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Tonio

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Penalise Goalkeepers for wasting time. Adopt a timer as in American Football which give the keeper a set amount of seconds to kick/throw the ball.
Penalise cheating when players feign injury to waste time, likewise when players tactically foul to stop counter attacks etc. Both should attract yellow cards and subsequent reds.
Like a previous poster said, heavily punish teams falling foul of financial fair play. Massive points deduction.
Bring in a salary cap and transfer budget per window.
 

Spurslove

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Penalise Goalkeepers for wasting time. Adopt a timer as in American Football which give the keeper a set amount of seconds to kick/throw the ball.
Penalise cheating when players feign injury to waste time, likewise when players tactically foul to stop counter attacks etc. Both should attract yellow cards and subsequent reds.
Like a previous poster said, heavily punish teams falling foul of financial fair play. Massive points deduction.
Bring in a salary cap and transfer budget per window.

Regarding your first point about goalkeepers wasting time, I thought there was a law which said they had 6 seconds to release the ball, but I'm not 100% about that. If that's the case though, as far as I can tell, only towards the end of games (sometimes) goalies for teams on the winning sides are booked for wasting time.

I'm afraid your second point, despite being an excellent one which we'd all agree needs to be addressed...would be absolutely impossible to police, and I'm afraid to say, if you eliminated all the cheating from the game, I wonder what if anything, would be left. Cheating has become so much a part of football these days.

Your third point, yes, absolutely.

Fourthly, I'd LOVE a salary cap to be brought in but I reckon football would be brought to a complete halt, because the PFA would organise a mass walk-out of all the players.

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SheffieldAndy

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Regarding your first point about goalkeepers wasting time, I thought there was a law which said they had 6 seconds to release the ball, but I'm not 100% about that. If that's the case though, as far as I can tell, only towards the end of games (sometimes) goalies for teams on the winning sides are booked for wasting time.

I'm afraid your second point, despite being an excellent one which we'd all agree needs to be addressed...would be absolutely impossible to police, and I'm afraid to say, if you eliminated all the cheating from the game, I wonder what if anything, would be left. Cheating has become so much a part of football these days.

Your third point, yes, absolutely.

Fourthly, I'd LOVE a salary cap to be brought in but I reckon football would be brought to a complete halt, because the PFA would organise a mass walk-out of all the players.

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The six second rule only refers to time that the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands, so the ways they timewaste currently aren’t covered by that rule. Hence the way they wait until the last second to pick a ball up that comes back to them when trying to waste time.
 

Spurslove

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The six second rule only refers to time that the goalkeeper has the ball in his hands, so the ways they timewaste currently aren’t covered by that rule. Hence the way they wait until the last second to pick a ball up that comes back to them when trying to waste time.

Right, and presumably that's why they often drop the ball and kick it a few feet before lumping the ball forwards.

Cheers, yes, that does make sense.

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skiba

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Wage caps. Not some bullshit % of income but a set figure that is the same for every club.
 

easley91

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VAR to be able to look at goal kicks/corners and throw-ins.

A simple look at a replay and we know who is supposed to have the ball.
 

Partizan

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Now that penalty decisions are more about being charitable towards attacking players as opposed to punishing actually serious offences from defenders, I'd rather penalties be taken further back, maybe on the line at the edge of the box. Lower probability of success but still very much in favour of the attacker. And it would have the added bonus of getting rid of those poncy hop skip jump penalties you see from some players.

Keep the penalty spot for shootouts if you like.
 

Marty

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Now that penalty decisions are more about being charitable towards attacking players as opposed to punishing actually serious offences from defenders, I'd rather penalties be taken further back, maybe on the line at the edge of the box. Lower probability of success but still very much in favour of the attacker. And it would have the added bonus of getting rid of those poncy hop skip jump penalties you see from some players.

Keep the penalty spot for shootouts if you like.
On the subject of penalties I'd bring back indirect free kicks and use them for all handballs in the area that don't stop a certain goal. It seems unreasonably harsh that an accidental handball just inside the line should give your opponent a free shot with an 80% chance of scoring.
 

cwy21

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On the subject of penalties I'd bring back indirect free kicks and use them for all handballs in the area that don't stop a certain goal. It seems unreasonably harsh that an accidental handball just inside the line should give your opponent a free shot with an 80% chance of scoring.

That would create a bunch of scenarios where it would be wise for the defender to stop the ball with their hand.
 

Marty

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That would create a bunch of scenarios where it would be wise for the defender to stop the ball with their hand.
Then it wouldn't be accidental. I see now I phrased the original post wrong.
 

Spurslove

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Now that penalty decisions are more about being charitable towards attacking players as opposed to punishing actually serious offences from defenders, I'd rather penalties be taken further back, maybe on the line at the edge of the box. Lower probability of success but still very much in favour of the attacker. And it would have the added bonus of getting rid of those poncy hop skip jump penalties you see from some players.

Keep the penalty spot for shootouts if you like.

Interesting...

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SirHarryHotspur

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Apart from where play is stopped for injury and player taken off by stretcher/physio , substitutions only allowed when your team in possession i.e if attacking team have a corner or free kick defending team cannot make subs it would stop them tryimg to hold up play especially if under pressure. Sure players will suddenly collapse with mysterious injuries to get a sub on but it's worth a try
 

cwy21

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Then it wouldn't be accidental. I see now I phrased the original post wrong.

Do you view the PK Davies gave up against Palace as accidental? Because the laws don't. He made his body unnaturally larger and paid the price for stopping a cross.
 

sparx100

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Wage caps. Not some bullshit % of income but a set figure that is the same for every club.
Absolutely this. They need to cap it. Newcastle are going to make this even worse than it is now. There needs to be some way of regulating wages/contracts.
 

JCRD

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Independant timekeeper so it's out of the ref's hands (like they have in rugby) so much timewasting goes unpunished

Ive been getting into the NFL for the last few years and one thing that i find interesting is that every second from the game is accounted for. All the time is linked and shown. Similiar to rugby really.

I think football should go down that route. The referees have far too much power over this. I dont think the clock should be stopped for things like throw ins or corners but it really should be stopped for substitutions and injuries etc and should all be linked up to the stadium clock and the clock on tv
 

cwy21

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Ive been getting into the NFL for the last few years and one thing that i find interesting is that every second from the game is accounted for. All the time is linked and shown. Similiar to rugby really.

I think football should go down that route. The referees have far too much power over this. I dont think the clock should be stopped for things like throw ins or corners but it really should be stopped for substitutions and injuries etc and should all be linked up to the stadium clock and the clock on tv
In high school soccer in the US that I ref, we stop the clock on cards, goals, and injuries. Also on subs in the final 5 minutes for the winning team.
 

JimmyG2

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Currently, a 15 second time limit on throw ins.
It's become another time wasting tactic.
Throw reverts to opposition in this event.
 

lincspurs

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Currently, a 15 second time limit on throw ins.
It's become another time wasting tactic.
Throw reverts to opposition in this event.
And if the player takes the throw in ahead of the point it went out it should be reversed & given to the other team. The ref or linesman can mark it. It bugs me the extra yards players so obviously grab time & time again.
I would also advocate that once a penalty is taken the taker should not be able to touch it if it comes back to him off the keeper, he has an advantage, being inside the box, it’s unfair on the other team.
 
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