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Juande Ramos ready to dismantle Tottenham - from Telegraph.co.uk

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By Martin Smith

There were few smiles on the faces of the Tottenham players as they trooped through Eindhoven airport yesterday morning before catching their chartered flight back to Stansted. An early exit from the Uefa Cup was one thing, the fact that it may have been the last time many of them fly together quite another.

Juande Ramos will have spent the flight contemplating the fact that the Uefa Cup will not sit on his mantelpiece for a third year; he will also have studied the grim faces around him and considered who will be with him next season.

Only last week Ramos was saying that the present squad had three months to show their strengths if they hoped to stay. Since then they have been characteristically erratic: losing at home to PSV Eindhoven, thrashing West Ham, and showing considerable fortitude in fighting back against the Dutch champions. Ramos, though, demands greater consistency,

The comings and goings at Tottenham in the summer could be unprecedented: Ramos is likely to dismantle the side who won the Carling Cup, but for whom the season effectively ended with Wednesday's departure from Europe, albeit after a penalty shoot-out.

Chief among those going out of the door could be Dimitar Berbatov. Another season in the Uefa Cup is unlikely to appeal to a player who, at 27, will want the opportunity to play in the Champions League.

Another overture from long-time admirer Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United might break his resistance. Besides, he has outgrown some distinctly ordinary team-mates at Spurs, and needs to perform with players more attuned to his quick thought processes.

Paul Robinson will almost certainly leave, given Tottenham's reported links with other goalkeepers, most notably Carlos Kameni at Espanyol, and the fact that Ramos was prepared to drop Robinson for 10 games after Christmas in favour of Radek Cerny. Robinson will not want to languish on the bench at a time when he is attempting to reclaim his England place.

Spurs will also try and recoup as much as possible of the £16?million overspend on Darren Bent, who has not only failed to recapture his Ipswich and Charlton form, but has looked nowhere near capable of disrupting the Keane-Berbatov partnership up front. Pascal Chimbonda will already have seen the writing on the wall with the arrival of Alan Hutton in his favoured right-back position.

Hutton, along with Robbie Keane, Jonathan Woodgate, Jermaine Jenas and Ledley King, will form the basis of Ramos' squad for next season.

The pressure, though, is on Damien Comolli, Tottenham's director of football, to identify potential transfer targets who will meet Ramos' approval. Most of players mentioned on the rumour grapevine are based in his home country of Spain, and include defenders Daniel Jarque (Espanyol) and Cata Diaz (Getafe), midfielder Esteban Granero (Real Madrid) and striker Diego Milito (Real Zaragoza).

There is still a degree of confidence within the dressing room, according to Ledley King yesterday. "For us to win something [the Carling Cup] means the season will still go down as a positive year for us," he said. "Now we have the taste of winning, we believe we can go on and do more. We've learnt and we'll come back next year a stronger and better team."

Although any recruitment cannot begin until the summer transfer window opens, the ground work for the 2008-09 campaign is already taking shape. "The target for us now is that we keep improving," Gus Poyet, Ramos' assistant, said, "and that means we have to win as many games as possible between now and the end of the season. We're going to start building for next season starting at Manchester City on Sunday."


i'm not a fan of the article and don't think it's too well written. however, it seems to be one of a number of articles talking about a squad overhaul during the summer so i thought i'd put it up
 

BorisTM

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This article is rubish. Berbatov was in CL, he played there for 2 seasons if i remember corectly, he even played a final against Real Madrid.
 

nidge

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This article is rubish. Berbatov was in CL, he played there for 2 seasons if i remember corectly, he even played a final against Real Madrid.

Yes he was but, I also believe that he wants to play at the highest club level he can and if he doesn't believe that we will get there next year he may ask to leave.
 

SpurSince57

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Just speculation, based on supposition and no real evidence. And we'll see a whole lot more of it in the coming months.
 

BoringOldFan

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Hutton, along with Robbie Keane, Jonathan Woodgate, Jermaine Jenas and Ledley King, will form the basis of Ramos' squad for next season.

Ledley King? We'll never get more than half a season out of him again, will we? Bad news for the JJ haters as well. Despite what the writer thinks, it's imperative we keep Berbatov and I think we will.

But overall it suggests the kind of wholesale change that we've seen so many times in our Premier League years. In the past it's been followed by the inevitably "settling in" period, at the end of which many are cleared out and the whole process starts again. Only King and Keane remain from four years ago.

I hope it's different this time.
 

SpurSince57

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You see, BOF, this is the great advantage of having a Sporting Director. It ensures continuity when a change of manager/coach comes about.
 

BoringOldFan

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You see, BOF, this is the great advantage of having a Sporting Director. It ensures continuity when a change of manager/coach comes about.


Of course how silly of me. I suppose it would be impertinent to bring up the fact that every player that Frank Arnesen signed has left the club? As well as Arnesen himself? But there is consistency there, if not continuity.
 

nidge

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You see, BOF, this is the great advantage of having a Sporting Director. It ensures continuity when a change of manager/coach comes about.

:lol: You got there before me with that comment.
 

spurs4europe

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You see, BOF, this is the great advantage of having a Sporting Director. It ensures continuity when a change of manager/coach comes about.

:lol:

i was just thinking about that.

this is where it pays to have to have a top DoF to really assemble his own team.

but i think we would all trust JR to make fairly astute acquisitions having seen the targets mentioned, although i am still a bit worried that he might not invest wisely given it is his first summer with all his extra power he has due to an increased say on transfers.
spanish coaches just don't tend to be used to choosing and buying players themselves: benitez hasn't done too well overall in the transfer market
 

Stoof

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You see, BOF, this is the great advantage of having a Sporting Director. It ensures continuity when a change of manager/coach comes about.

:lol:

Damn. Beat me to it. I love this new definition of 'stability'. It obviously goes well with the THFC definition of the phrase "we won't comment on any speculation", and "we'll announce stadium plans soon".
 

johnmc

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Pure speculation by a journalist who has to fill some space. Anyone could have written that article. We all know there will be some coming and goings. That happens every season with most clubs now. Wholesale changes, surely not. I can see four or five coming in, but not all first team certainties. Perhaps more going out than coming in.
 

BoringOldFan

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This thread has more irony than... something with a lot of irony in it. Tower Bridge?

There's a similar article in the Grauniad today, with the following tipped to leave:

Robinson
Cerny
Chimbonda
Kaboul
Rocha
Lee
Assou-Ekotto
Stalteri
Gardner
Lennon
Bent

The 'keepers' are Keane, Woodgate, Hutton, King, Jenas, Huddlestone and Berbatov.
 

michaelden

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Well If Berbs goes I hope it's to Juve. Maybe we can get Trezeguet as part exchange?
 

michaelden

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There's a similar article in the Grauniad today, with the following tipped to leave:

Robinson
Cerny
Chimbonda
Kaboul
Rocha
Lee
Assou-Ekotto
Stalteri
Gardner
Lennon
Bent

The 'keepers' are Keane, Woodgate, Hutton, King, Jenas, Huddlestone and Berbatov.

I would be surprised if we sell the guys in bold.

Lennon is too good.
BAE has been injured and should be coming back.
Bent and Kaboul have hardly had a chance to shine.
 

CrazyG2

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Trezeguet:shrug:, everytime i've seen him paly for club or country he's been shit, one of the most over rated players in the world.
 

haxman

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Well If Berbs goes I hope it's to Juve. Maybe we can get Trezeguet as part exchange?

Agree that if he leaves it should be to another league. If he goes to another Prem team it just strengthens them and makes our job more difficult. But I think Trezeguet is a bad call. You have to wonder would he settle in to the English game. Not so sure. There are better candidates for a swap deal out there, but tbh I'd rather Berbs didn't leave at all. He's that good. Good example was Wednesday night, I'm not sure any other of our squad could've got that goal (maybe Robbie). Coolness personified.
 
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