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StartingPrice

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Think you can say with 100% certainty that we're all delighted we got VDV instead of Cole. This is a given surely?

In my first post in this thread on the subject that was my first line:roll: Go back and check if you want.

It doesn't, one iota, justify claiming that VDV lplaying well proves that Cole would have been a failure at WHL...that is just, quite frankly, FCUKing stupid, and making statements like this which you feel folk will be forced to agree with doesn't influence that one iota.

Don't you get this: it is impossible to make any comment on how Joe Cole wuold have performed in a Spurs shirt in any factual way bcause he never signed for us. Simple. Really, it is. And, if this is true, as it undoubtedly is, it just makes it even more nonsensical to try to claim that VDV being a success proves that he would have been a failure:bang: It is even possible to say that VDV has been a success, and even if Joe Cole had signed he would have been less of a success - but that still means he could have been a success (even a bloody big one, given the impact VDV has had).
 

ethanedwards

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Nov 24, 2006
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You mentioned two things. I specifically indicated what I was drawing attention to, and why.

But I am not arguing he WOULD have been a success at WHL, the most I would ever say is IM MY OPINION I think he would have been. So why is that point relevant. I am drawing attention to the wholly fatuous connection some are making between us getting VDV and not Joe Cole, with the impressive form of VDV and an assertion that that somehow proves that Cole would have been a failure (which they are doing to justify their OPINION that he wouldn't have been a success as though it were somehow objective fact).

By the same reasoning, if Rafael van der Vaart were (really) any good, wouldn't he still be plying his trade at Real Madric:shrug:
Calm down. I have never mentioned VDV in this thread and never compared him to Cole. I don't buy the hype surrounding Cole, just glad the scousers wasted their money. I am sorry if my criticism of him has affected you in anyway. Nothing personal.:violin:
 

whitelightwhiteheat

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In my first post in this thread on the subject that was my first line:roll: Go back and check if you want.

It doesn't, one iota, justify claiming that VDV lplaying well proves that Cole would have been a failure at WHL...that is just, quite frankly, FCUKing stupid, and making statements like this which you feel folk will be forced to agree with doesn't influence that one iota.

Don't you get this: it is impossible to make any comment on how Joe Cole wuold have performed in a Spurs shirt in any factual way bcause he never signed for us. Simple. Really, it is. And, if this is true, as it undoubtedly is, it just makes it even more nonsensical to try to claim that VDV being a success proves that he would have been a failure:bang: It is even possible to say that VDV has been a success, and even if Joe Cole had signed he would have been less of a success - but that still means he could have been a success (even a bloody big one, given the impact VDV has had).

Personally I couldn't care less if Joe Cole would have been a success now. The facts of the matter stand at this: He picked Liverpool over us. For financial reasons. 95,000 reasons per week. That's what Joe Cole is all about, and for that he can kiss my hairy arse.

I'm just delighted we didn't sign him. That's another fact. Joe Cole is no where near the player van der Vaart is.
 

StartingPrice

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Calm down. I have never mentioned VDV in this thread and never compared him to Cole. I don't buy the hype surrounding Cole, just glad the scousers wasted their money. I am sorry if my criticism of him has affected you in anyway. Nothing personal.:violin:

But the post I was responding to, and quoteddid...and you answered to that 'as though' Ihad been responding to one of your posts (which doesn't make much sense).
I'm perfectly calm.

Personally I couldn't care less if Joe Cole would have been a success now. The facts of the matter stand at this: He picked Liverpool over us. For financial reasons. 95,000 reasons per week. That's what Joe Cole is all about, and for that he can kiss my hairy arse.

I'm just delighted we didn't sign him. That's another fact. Joe Cole is no where near the player van der Vaart is.

Which is absolutely fine. And if (AGAIN) I refer you to my original post on this subject you will see that my first line was that I am glad we didn't sign him as we got VDV.
But, (ala my response to Ethan, above,) I was responding to someone who attempted to use the fact that VDV has been a success as proof that Joe Cole would't have been - which is plainly stupid. Do you understand that that was the only point I was making? And, if yes, why have you even bothered responding to any of my posts:shrug:

So, essentially, you have again reiterated something I myself said at the outset as though it were somthing I needed you to establish for me, even though I have already pointed out that that was my attitude to (if a little less virulently), in a pervious post.

Strange person:-|
 

rpate1

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chelski ruined this player and think it was the best he signed for liverpool as it proves. VDV all the way nothing fancy just simple touches which JC will never have.
 
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