Jose Mourinho

[WinksyBoy]

Lost 5 from the last 6 PL games.

Levy needs to pull the trigger and pull it quick. Certainly before the Burnley game.

 

[13VanDerBale13]

Unless a magic turnaround happen, Mourinho has to go. I do think we should wait until the summer though.

It will be way too toxic to last until then

 

[HedgieSpur]

Daniel Levy has to accept the appointment of Jose hasn’t worked & therefore swallow his pride & sack him, I’d love DL to sack himself but that’s sadly never happening, any manager that continues to pick Sanchez & Dier over Toby & Rodon needs to go, I’ll take anyone bar Rafa on an interim until the end of the season & then I’d like to see us appoint Scott Parker

I was with you until you said Scott fucking Parker.

 

[Cochise]

Would we be any more patient if we had anyone but Jose in place?

I ask this in all honesty. This thread was started with a questionaire at the top where only 50% were really happy with the appointment, a vocal group were foretelling his failure from the beginning and have been dragging this place down with every negative result.

I'm not gonna throw myself in front of a bullet for the man but when a vocal part of the fan base have been gunning for him since day 1 it pisses me off.

If he goes in the next few days I know there will be celebrations in here, people glad that we've failed. It's spectacular that we have fans like this who would rather see us fall apart just to be proven right all along about Jose.

Fuck knows if they'll be happy with whoever gets put in. Nobody save Nagelsman or Guardiola will do and even if they get 80m to re-invest in a couple of CB's it won't prove Jose right at all.

 

[C0YS]

So they were hard to break down and hit teams on the break, that's pretty good. Vardy broke that record for consecutive games scored in didn't he?

What a season that was, not even we could catch them. That game that we lost (2-0?) was a tough one, no matter what we tried they were too difficult to break down. Huth and ... I forget his name, what a pairing that was.

Huth and Morgan. It wasn't that good a paring, I mean we had a better defensive record than them. It was effective, but largely because of the midfield in front of them. As I said, Leicesters strength came from the speed of transition with pace more than defensive solidity. They have some similarities to how we played early in the season, but nothing like how we tackled the big teams, even when we were doing well, and nothing like when our form dropped off. We lost 1-0 to a Huth header from a corner, it was a bit of a smash and grab and we were wasteful in front of goal, made a lot of chances, we smashed them in the FA cup a few weeks later I recall.

Vardy scoring consecutive goals is fine, but he was one of three key players, and probably the least important of those three. Kante was more important, stopped teams breaking through midfield, would win the ball early and release the front 4 early. I mean if we could replicate that brilliant. But while earlier it looked like we hit on something quite effective, for most of Mourinho's reign we have been playing both boring and ineffective football.

 

[Beni]

I didn’t say every single player had changed. Just that it’s not the same group. About half of the squad has changed. There’s been a turn around of about 24 people.

But the same players making the same mistakes or putting in the same sub par performances, which is the point that’s been made.

 

[OPModric]

It will be way too toxic to last until then

I think it's a better chance to take the right decision then. I'm afraid of what happens if we let Mourinho go and we become worse or equally bad. Then the whole club will look like a joke and maybe it will be harder to attract the coach and players we want.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Would we be any more patient if we had anyone but Jose in place?

I ask this in all honesty. This thread was started with a questionaire at the top where only 50% were really happy with the appointment, a vocal group were foretelling his failure from the beginning and have been dragging this place down with every negative result.

I'm not gonna throw myself in front of a bullet for the man but when a vocal part of the fan base have been gunning for him since day 1 it pisses me off.

If he goes in the next few days I know there will be celebrations in here, people glad that we've failed. It's spectacular that we have fans like this who would rather see us fall apart just to be proven right all along about Jose.

Fuck knows if they'll be happy with whoever gets put in. Nobody save Nagelsman or Guardiola will do and even if they get 80m to re-invest in a couple of CB's it won't prove Jose right at all.

Really think this idea that fans want us to fail to be proven right is a bit of a strawman argument.

Yes there might be a minority who are like that, but most of what I see are people who were not convinced about the appointment to start with and are just reiterating what they said before.

Genuinely, what has he done in almost 80 games to make the doubters think any differently?

 

[C0YS]

I understand your point but if you put yourself in his shoes....he's been called a has-been, a dinosaur since the day he took the job. When he's won he's been pretty magnanimous in crediting the players. But when we lose and he's again having his methods questioned. Would you not also defend your position?

Journalists are absolutely right to ask that question. Because something clearly isn't working. It's an awkward question, but he's paid a lot of money to work for this club and he could be tact about it, and treat it professionally rather than trying to assert his ego. Which frankly, comes across badly, childishly even.

Well, either I could do a Guardiola and respond with 'maybe I'm not good enough for Man City' response, though that's sort of also playing with journalists asking kind of unanswerable questions as well. Or, what I would do, which is say we believe in our methods and we believe we can turn this around and work to a positive conclusion. Something generic and boring like that. I honestly don't care that much, because its Mourinho being Mourinho, but it's not professional and it's not a good answer. Asserting that you have confidence in your methods is fine, asserting that you have the best methods, feels like shifting responsibility and a bit delusional.

Privately though a manager should be questioning their methods at this point.

 

[kaz Hirai]

Would we be any more patient if we had anyone but Jose in place?

I ask this in all honesty. This thread was started with a questionaire at the top where only 50% were really happy with the appointment, a vocal group were foretelling his failure from the beginning and have been dragging this place down with every negative result.

I'm not gonna throw myself in front of a bullet for the man but when a vocal part of the fan base have been gunning for him since day 1 it pisses me off.

If he goes in the next few days I know there will be celebrations in here, people glad that we've failed. It's spectacular that we have fans like this who would rather see us fall apart just to be proven right all along about Jose.

Fuck knows if they'll be happy with whoever gets put in. Nobody save Nagelsman or Guardiola will do and even if they get 80m to re-invest in a couple of CB's it won't prove Jose right at all.

Mid table with this squad, 8 games lost, terrible football, no signs of improvement since taking over, player alienation, on huge money, getting out performed by the likes of West ham, Everton and Fulham

 

[sidford]

I will say that whilst Jose is categorically not getting the best out of this squad, any replacement would need a clear out.

Think we need a new keeper, a competent right back, at least two centre backs, probably another left back, two central midfielders, and at least two more attacking players assuming Bale and Vinny dont stay.

So whilst I think Jose is awful...like really really awful...I also agree with those that say we will need significant investment in the squad itself.

That sums it perfectly for me. We need a huge rebuild which has been evident for a long time but José has done nothing to show that he's the best man for this sort of strategy. He has never done it before so why would we trust him for the inevitable next stage.

 

[Styopa]

But the same players making the same mistakes or putting in the same sub par performances, which is the point that’s been made.

That’s true, in fact many of them have got even worse under Mourinho.

But also half of them don’t play regularly anymore because we bought other players to take their place.

Problem is even with the new players we seem at best to be treading water and at worst are showing dangerous signs of going backwards from where we started with Mourinho.

Incidentally even if we got rid of all of the players that were here pre-Mourinho, criticism would soon turn to Doherty, Bergwijn, Bale or whoever. If we’re losing games and not playing well it will always be possible to lay all the blame on the players if that is the way one chooses to see it.

 

[Typical Spurs]

I haven't looked for an argument, why you weighing in for?

Hahaha. This response says it all.

I didn't mention any

I haven't looked for an argument, why you weighing in for?

Hi mate. I never mentioned your name.

However, the fact you've instantly recognised yourself in response to my post says it all really.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Going into the first Liverpool game we were top 12 games in. In the 12 following games we have won 3, drawn 2 and lost 7. Had we started the season with these results we'd have been behind Arsenal when they were at their lowest.

We have lost 5 of the last 6.

I fully agree there are some weak links in our squad but you can't tell me a squad with the talent of ours shouldn't be doing better than that. I'm not saying title contention because those frailties would still be there but at least in the top 4 hunt.

West Ham, Everton, Villa are all above us. None of these teams have world class players in defensive positions.

The manager has to be ultimately responsible and he has to go. His win ratio is way below par, and he arguably has two of the best forwards in the league playing for him.

I felt we were a little unlucky today but it's just not enough, especially when he comes out after the game saying he thinks his coaching team is the best in the world and there are some things you can't fix. That's such BS on both counts.

I genuinely think keeping him on now is simply delaying the inevitable and doing more long term damage to us in the process.

 

[DelBoyN17]

I was with you until you said Scott fucking Parker.

Why? Got Fulham promoted in his first season, after a difficult start to life in the premiership he’s now got Fulham playing good football & will keep them up, whilst also putting his trust in young players, also former spurs player who was very well thought of at the club whilst coaching in our youth set up before leaving for the Fulham job !!

Also let’s be honest who really knew much about Poch before he took over & look how that worked out??

Weve tried the serial winner appointment in Jose & how’s that worked out, exactly??

Scott Parker in my opinion will be a shrewd appointment & after the shit we are currently witnessing it’ll be a perfect time to take over, similar to Ole at Utd

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Hahaha. This response says it all.

I didn't mention any


Hi mate. I never mentioned your name.

However, the fact you've instantly recognised yourself in response to my post says it all really.

Troll all you want

 

[fortworthspur]

Would we be any more patient if we had anyone but Jose in place?

I ask this in all honesty. This thread was started with a questionaire at the top where only 50% were really happy with the appointment, a vocal group were foretelling his failure from the beginning and have been dragging this place down with every negative result.

I'm not gonna throw myself in front of a bullet for the man but when a vocal part of the fan base have been gunning for him since day 1 it pisses me off.

If he goes in the next few days I know there will be celebrations in here, people glad that we've failed. It's spectacular that we have fans like this who would rather see us fall apart just to be proven right all along about Jose.

Fuck knows if they'll be happy with whoever gets put in. Nobody save Nagelsman or Guardiola will do and even if they get 80m to re-invest in a couple of CB's it won't prove Jose right at all.

5 losses in 6 gets any manager fired unless he has a ton of credit in the bank. I think Levy will put it off as long as he can to decrease the buy-out and hope for a cup win.

 

[fishhhandaricecake]

Players peak at different points. Pointing to good performances 3 years ago is as useful as pointing to them 15 years ago.

 

[king_yid]

So how many of the following fixtures would it take to say goodbye to the old chap?

 

[Rosco1984]

how disappointing I vented my anger at full time and then come back 5 hours later at least hoping for some ITK that its being considered and all I get is Jose telling me his methods are second to none.... well look at the talent available to both teams today Jose your methods are definitely second to at least David fucking Moyes!!!!! At least have some humility.