Kane back up

[tobi]

Maybe it will but Kane is the type of player who gives everything regardless of whether he has competition for his place. I'm not sure what more we would get out of him in terms of effort.

At the very least, it'll keep him on edge.

It's remarkable we've gotten away with having one proper striker for so long.

 

[spursfan77]

But Poch is not looking for an out and out striker, he's looking for someone who can play as striker and other positions if needed.

Well, I think he's wrong. He should be looking out for one.

 

[spursfan77]

The biggest difference between this year and 2012, when we failed to sign a quality striker in the January transfer window, is that the club's revenues have exploded since then due to the increase in television money. Our total revenue for 2011-2012 was 144 million pounds. With the new television deal, our projected revenue will be around 235 million pounds starting next season. Considering our wage bill has only marginally increased in the last 5 years, we undoubtedly have the financial standing to go out and spend big to bring in a quality striker in January if one is available.

Concerns about a player being brought in and upsetting team chemistry is unfounded and unlikely. A player like that probably wouldn't be purchased by us in the first place, and anyone willing to move teams in January to come to us likely will want to succeed.

The only issue with signing a striker is if the club can convince a selling club to part with a quality player. Batshuayi appears to be, and should be, the number one target for us. He'd be worth spending 25 million pounds on, as he is not just cover for Kane, but could actually supplant Kane as first choice. That's the type of competition we've seen helps players raise their levels, and if we want to be a club in ascendancy challenging for trophies, no player in the squad should be sacrosanct in his place in the starting XI.

One thing I do disagree with some people about is what to do if there simply aren't any top shelf options available. I think a loan, even if the player is a bit older, would make a lot of sense. We need to guard against a Kane injury, as that could see us go from a top 3 challenge to out of the top 4 in a season unlike any other. Someone like Negredo, if he were open to it, would be a great stop-gap options. This is where I think not having Baldini hurts a bit. He had the contacts throughout Spain and Italy to explore loan deals for players, which I'm not sure anyone in our current set-up can match.

You're 100% right there.

 

[Shadydan]

Well, I think he's wrong. He should be looking out for one.

 

[ShaunL84]

Wait until the summer and sign Lukaku, play Kane in the 10.

 

[Trix]

Wait until the summer and sign Lukaku, play Kane in the 10.

Are you ever sober?

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Wait until the summer and sign Lukaku, play Kane in the 10.

You think Lukaku would want to play for Mourinho (or that Mourinho would want Lukaku)?

 

[Lilbaz]

The biggest difference between this year and 2012, when we failed to sign a quality striker in the January transfer window, is that the club's revenues have exploded since then due to the increase in television money. Our total revenue for 2011-2012 was 144 million pounds. With the new television deal, our projected revenue will be around 235 million pounds starting next season. Considering our wage bill has only marginally increased in the last 5 years, we undoubtedly have the financial standing to go out and spend big to bring in a quality striker in January if one is available.

Concerns about a player being brought in and upsetting team chemistry is unfounded and unlikely. A player like that probably wouldn't be purchased by us in the first place, and anyone willing to move teams in January to come to us likely will want to succeed.

The only issue with signing a striker is if the club can convince a selling club to part with a quality player. Batshuayi appears to be, and should be, the number one target for us. He'd be worth spending 25 million pounds on, as he is not just cover for Kane, but could actually supplant Kane as first choice. That's the type of competition we've seen helps players raise their levels, and if we want to be a club in ascendancy challenging for trophies, no player in the squad should be sacrosanct in his place in the starting XI.

One thing I do disagree with some people about is what to do if there simply aren't any top shelf options available. I think a loan, even if the player is a bit older, would make a lot of sense. We need to guard against a Kane injury, as that could see us go from a top 3 challenge to out of the top 4 in a season unlike any other. Someone like Negredo, if he were open to it, would be a great stop-gap options. This is where I think not having Baldini hurts a bit. He had the contacts throughout Spain and Italy to explore loan deals for players, which I'm not sure anyone in our current set-up can match.

£750m being spent on a new stadium. From a club that traditionall makes around £4m profit a year. Every spare penny is going towards it. We will spend money that we raise from sales as we have done for the last 6 years.

No point getting upset about it. It's the way things are.

 

[JAYSTAR]

Vardy, Ighalo, Dembele or Berahinho at a sensible price would be good.

Pacey, intelligent, generally humble and able to work in a partnership. (In front of a 10 or next to one). We need a second string striker to make it Son, Kane and someone else. For me N'jie is a wide forward only, as is Chadli.

 

[double0]

I'm very happy with Kane tbh another striker would have to be multi purpose and we have those in Chadli Son N'jie.

 

[lukespurs7]

Love to get an experienced striker in on loan, but according to ITK we're not going to do that.

So we quite possibly might well then

 

[TH1239]

£750m being spent on a new stadium. From a club that traditionall makes around £4m profit a year. Every spare penny is going towards it. We will spend money that we raise from sales as we have done for the last 6 years.

No point getting upset about it. It's the way things are.

We made a 4 million pound profit in the years where the television deal doled out 55 million pounds a season. Next season we are projected to make 135-140 million pounds from the television deal alone. That money is locked in until 2019, too. Considering our wage bill has remained largely stagnant in recent years compared to our revenue streams, we will be making astronomical profits in the coming years, far greater than we've ever seen before.

Just look at the Berahino saga in the summer for evidence that not "every spare penny" is going to go towards funding a stadium. We know as a near certainty that the club were prepared to spend 20+ million pounds to purchase him with no off-setting sales as late as the last day of the transfer window. That shows that the club isn't engaged in the hardcore austerity movement that some want to ascribe to it (and bizarrely, seemingly want the club to engage in).

In fact, from a business perspective, it'd be downright foolish to not accelerate transfer and wage expenditures, where appropriate, to match growing revenue in an era when Crystal Palace, Leicester, and Watford are all spending 20+ million pounds NET in a summer transfer window. You cannot practice hardcore austerity indefinitely in the current Premier League. You'll be caught from behind and surpassed in time. For a club banking on hundreds of millions of pounds in sponsorship revenue and 60,000 ticket paying fans, you'll need a product that matches that, which means selling to buy isn't going to be the norm moving forward with the leaned out squad we have, so long as there are actual holes to fill in the squad.

That doesn't mean we run around pile-driving 50 million pound up front bids. But it does mean that the "we have no money and should sign no one" line simply isn't legitimate any longer if there is a need and we have a target willing to come to us.

 

[Chilli]

Concerns about a player being brought in and upsetting team chemistry is unfounded and unlikely. A player like that probably wouldn't be purchased by us in the first place, and anyone willing to move teams in January to come to us likely will want to succeed.

One thing I do disagree with some people about is what to do if there simply aren't any top shelf options available. I think a loan, even if the player is a bit older, would make a lot of sense. We need to guard against a Kane injury, as that could see us go from a top 3 challenge to out of the top 4 in a season unlike any other. Someone like Negredo, if he were open to it, would be a great stop-gap options. This is where I think not having Baldini hurts a bit. He had the contacts throughout Spain and Italy to explore loan deals for players, which I'm not sure anyone in our current set-up can match.

Your points are well written but I could not disagree with you more.

The first bit above; This is massively important and is the sole reason why we are a decent side this year. There are virtually no egos, no big splits in the dressing room and instead; a single minded focus and belief in poch's way of thinking.

This is done by having like minded players, with no real 'me' attitudes, being young, hungry, completely desperate to learn and wanting to make thier mark.

It's seriously clever what poch has done and is in the process of doing.

It took him a long time to weed out the dead wood and the so called superstars that don't want to put a shift in EVERY SINGLE game. So let's not fuck this up by getting some over paid player that thinks he didn't have to work as hard as everyone else.

As good a negredo is, he doesn't fit.

When Poch says we need to be carful who we bring in, he fucking means it man. It's taken a lot of carful work to get us here, so let's not do anything stupid to cock it up.

I totally understand the fears of not having options upfront. But a rash move in Jan could totally destabilise things and be much worse.

Buy wisely in Jan or not at all.

 

[Mr Pink]

Poch/Mitchell will have done their due diligence on the players they like.

If we can't get said player/players....we won't bring in anyone, simple as that. The player has to be suitable and the right fit - for many reasons, covered in some of the posts above.

Squad harmony is exceptionally important IMO, and at the moment its pretty obvious we have a great spirit amongst the group.

 

[Flashspur]

Your points are well written but I could not disagree with you more.

The first bit above; This is massively important and is the sole reason why we are a decent side this year. There are virtually no egos, no big splits in the dressing room and instead; a single minded focus and belief in poch's way of thinking.

This is done by having like minded players, with no real 'me' attitudes, being young, hungry, completely desperate to learn and wanting to make thier mark.

It's seriously clever what poch has done and is in the process of doing.

It took him a long time to weed out the dead wood and the so called superstars that don't want to put a shift in EVERY SINGLE game. So let's not fuck this up by getting some over paid player that thinks he didn't have to work as hard as everyone else.

As good a negredo is, he doesn't fit.

When Poch says we need to be carful who we bring in, he fucking means it man. It's taken a lot of carful work to get us here, so let's not do anything stupid to cock it up.

I totally understand the fears of not having options upfront. But a rash move in Jan could totally destabilise things and be much worse.

Buy wisely in Jan or not at all.

I think you are missing the point, @TH1239 didn't say buy someone who was going to disrupt harmony. He said you have to look at buying quality and that costs money. However with an expanding revenue base why would you not ensure that you are maintaining parity with the PL. You cant rely on your academy for every type of player you need. Not every player worth 20m plus is a c**t mind you.

You can just see the standard of the PL this season. It has risen dramatically and even the lesser clubs are doing well because of increased expenditure. This is the real reason for the changing paradigm in the PL, not necessarily the poor form of the Sky 4.

 

[HotspurFC1950]

At the very least, it'll keep him on edge.

It's remarkable we've gotten away with having one proper striker for so long.

Some players like Harry are stronger than others. Some play with a bit of pain, manage it, happy to do it, want to do it.

Sturridge on the other hand.

 

[lukespurs7]

Your points are well written but I could not disagree with you more.

The first bit above; This is massively important and is the sole reason why we are a decent side this year. There are virtually no egos, no big splits in the dressing room and instead; a single minded focus and belief in poch's way of thinking.

This is done by having like minded players, with no real 'me' attitudes, being young, hungry, completely desperate to learn and wanting to make thier mark.

It's seriously clever what poch has done and is in the process of doing.

It took him a long time to weed out the dead wood and the so called superstars that don't want to put a shift in EVERY SINGLE game. So let's not fuck this up by getting some over paid player that thinks he didn't have to work as hard as everyone else.

As good a negredo is, he doesn't fit.

When Poch says we need to be carful who we bring in, he fucking means it man. It's taken a lot of carful work to get us here, so let's not do anything stupid to cock it up.

I totally understand the fears of not having options upfront. But a rash move in Jan could totally destabilise things and be much worse.

Buy wisely in Jan or not at all.

Yes but we need another striker if Kane gets injured long-term we're fucked. We can sell fazio and Townsend and buy a stop-gap striker and I'm sure the squad harmony will still be fine just bringing in one player as long as it's not adebeyor!

 

[Flashspur]

Poch/Mitchell will have done their due diligence on the players they like.

If we can't get said player/players....we won't bring in anyone, simple as that. The player has to be suitable and the right fit - for many reasons, covered in some of the posts above.

Squad harmony is exceptionally important IMO, and at the moment its pretty obvious we have a great spirit amongst the group.

...that spirits going down the toilet bowl if we lose Harry Kane and cant score for quid's and the losses start to pile up. I can just see Son and Chadli trying to do a Kane impersonation.....NOT

No back up striker for the last half of the PL season is madness. How long is our luck going to hold out?

 

[Mr Pink]

...that spirits going down the toilet bowl if we lose Harry Kane and cant score for quid's and the losses start to pile up. I can just see Son and Chadli trying to do a Kane impersonation.....NOT

No back up striker for the last half of the PL season is madness. How long is our luck going to hold out?

I'm not saying we shouldn't get another forward in, that's clearly a priority - but it still has to be someone Pochettino's wants and January can be a difficult time to do business.

Hopefully we'll have a few options though.

 

[dagraham]

I would love to know why we are happy to ignore the loan market. Doesn't mean we have to sign a nutcase for 5 months, but even if we did sign someone who wasn't quite the right fit, how much damage can a player conceivably do to team morale in 5 months? Even Ade was successful during his loan spell.

If at the end of the season Poch wants rid then fine.

It's all about risk and the risk of a loan signing upsetting the system or team spirit is far lower than the risk of Kane getting injured or burnt out.