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Matrix

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Unless a significant number of players such as Kaboul, Adebayor, Soldado, Chiriches, Paulinho, or Lennon leave, I'd try to keep the powder dry until the end of the season, and hand out opportunities to youth players in the meantime.

Wouldn't mind seeing Rabiot (and perhaps one more player such as Konoplyanka) coming in on loan. In terms of loans, the club could learn a thing or two from Southampton.

I don't think Spurs are planning any major outlays, but if they are, here's hoping they'll try to sign Memphis Depay, who's a very special talent. Would much rather pay £25 mill for him than £15 m for Mirallas.

Agreed, Pienaar wasn't given much of a chance at Spurs. I'm not so sure Mirallas would be treated any different, barring a mass exodus.

Totally missed this. I agree with some of what you say but how can you say Mirallas is mediocre, when he has more output in the last few seasons than Townsend, Lennon , Paulinho combined. Then say we should get 2 players on loan who have never set foot in a premierleague game. What's the point of that. We need to push on NOW and need players who will not have to adjust. Admittedly they all could be crap or be the messiahs but Mirallas is the only one you would be confident in as he's already here. 4th is a strong possibilty and with being in 3 cups we need proven players to play in the league to push us over the line.im not sure that 2 loans from overseas is the answer.
We always miss a trick in January with transfers or the lack of, then moan why we didn't do this that and the other to push us over the line. I just don't get that.
It's all opinions but Kevin Mirallas scores goals, creates and has got accustomed to life in our league. Also 3 of his international teammates already play for us. Best fit for us out of everyone mentioned.
 

Zlatan

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McCarthy and Mirallas would be amazing! But Everton won't sell one of their best player to us, let alone two.
 

sweetness

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Totally missed this. I agree with some of what you say but how can you say Mirallas is mediocre, when he has more output in the last few seasons than Townsend, Lennon , Paulinho combined. Then say we should get 2 players on loan who have never set foot in a premierleague game. What's the point of that. We need to push on NOW and need players who will not have to adjust. Admittedly they all could be crap or be the messiahs but Mirallas is the only one you would be confident in as he's already here. 4th is a strong possibilty and with being in 3 cups we need proven players to play in the league to push us over the line.im not sure that 2 loans from overseas is the answer.
We always miss a trick in January with transfers or the lack of, then moan why we didn't do this that and the other to push us over the line. I just don't get that.
It's all opinions but Kevin Mirallas scores goals, creates and has got accustomed to life in our league. Also 3 of his international teammates already play for us. Best fit for us out of everyone mentioned.
From an opportunity-cost perspective, Mirallas at £15m is a dead-end. That's the point I tried to make. My alternative suggestions were made on the basis of trying to find value.

You believe that Mirallas would represent the missing link to finishing 4th. I don't. IMO, the pushing-on-now doctrine is a fallacy. Success springs from good decisions, not from short-term decision frenzy in the transfer window. I'd much rather have the club focusing on making sound long-term decisions.
 

rossdapep

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Anybody know what Evertons financial situation is like? I know that they blew all their money on lukaku in the summer and it seems to have backfired. Do you think we could bait them out as perhaps Kenwright may be looking to bring in funds, especially should Martinez want to add in the summer.
 

al_pacino

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Anybody know what Evertons financial situation is like? I know that they blew all their money on lukaku in the summer and it seems to have backfired. Do you think we could bait them out as perhaps Kenwright may be looking to bring in funds, especially should Martinez want to add in the summer.

Since the new TV deal all PL clubs are loaded.
 

225

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Anybody know what Evertons financial situation is like? I know that they blew all their money on lukaku in the summer and it seems to have backfired. Do you think we could bait them out as perhaps Kenwright may be looking to bring in funds, especially should Martinez want to add in the summer.

We could if we could find out who was in charge... :cautious:
 

y1dk1d

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They're in the top 30 in the world, cba to check where on that list. I don't think they're in need of cash though
 

cliff jones

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not keen on Mirallas myself, would be over-priced from another Prem club at 27 and there's better value out there. He always struck me as the look at me type, and him snatching the pen from Baines the other night didn't surprise me. I was surprised he missed though, he's a really good finisher. If Levy could get the Planka deal done, that would make sense from all angles. Another good deal could be Zaha, who looks to me like he just needs an arm round him, or perhaps Bolasie.
 

Carp

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Since the new TV deal all PL clubs are loaded.

They may be loaded, but there is a Premier League financial fair play. According to the PLFFP, there is no wage restriction for clubs with wages bellow £52m pa. I'd be surprised if Everton's wage bill is bellow £75-80m. For clubs with wage bills over 52m pa, max increase in wages is 4m pa plus any increased revenue from new commercial deals. According to Delotte Money League, Everton's commercial revenue is only 13m pa. I think they need to lower their wage bill and do it fast.
 

sweetness

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They may be loaded, but there is a Premier League financial fair play. According to the PLFFP, there is no wage restriction for clubs with wages bellow £52m pa. I'd be surprised if Everton's wage bill is bellow £75-80m. For clubs with wage bills over 52m pa, max increase in wages is 4m pa plus any increased revenue from new commercial deals. According to Delotte Money League, Everton's commercial revenue is only 13m pa. I think they need to lower their wage bill and do it fast.
Evertons' wage bill was £63m in 12/13. It has most probably increased since then, but I don't see any indication of them falling foul of PL's FFP rules. IIRC, Europa League income can be spent in full on top of the restrictions.
 

Snarfalicious

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Chadli's been better than him this season. I feel like you'd go for a guy like Mirallas if you know he's going to be an upgrade on what you have. He's got more pace than Chadli and he's obviously PL proven. Both of which are intriguing, but if he's not going to come in and add to the Starting XI instantly, does it not make more sense to go for a younger player with a higher ceiling that can still provide similar pace off the bench (For instance, Jean-Paul Boetius) and in the long run could become a player that is a starting XI player.
 

DaSpurs

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Chadli's been better than him this season. I feel like you'd go for a guy like Mirallas if you know he's going to be an upgrade on what you have. He's got more pace, which is intriguing, but if he's not going to come in and add to the Starting XI instantly, does it not make more sense to go for a younger player with a higher ceiling that can still provide similar pace off the bench (For instance, Jean-Paul Boetius).

While that is true, I think it's the near term guarantee of goals that Mirallas could provide which would make him desirable. He's also a more versatile winger than usual nowadays in that he can play very well and score from either flank.

What would really please me though is Chadli starting to see more time at striker and then Mirallas/someone else seeing that time at LW.

Wouldn't be opposed to any pacey addition at LW at this point though. As long as they're quick and willing to take on defenders with confidence, then that's a massive upgrade to our squad options and point potential.
 

millsey

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We won't buy any players in jan as we won't pay for someone to come in as first choice in any position at the moment in my opinion
 

millsey

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While that is true, I think it's the near term guarantee of goals that Mirallas could provide which would make him desirable. He's also a more versatile winger than usual nowadays in that he can play very well and score from either flank.

What would really please me though is Chadli starting to see more time at striker and then Mirallas/someone else seeing that time at LW.

Wouldn't be opposed to any pacey addition at LW at this point though. As long as they're quick and willing to take on defenders with confidence, then that's a massive upgrade to our squad options and point potential.
So put Chadli in a role he's never ever played before then?
 

DaSpurs

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So put Chadli in a role he's never ever played before then?

He has, while at Twente.

I'm convinced Chadli would do a perfectly fine job there. He doesn't score a winger's goals anyway (except against Chelsea, when they gave him space), but has good finishing ability in the box, is big, has a great first touch, can dribble decently well enough to create his own goals (but not good enough to take on a stacked box from the wing apparently), knows how to find space in the box, knows how to get in behind defenders, and can win the aerial battles. I honestly think he'd be an excellent striker.

I think the only reason we haven't even tried it yet is because we've tried so adamantly to make Ade and Soldado work.
 

wiggo24

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Chadli's been better than him this season. I feel like you'd go for a guy like Mirallas if you know he's going to be an upgrade on what you have. He's got more pace than Chadli and he's obviously PL proven. Both of which are intriguing, but if he's not going to come in and add to the Starting XI instantly, does it not make more sense to go for a younger player with a higher ceiling that can still provide similar pace off the bench (For instance, Jean-Paul Boetius) and in the long run could become a player that is a starting XI player.

Very good point.

TBH, I'm still not sure why we're not going all out for Boetius and Clasie in a combined deal.

I understand we need to shift first, but they're young, cheaper than in other European leagues, have bags of potential, and will seemingly suit our new style of play, especially Clasie. Players from the Eredivisie seem to do well in the prem too.
 
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