Jenas praises former boss Ramos

[jamesc0le]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7768468.stm


wholly agree with him too:-|

 

[sim0n]

Jenas has been shocking in the 1st half of the spammer game. He should get the hook at halftime. Venting here until the match thread is re-opened after the match. I'm sure his praise of Ramos is spine tingling, but JJ is pants...:bang:

 

[AberdeenSpurs]

I agree with you Simon, Jenas is average at best.

 

[nuttynoah]

I agree with you Simon, Jenas has been pants

 

[milkman]

Please try and keep on topic guys!

I was sad to see Ramos leave, but I knew he had to go.. But I do believe that Ramos did leave with a mark, he certainly made our players fitter and more physical..

 

[AberdeenSpurs]

Please try and keep on topic guys!

I was sad to see Ramos leave, but I knew he had to go.. But I do believe that Ramos did leave with a mark, he certainly made our players fitter and more physical..

And he made the team into a shambles.

 

[jamesc0le]

its funny how over rated players like bent and bentley couldn't put the boot into ramos quick enough.. could you say the same for relatively succesful players like lennon, jenas , ohara? (oh yes what a goal)

 

[SpurSince57]

Jenas is too nice a guy to lay into a shit manager.

 

[Kendall]

I don't know, he has comented before about how Souness stunted his development as a player when he replaced Robson at the toon.

 

[SlickMongoose]

I don't know, he has comented before about how Souness stunted his development as a player when he replaced Robson at the toon.

Yeah, but however bad Ramos was, at least he wasn't Souness.....

 

[Rackybear]

Bah. Ramos is a GOOD manager, his record at spurs wont prove that. I just think things did not fall into place for him at this club and a combination of events were the result of our poor form. Things just didnt work out.

Give him a new club and spring of life and he'll work his magic.

Ramos will get far as a manager.

 

[arnoldlayne]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/7768468.stm


wholly agree with him too:-|

Oi!!

I've just logged on to post that!!

Jenas praises former boss Ramos

Jenas enjoyed playing under Ramos at White Hart Lane

Tottenham midfielder Jermaine Jenas has praised former manager Juande Ramos.
Ramos was sacked in October after Spurs picked up just two points from their opening eight games - the club's worst ever start to a league season.
But Jenas told BBC London 94.9: "When Juande was here he was having a lot of bad luck. I can't say enough about him, how good he is.
"I spoke to him after he left about how disappointed I was to see him go, but at the same time you have to move on."
Spurs were bottom of the table when Ramos was axed along with assistant boss Gus Poyet, coach Marcos Alvarez and sporting director Damien Comolli.
Harry Redknapp was installed as manager at White Hart Lane less than 24 hours later.
Jenas said: "Sometimes in football these things happen. Obviously a new manager coming in lifted the whole place and along with that we got a few results and I think the whole thing combined just gave the club a big lift.
"He (Redknapp) has been fantastic for us and he's given everybody a lift around the club.
"Along with that, we've had a lot of good results as well which have helped the situation, so its been enjoyable working with him.
"I've always wondered what it would be like to work under him and now i'm getting to experience it."
Jermaine Jenas spoke to BBC London 94.9 at the new Tottenham Hotspur Foundation project, Kick and Cook.

 

[AngerManagement]

I think Ramos is a good manager and I am sure he will go on to find futher success elsewhere.

Things were simply not right for him at Spurs, he struggled with the language, could not adapt to our game, I assume he simply tried to manage us as if we were a Spanish team and it turns out these skills are not directly transferable, he needed to change his approach and learn how to convey his ideas and show his talents in the English game.

Who knows maybe it was just the wrong club at the wrong time for him, or perhaps his style of management is simply not suited to the English game and Englsih mentality.

To an extent I think we also bought into the hype, a good manager I have no doubt he is, however we were sold a tactical genius who was a magical combination of Wenger/Fergie/Jose that he was not.

His record at Sevilla was amazing, to what extent this was down to him I now am not so sure. I think those who disregard what he did there and suggest it was the DOF who was really behind the success do Ramos a diservice, he clearly did a good job there. Maybe in reality his job was aided greatly by the DOF's eye for talent.

I think ultimately there were series of events that made Ramos regin at Spurs a failure, Berbatov and Keane rocking the boat surely did nothing for moral, his inability to learn English and thus lack of man management skills to the squad left us in disharmony and lacking real motivation and leadership.

I think that Ramos had to go, I was sad to see him leave but the fact was we were rock bottom and looked like going nowhere. The start to this season was amoungst the worst football I have ever seen Spurs play (and being a 90's Spurs fan that is saying something)

I honestly don't feel things would have turned around quick enough had Ramos still been incharge and I think right now we would still have been deep in the relegation zone, so the decision to replace him though regretable (as I had high hopes for his regin as coach) was surely the only option we had.

I'm not one for looking back, like I said many times before the King is dead long live the King. Let's all just give Harry the time to do his thing and see what he is capable of, hopefully the poison chalice that is the Spurs hot seat will finally prove to be the right fit for a would be top manager (lord knows we have seen many not quite make it or straight up fail in recent years)

 

[Rackybear]

I think Ramos is a good manager and I am sure he will go on to find futher success elsewhere.

Things were simply not right for him at Spurs, he struggled with the language, could not adapt to our game, I assume he simply tried to manage us as if we were a Spanish team and it turns out these skills are not directly transferable, he needed to change his approach and learn how to convey his ideas and show his talents in the English game.

Who knows maybe it was just the wrong club at the wrong time for him, or perhaps his style of management is simply not suited to the English game and Englsih mentality.

To an extent I think we also bought into the hype, a good manager I have no doubt he is, however we were sold a tactical genius who was a magical combination of Wenger/Fergie/Jose that he was not.

His record at Sevilla was amazing, to what extent this was down to him I now am not so sure. I think those who disregard what he did there and suggest it was the DOF who was really behind the success do Ramos a diservice, he clearly did a good job there. Maybe in reality his job was aided greatly by the DOF's eye for talent.

I think ultimately there were series of events that made Ramos regin at Spurs a failure, Berbatov and Keane rocking the boat surely did nothing for moral, his inability to learn English and thus lack of man management skills to the squad left us in disharmony and lacking real motivation and leadership.

I think that Ramos had to go, I was sad to see him leave but the fact was we were rock bottom and looked like going nowhere. The start to this season was amoungst the worst football I have ever seen Spurs play (and being a 90's Spurs fan that is saying something)

I honestly don't feel things would have turned around quick enough had Ramos still been incharge and I think right now we would still have been deep in the relegation zone, so the decision to replace him though regretable (as I had high hopes for his regin as coach) was surely the only option we had.

I'm not one for looking back, like I said many times before the King is dead long live the King. Let's all just give Harry the time to do his thing and see what he is capable of, hopefully the poison chalice that is the Spurs hot seat will finally prove to be the right fit for a would be top manager (lord knows we have seen many not quite make it or straight up fail in recent years)

:clap: Top post, totally agree with it all 100%

 

[Zammo]

JJ came on leaps and bounds when Ramos first took over. It was a remarkable difference.
It's good to see a player come out and thank Ramos for what he did for them on a personal level. Too many players have been quick to put the boot in when they should be looking at themselves.

I bet Jamie O'Hara has a debt of thanks for Ramos. Wasn't he still at Millwall under Jol?

 

[CosmicHotspur]

Players need direct and regular communication and encouragement from their manager. How can a manager who needs an interpreter to discuss what's happening with his players when things aren't going right expect continued success? That was what was lacking.

Harry has communication skills in spades and that's what's making such a difference.

 

[JonnySpurs]

JJ came on leaps and bounds when Ramos first took over. It was a remarkable difference.
It's good to see a player come out and thank Ramos for what he did for them on a personal level. Too many players have been quick to put the boot in when they should be looking at themselves.

I bet Jamie O'Hara has a debt of thanks for Ramos. Wasn't he still at Millwall under Jol?

Well said, there is nothing wrong with showin a bit of love to Ramos as long as you then follow it with the same for Harry. Fair play to Jenas, he's said nothing wrong there imo.

He was incredibly frustrating at times last night but he worked hard and still did a few good things....I just wish he'd realise his potential and find some more consistency in his game.

 

[DC_Boy]

nice words from JJ - well said

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

Good to see some of our squad have some class.