Juan to Villareal made permanent

[Spursmatty87]

He really isn’t the answer for us. Even in the Europa he had to be taken off after a promising start he was beginning to make mistakes. He’ll have a decent career but let’s not act like we’ve just let peak Ledley King go.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Good luck to him, I liked him but always likely to lose the ball through trying to overplay in dangerous areas. Worked well 4 times out of 5 but that mistake the 5th time is always likely to cost you a goal due to where he plays on the pitch.

Was targeted by teams as they knew he had a mistake in him and judging by the Argentina game on Wednesday where he tried to dribble out of defence in the 94th min while 2-1 up shows that he hasn't leant any lessons on that side. There's a time and a place, sometimes it's ok to boot it into row z

Boys playing in the wrong place. A shame @thinktank isn't on here anymore, as we always agreed he would be a very good DCM with an eye for getting forward. Still, that error side of his game could be coached out. I still think he's a good player and well regret it. All the best to the lad.

 

[sebo_sek]

I'm sure he will be very good for Villarreal, but I have a suspicion that, like Kieran Trippier, he is better suited to be a defensive star in Spanish football than to huff and puff in English football.

I disagree. He didn't look out of his depth against the english runner up.

 

[eViL]

Another Daniel Levy masterclass ?

Looks like we're about to go into the Euros without a manager as well. What a mess!

You can't blame Levy for not playing him.

And we're not in the Euros. We're a club.

 

[ralphs bald spot]

Another Daniel Levy masterclass ?

Looks like we're about to go into the Euros without a manager as well. What a mess!

have we qualified for the Euros great I wasn't that interested but now I know Spurs are in it even without a manager I shall go and get me scarrf

 

[Japhet]

Stupid to let him go. He won't peak for a good few years yet but he could have been coached into a very decent defender or DM. He'd have got slaughtered in Mourinho's daft 'sit deep and let them have the ball' bullshit, but in a team that actually wanted to play football he'd be a nice asset. You can coach the mistakes out but you can't coach the natural ability he had on the ball. Good luck to him anyway.

 

[Trix]

Stupid to let him go. He won't peak for a good few years yet but he could have been coached into a very decent defender or DM. He'd have got slaughtered in Mourinho's daft 'sit deep and let them have the ball' bullshit, but in a team that actually wanted to play football he'd be a nice asset. You can coach the mistakes out but you can't coach the natural ability he had on the ball. Good luck to him anyway.

We need to sell that is a fact. The squad and especially the foreign quota has been an issue for a while. I know we all want certain players out but there's no way they all go in one window. Foyth may have shown glimpses of quality but he's no world beater. We have Rodon and Tanganga as young CB's can we really accommodate and give enough game time to 3?

Wish him well for the future, but this makes a lot of sense and it's at least one out the door.

 

[Japhet]

We need to sell that is a fact. The squad and especially the foreign quota has been an issue for a while. I know we all want certain players out but there's no way they all go in one window. Foyth may have shown glimpses of quality but he's no world beater. We have Rodon and Tanganga as young CB's can we really accommodate and give enough game time to 3?

Wish him well for the future, but this makes a lot of sense and it's at least one out the door.

I take your point but I still think Foyth has a great future ahead of him and it will make selling him for 15m look very bad. He should have been tried at DM too in my opinion which makes him a much more versatile player than Rodon or Tanganga. Anyway, water under the bridge and all that.

 

[Springerding]

It didn't work out for him with us, we have moved him on.

It's amazing people want us to sell the deadwood... But not this one or that one...

Glad he has found a team where he can get games

It depends what you want to call deadwood, a 30+ Sissoko who cant pass & got a free ride from Jose because he has the dressing room or a young, hungry player that's bossed it at Villareal in every position he's been asked to play, yes he has an error in him but what he brings is determination, fight, passion etc & thats what most of our squad is missing.
If some do consider he is deadwood I'm sure they would agree he's worth a lot more than 13m.

 

[CrazyHeart]

Disappointing that we didn't make more of his talents and he was probably worth a few mil more than that.

BUT.... **searches for positives, finds one**

At least it's churn. Money in the bank. He was wasting away for us and it's the first of the 'sell to buy' squad players to go.

Hopefully we aren't waiting all summer for the exit of the rest....:

Lamela
Aurier
Winks
Dier
Sissoko

Must be 45m in that lot surely

I wouldn't put Lamela in with that motley crew... that guy is pure class and has had more consistent performances than most, including Son (who dropped off the map the whole second half of the season). Lamela is the super sub and game changer we need and has some real magic in his boots and I believe we should keep him.

 

[barry]

I liked the kid but he was never gonna be the next Maldini. Good luck to the lad

 

[bigspurs]

I wouldn't put Lamela in with that motley crew... that guy is pure class and has had more consistent performances than most, including Son (who dropped off the map the whole second half of the season). Lamela is the super sub and game changer we need and has some real magic in his boots and I believe we should keep him.

Ah Lamela, the enigma within an enigma, within an enigma. I’ve never been able to properly make up my mind about him. Can’t fault his attitude and work rate, but I’m still not really sure where exactly he fits into our side. There are probably about 8 players that I would sell before him though, that’s for sure. Worth another season just for that goal against Arse!

 

[dontcallme]

I wouldn't put Lamela in with that motley crew... that guy is pure class and has had more consistent performances than most, including Son (who dropped off the map the whole second half of the season). Lamela is the super sub and game changer we need and has some real magic in his boots and I believe we should keep him.

I like Lamela but for various reasons he has never performed consistently for us in the 8 seasons he has been here.

We need to bring in new players an we'd rather sell the players not playing regularly ahead of anyone else.

A transfer fee and saving the £80k a week salary he is on would be helpful to us.

 

[Locotoro]

We have too many non HG players and too many squad players. If you're keeping a player to develop then I'd prefer it was Tanganga who has a higher ceiling for Premiership football in my opinion.

 

[CrazyHeart]

I like Lamela but for various reasons he has never performed consistently for us in the 8 seasons he has been here.

We need to bring in new players an we'd rather sell the players not playing regularly ahead of anyone else.

A transfer fee and saving the £80k a week salary he is on would be helpful to us.

Fair point, but to put him in the same list as Sissoko, Dier and Winks is just dastardly. I wouldn't say that he's been inconsistent for the eight years either... Rather, it's been an upward trajectory that's peaked out in the last two seasons to the standard we need (with the crazy surprises here and there, like the Rabona goal). But hey, that's just one guy's opinion...

 

[dontcallme]

Fair point, but to put him in the same list as Sissoko, Dier and Winks is just dastardly. I wouldn't say that he's been inconsistent for the eight years either... Rather, it's been an upward trajectory that's peaked out in the last two seasons to the standard we need (with the crazy surprises here and there, like the Rabona goal). But hey, that's just one guy's opinion...

I certainly agree that he's not on the same level as Sissoko, Winks and Dier.

I didn't say he is inconsistent. I am saying he hasn't played in more than 25 games a season in the last 5 seasons. If by now he isn't getting in the team consistently and has a clear role then it is time for him to move on.

 

[Mark_147]

I could be wrong but I think sometimes when a player is at a club too long having never played they'll need a fresh start.

You’re right but we signed him when he was 19 so he should of been loaned out the following season when we realised he wasn't ready, which is exactly what we did with sessegnon at exactly the same age.

 

[dontcallme]

You’re right but we signed him when he was 19 so he should of been loaned out the following season when we realised he wasn't ready, which is exactly what we did with sessegnon at exactly the same age.

Absolutely. I said earlier in the thread Poch fucked up his development by not loaning him out or playing him.

He's played almost as many games for Argentina as league games for us.

 

[tevezito]

Since I live in Argentina, I've always had a soft spot for Juan, and am always willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and side with those who think we shouldn't have agreed this deal, but at the same time he was completely to blame for Argentina not beating Colombia in World Cup qualifying the other day for first of all playing out of defence loosely and then being beaten all ends up by the attacker scoring a headed goal in the 95th minute. So while I clicked on disagree to David Matzdorf's post a minute ago I completely understand where the naysayers are coming from. The believers can hope all these mistakes can be coached out of him but surely it shouldn't have taken this long to do so?

 

[coysjod]

Another?? Who else did Pochettino stunt in your opinion because I'm struggling to think of anyone.

KWP?