Jose Mourinho

[Thewobbler]

No point in him leaving now, the damage is done. The only thing that can make this season worse is kane out for the remainder and arsenal finishing above us.

When he does go I hope he and the players say what the problems were and how it went so wrong so quick.

 

[Davo99]

It’s funny, all this talk of how negative he is, how defensive etc., yet scoring goals is not really our issue. Our defence making individual errors and conceding goals seems to be our main problem. Perhaps that’s why Jose line ups are so defensive? Our defence still finds ways of conceding goals regardless of how we try and help/protect them though, unfortunately.

If we do get a new manager, will people still feel like we need a new defence, or do people genuinely believe just a change of manager will do the trick defensively? I suppose the reason I ask is, what’s the point of sacking him for a new boss if we aren’t going to change the defence? And if the plan is to change the defenders because they aren’t good enough, then why sack him? Why not get him good defenders instead?

 

[fortworthspur]

I'm at the point now of not offering criticism to any players. We know the ones who are letting us down (Sissoko, Winks, Dier, etc)

But It's the players who looked great in the early days that are showing Jose up.

Reguillon, Bergwijn, Lo Celso all came in looking great and like we'd done well to get them, slowly they've gotten worse over time or have been binned off. Why is that?

Ndombele has shown flashes but is prone to drops in form. Again, whose fault is that?

We all know.

sissoko?

 

[Robhotspur]

It’s funny, all this talk of how negative he is, how defensive etc., yet scoring goals is not really our issue. Our defence making individual errors and conceding goals seems to be our main problem. Perhaps that’s why Jose line ups are so defensive? Our defence still finds ways of conceding goals regardless of how we try and help/protect them though, unfortunately.

If we do get a new manager, will people still feel like we need a new defence, or do people genuinely believe just a change of manager will do the trick defensively? I suppose the reason I ask is, what’s the point of sacking him for a new boss if we aren’t going to change the defence? And if the plan is to change the defenders because they aren’t good enough, then why sack him? Why not get him good defenders instead?

I agree with the point of the defenders, but I don't believe it let's mourinho off the hook. I do feel for mourinho, over the months I've even come to like him as a person. I admire his beliefs and reasoning but it ends there. If spurs can bring in joachim Anderson from Fulham. Vesterweld Southampton and skrinriar under a dynamic manager like bielsa or nagelsman spurs would be in the best position they've been in to date.. Fluidity is I think the most obvious indicator of a teams standing, they're worth and ability. Tottenhams fluidity is like watching a soiled diaper slowly leak down a hairy leg... Just not good enough or acceptable.

 

[Davo99]

I'm at the point now of not offering criticism to any players. We know the ones who are letting us down (Sissoko, Winks, Dier, etc)

But It's the players who looked great in the early days that are showing Jose up.

Reguillon, Bergwijn, Lo Celso all came in looking great and like we'd done well to get them, slowly they've gotten worse over time or have been binned off. Why is that?

Ndombele has shown flashes but is prone to drops in form. Again, whose fault is that?

We all know.

I disagree. Reguilon is a good attacking full back who’s form has dipped a bit. Bergwijn I don’t think came in looking great. He started off OK, but he’s been poor for the majority of the season and hasn’t shown much at all.

Lo Celso has been riddled with injuries from day 1. How can you blame Ndombeles poor attitude, application and lack of consistency on anyone else apart from Ndombele? He, like Bale, struggled to even get match fit. That’s the bare minimum we should expect from players under contract.

 

[Robhotspur]

I disagree. Reguilon is a good attacking full back who’s form has dipped a bit. Bergwijn I don’t think came in looking great. He started off OK, but he’s been poor for the majority of the season and hasn’t shown much at all.

Lo Celso has been riddled with injuries from day 1. How can you blame Ndombeles poor attitude, application and lack of consistency on anyone else apart from Ndombele? He, like Bale, struggled to even get match fit. That’s the bare minimum we should expect from players under contract.

I agree with reguillon.. A great player.. Possibly his worst game for us tonight.. It happens.. Quality player tho and generally consistent.. I just feel Ndombele, bale, alli, bergwyn, its like mourinho is waging a one man war against the team.. As if he can just change whoever and however many players he needs too.. Spurs aren't in a position to do that and now son is off the boil, does he go to war with son.. Mourinho has just pissed off the whole piggin team and a bad vibe in the camp brings down any team, whoever they are.. There are now too many good players for this to be a coincidence. Mourinho is at war with the whole team.

 

[cliff jones]

It’s funny, all this talk of how negative he is, how defensive etc., yet scoring goals is not really our issue. Our defence making individual errors and conceding goals seems to be our main problem. Perhaps that’s why Jose line ups are so defensive? Our defence still finds ways of conceding goals regardless of how we try and help/protect them though, unfortunately.

If we do get a new manager, will people still feel like we need a new defence, or do people genuinely believe just a change of manager will do the trick defensively? I suppose the reason I ask is, what’s the point of sacking him for a new boss if we aren’t going to change the defence? And if the plan is to change the defenders because they aren’t good enough, then why sack him? Why not get him good defenders instead?

He bought three defenders and a dm in the summer, and is responsible for the collective dynamic and organisation. It’s his job to help them improve tactically, positionally and technically.

His selections are baffling, going with 3 again suddenly last night when DCL was obviously out, then going with Dier at LB later on. Like v United, the mids didn’t appear to know what they were trying to do in terms of picking up. Working out the opposition tactically is supposed to be one of his biggest strengths?

But on top of that it’s the sitting back, inviting pressure, when he and the whole world can see we’re gonna crack, that’s his fundamental flaw. But there are no attacking intentions, or patterns, they look like they just make it up- it just doesn’t flow.

He’s had his day, with mega resources, it’s time for a change.

And yes the new man needs an RB and a CB, and Dier a one way ticket to Newcastle

 

[Robhotspur]

Bielsa, the new manager and raphinia from Leeds.. Andersen, Vesterweld and skrinriar with rodon, tanganga and reguillon in defence..bring sessegnon back Sell sissoko, winks, dier, aurier, sanchez, Keep the rest of the team and we win the league..with a few tweaks. Maxim from Newcastle.. Grealish would be asking too much but how good would grealish be at spurs. We are so close to success yet so close to disaster.. Yes I'm quite sure of it, bielsa would win us the league, I accept all doubts to this statement .

 

[hamsup_sotong]

just bear with it lads. it's not worth the grief. Hope that the stars align for the final. lmao if we do win it.. maybe baldy has a cheeky bet on it. and it pays for joses dismissal. Spurs on pens!!!! COYS

 

[Gb160]

Levy texting HR ?
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Jesus that TV looks dangerous.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

At this point, we need Al Pacino to do the team talk...

I’d take a very dead Al Capone at this point

 

[hellava_tough]

just bear with it lads. it's not worth the grief. Hope that the stars align for the final. lmao if we do win it.. maybe baldy has a cheeky bet on it. and it pays for joses dismissal. Spurs on pens!!!! COYS

Unlikely, although I know that's basically what you're saying.

I was watching the highlights from the '08 final a few days ago and the thing that struck me were the 'charaacters' that we had in that team.

Keane, Berbatov, Woodgate, King, Jenas...even the likes of Teemu Taino and Zokora (who always seemed to play with confidence and a smile on his face, even when he was skying it into Row-Z).

That Chelsea side should have beaten us on the day, but we had a group of players willing to 'give it a go' on the off-chance that Chelsea found themselves managed by a bit of a no-hoper manager. And as it turned out, on the day they were managed by a bit of a no-hoper manager in Avram Grant.

Our current team, however, doesn't have the same characters, despite the talent levels being higher than the '08 squad, and seem to look somewhere between going through the motions and terrified when they step onto a football pitch.

To be honest, I can see us conceding early in the final and crumbling as our players see the season end in front of their eyes. It could be a bit of a mauling if I'm honest.

 

[Thewobbler]

I don't feel sorry for jose. If we don't win the cup then his time here will be a failure. If he gets sacked then it won't take him long to start dishing out the blame.

Last night was our last chance at top 4 against a struggling Everton and his team selection was pathetic. Should have been attack minded with bale, son and kane.

 

[GutBucket]

We are now experimental ground for his next job, maybe we see 8-0-2 formation next time. Probably the only way he keeps it interesting, at least that hour before the match.

 

[ardiles]

He will nullify De Bruyne next week.

After seeing us play recently, Pep wouldn’t need his best players to win the Carabao Cup. He’d probably rest / start on the bench, his best players against us.

He’d prefer to save his players for the CL SFs.

 

[ardiles]

had nothing to do with Sissoko. I know folks like to blame him for everything but he was far from our worst player today. Tanguy and Reggie shared that honor, with Sonny close behind.

We know Sissoko’s limits as a football player . It’s not directly about the player but more so about him being selected to play in this game, and much worse, in the starting eleven and playing the full game.

I’d rather see GLC, a player who works hard and is always looking for the ball, rather that Sissoko , who tries to hide away whenever he can.

When you have better players playing next to you, it gives you more confidence and your performances improve. I don’t blame the other players for having poor games when they see players like Sissoko, Doherty and one or two others being in the side.

 

[bubble07]

No point in him leaving now, the damage is done. The only thing that can make this season worse is kane out for the remainder and arsenal finishing above us.

When he does go I hope he and the players say what the problems were and how it went so wrong so quick.

The scum winning the europa is the killer

 

[nedley]

Fair enough . With the exception of man city , west ham maybe Leicester but only sometimes I would say there’s not to many teams I would say play exciting football this season.

Everything is drab right now , but do you honestly think if mourinho was properly backed like he was at Chelsea he would fail here

Do you know how much money he spent at Utd?

 

[spursfan77]

Any other club and I might agree with you. However, it's us. That shit just doesn't happen here.

Yep. We are utterly rudderless.

 

[spursfan77]

I'm at the point now of not offering criticism to any players. We know the ones who are letting us down (Sissoko, Winks, Dier, etc)

But It's the players who looked great in the early days that are showing Jose up.

Reguillon, Bergwijn, Lo Celso all came in looking great and like we'd done well to get them, slowly they've gotten worse over time or have been binned off. Why is that?

Ndombele has shown flashes but is prone to drops in form. Again, whose fault is that?

We all know.

Yeah it’s getting patently obvious what’s happening. It’s all been said before though. He should have been out the door weeks ago but for whatever reason he’s still here. If he isn’t gone on the Monday after the league cup final (if/when we lose) then it really it will be time to panic because it means he’s here till the summer and the season is lost or worse.