace to beat his man, ambidexterity to remain unpredictable and open up more options, dribbling ability to maneuver through tight spaces, vision to find his other attacking players at speed and at a still (due to compatness), and shooting ability from range. These traits would not only allow him to better our left wing position, but I think allow him to thrive in Poch's rotational system among the forwards. Sure, I think Griezmann would have been optimal for this, but I think Kono would yet do exceptionally.

 

[Shadydan]

Yeah I entirely agree, but my problem is Chadli has yet to suggest he's the kind that can maneuver through a packed box either, as he much prefers cutting across the box to shoot or going to the byline to cross with not much in-between, and we have no genuine idea of Ceballos is up to the scruff of the Prem. I really don't think he can be relied upon in those situations. So I regret to say, but I still have my hesitations on this move.

Fair enough, Lamela, Soldado and Eriksen have the technical ability and the brains to play against a packed defence, as long as we have a couple of those on the field especially with them interchanging I don't think it will be a huge problem. I don't think you need 4 technical players to play across the front line to penetrate a deep defence. It really comes down to what they have upstairs rather than what kind of ability they possess at their feet

 

[DaSpurs]

Fair enough, Lamela, Soldado and Eriksen have the technical ability and the brains to play against a packed defence, as long as we have a couple of those on the field especially with them interchanging I don't think it will be a huge problem. I don't think you need 4 technical players to play across the front line to penetrate a deep defence. It really comes down to what they have upstairs rather than what kind of ability they possess at their feet

I hope you're right man, as I especially agree on you saying having the quality upstairs can be far more important than the quality in the feet. Who knows what's to come, but I can assure you I would certainly love to be wrong in this regard.

Thanks to all though who contributed with answering my question. Some great points listed out, and I appreciate you guys fuckin me up with some truth without getting all uppity over it. Good stuff fellas.

 

[bobbof]

I guess our blood spinning-practice will work wonders on his knee. Just wondering, are all the clubs in the PL doing this, or is it just us?

 

[Mouse!]

We have to remember that what a player does without the ball is as important as what he does on the ball, perhaps more so, given that the majority of his time on the pitch will be spent without the ball at his feet.

Rodriguez hassles, makes runs, drags defenders, and generally has fantastic off-the-ball play.

When you have players like Eriksen and Lamela who are supremely talented with the ball at their feet, you benefit from having a player like Rodriguez who gives those players options and space when in possession, through great movement.

That's not to say Lamela and Eriksen don't have good off-the-ball movement in their own right, which they do.

 

[Lufti]

I guess our blood spinning-practice will work wonders on his knee. Just wondering, are all the clubs in the PL doing this, or is it just us?

Well everyone will be now you've just posted that Way to go 'bobbof'

 

[spursfan77]

Just seen this on twitter. Posted a couple of weeks ago on YouTube. Rodriguez cycling on a bike about 25/30 seconds in.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=l_iJyAcJyww

 

[Barry Mead]

Well lets look at the positives, two players we (I think) all agree had excellent seasons last season, two players who are wanted by CL qualified clubs if we believe the rumours, two players who would prefer to continue working for their old manager than have CL football again if you believe the rumours and a manager keen on bringing both to join him
That actually counts for a lot imo, but -and here's assuming Rodriguez recovers well, what's the worst they bring, excellent work rate, both well balanced, they both pass and tackle well given their roles, seemingly team players-they work for the team rather than themselves, they know what Poch wants. Hardly the worst players we could sign, sure I'd have loved Griezmann, I'd love Pjanic in midfield and could name others but they aren't knocking our door down to sign, sounds like these guys are really keen
As for Rodriguez ability against tight defences, one thing that carves openings is when players can link up and play short sharp accurate passes to others finding space. Looking at his on the ball skills he looks decent enough passing wise and vision wise to make the passes and with enough stamina and awareness to find the spaces. I can imagine having the likes of Lamela, Eriksen and Soldado around then he should find things a lot easier. A good passing game always relies on the player making the run and finding space as well as the player seeing and playing the pass

 

[danielneeds]

He puts himself about a bit, that's for sure. He runs all day. With a new, high tempo pressing game, Poch is bound to want at least a couple of players he knows can pull it off and are already well drilled.

I think also a lot of the time with the high press there is one guy who sparks it off for a team, when team-mates see his work-rate others up theirs. With Saints, Schneiderlin said it was Lambert, with Liverpool it obviously was Suarez.

Now Adebayor, Eriksen, Lamela aren't noted for their tenacity, so it could be that Poch thinks J-Rod could be the spark that would help to get others going.

 

[sloth]

I think also a lot of the time with the high press there is one guy who sparks it off for a team, when team-mates see his work-rate others up theirs. With Saints, Schneiderlin said it was Lambert, with Liverpool it obviously was Suarez.

Now Adebayor, Eriksen, Lamela aren't noted for their tenacity, so it could be that Poch thinks J-Rod could be the spark that would help to get others going.

Funnily enough it's what concerns me about Townsend... I know, I know, on the face of it the bigger concern should be his lack of end product, but I'm more optimistic that will improve than I am his attitude to off the ball work; he just doesn't seem to have the fire in his belly to put in a shift and keep putting one in.

 

[LiamJM10]

Not an accountant, then...

Well if we sign him for 27m and sell Sandro for 15m, we've spent a net 12m.

Don't need to be an accountant to be able to count.

 

[davidofkane]

Has anyone got an idea of the price for J Rod? I got no idea. Could be £10 mil could be £20mil? I have yet to see any quoted prices in the media of from ITK

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Happy Birthday!