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SamR

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We need to win this one - I'd rather us play a full strength team as it's Arsenal...but then I guess you can argue why undone the hard work if we make it through by playing reserves afterwards? League cup is possibly our best chance of European Football next year.

With this said, i'd love to play the kids and see who can step up - shame it's arsenal so early ey.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Getting 4th is comfortably a more impressive and enviable achievement than winning the league cup these days I'm afraid, whether that sits right with you or not.

I'm 26 and my favourite Spurs memories are the 1999 and 2008 League Cup wins, and beating City to 4th in 2010 and the subsequent CL campaign.

I know when the club was in its best shape during those years and which achievement of those best reflected that fact, and which one felt the most glorious too. It was competing with the very best clubs in europe (and beating them) on the biggest stage in world football.

We have no chance of 4th this season of course, but that doesn't change the fact that not only would I take 4th over the league cup, I think anyone who wouldn't is living in the past.


Agreed, but one of those two options is more realistic. I'd be fucking impressed with the League Cup or whatever it's called than a last day 5th place finish to be honest.
 

yiddopaul

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Agreed, but one of those two options is more realistic. I'd be fucking impressed with the League Cup or whatever it's called than a last day 5th place finish to be honest.
I'll be happy with any trophy! But I desperately want us to win the FA Cup again. 24 years is to long for a club with our FA Cup pedigree.
 

Mr Pink

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Sorry Talkshow, I normally agree with a lot of your posts but not with this.

This is the NLD. It doesn't matter that it's in the 3rd round of the COC. I don't care if Arsenal don't care and put their under 15s out. I want to beat them into a corner and make them cry.

The momentum we could gain from beating these early in the season would be massive.

I don't think we have a chance in hell of making it to 4th anyway, so balls in for the cups.

A win against the scum midweek, no matter what the team, and then playing City on the Saturday gives the fans an extra boost and the players too. No one will give us a chance v City but if the players get a positive feeling from beating Arsenal and the fans are up for it we'll beat them if we turn up and play our best football.

Momentum is what this is all about, and there is too much to be gained from winning this game to put out the second string.

Like it was last February? Just before we entered our most crucial period of the season and failed miserably :D
 

Bobbins

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Hope we don't get tempted to put a full team out because it's Arsenal.

4th most important tournament. Needs to be treated that way.

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Because it's Arsenal is exactly the reason we should be putting a full team out.

It's Arsenal.

It's Arsenal. At home.

I wouldn't care if it was a friendly when it's a game against them. Strongest possible line-up, every time.

And whilst the League Cup might be the 4th priority for you, I see it as what it is: by far the easiest trophy to win. This club needs to win things, not have yet another pointless failed flailing at an impossible 4th place we'll never get.

Full first team out and beat the Gooner twats and get through to the next round. Anything less is failure and frankly shameful. Bill Nic wouldn't put a weakened team out in this game.

We are not going to get 4th. And if we were to do so, playing a weakened team against Arsenal in the first round of an incredibly winnable cup won't be the thing that does it for us - it would be winning games where we already have the lead against mid-table sides like Stoke and Leicester, or not losing to one of the worst United sides in history.

Anything less than full strength would be an absolute disgrace.
 

tototoner

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If the game is Wed 26 Sept, it will be same time as the England Wales game in the Rugby world cup
 

talkshowhost86

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Because it's Arsenal is exactly the reason we should be putting a full team out.

It's Arsenal.

It's Arsenal. At home.

I wouldn't care if it was a friendly when it's a game against them. Strongest possible line-up, every time.

And whilst the League Cup might be the 4th priority for you, I see it as what it is: by far the easiest trophy to win. This club needs to win things, not have yet another pointless failed flailing at an impossible 4th place we'll never get.

Full first team out and beat the Gooner twats and get through to the next round. Anything less is failure and frankly shameful. Bill Nic wouldn't put a weakened team out in this game.

We are not going to get 4th. And if we were to do so, playing a weakened team against Arsenal in the first round of an incredibly winnable cup won't be the thing that does it for us - it would be winning games where we already have the lead against mid-table sides like Stoke and Leicester, or not losing to one of the worst United sides in history.

Anything less than full strength would be an absolute disgrace.

Sorry Bobbins but whilst I admire your commitment, your reference to Bill Nic further confirms that you are living in the past.

And I suspect that he'd be appalled by you having given up on the league season with 3 games gone and our squad not even complete.

Arsenal won't play their first team in this game. Ask yourself why that is?
 

Bobbins

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Sorry Bobbins but whilst I admire your commitment, your reference to Bill Nic further confirms that you are living in the past.

And I suspect that he'd be appalled by you having given up on the league season with 3 games gone and our squad not even complete.

Arsenal won't play their first team in this game. Ask yourself why that is?

I expected you might respond with something like this - but I think if you look again you'll realise I'm doing the exact opposite of living in the past - I'm living very much in the here and now with regards to our current status and prospects of success.

I'm also certain Bill Nic would be well aware enough these days to realise that winning a cup is a lot more attainable and glorious than an incredibly-unlikely 4th placed finish. I don't think he'd be appalled at all - I think he'd be pragmatic.

Arsenal won't play their first team because they are title contenders and are in the CL, and therefore have much bigger fish to fry. The League Cup is a truly minor trophy for them, which would mean little.

We aren't title contenders, and realistically aren't even CL spot contenders, therefore we do not have much bigger fish to fry than the League Cup. It should be one of our main priorities as an upper mid-table side which hasn't won a thing in years, and would only need to win something like 6 games to get this trophy.

The here and now is that we are light years behind Arsenal in terms of our ability to maintain a consistent CL placing. There are at least 5 stronger clubs than us in the league and we would require at least two of them to have disastrous seasons to have a chance of finishing 4th. That's not going to happen - and even if it did, we only have 2 points from our opening 9 anyway - we're hardly up there pushing and just hoping we can maintain it for another 9 months.

This is one game. One game, at home, against Arsenal. It also happens to be followed by a game we're highly unlikely to get anything from based on recent seasons.

Full first team squad. They can play one damn game at top level mid-week, for once.
 

mkkid

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Hope we don't get tempted to put a full team out because it's Arsenal.

4th most important tournament. Needs to be treated that way.

Are you mad, I don't care about the palace game or the city game because we not getting in the top 4th.
The game is about winning cups for us.
It's currently our 3rd biggest game of the season behind the league games against them.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Like it was last February? Just before we entered our most crucial period of the season and failed miserably :D

I think this year with Poch's players a good run will benefit us. Last season the loss of a Cup final may have unsettled a young team?
 

BuryMeInEngland

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Because it's Arsenal is exactly the reason we should be putting a full team out.

It's Arsenal.

It's Arsenal. At home
.

I wouldn't care if it was a friendly when it's a game against them. Strongest possible line-up, every time.

And whilst the League Cup might be the 4th priority for you, I see it as what it is: by far the easiest trophy to win. This club needs to win things, not have yet another pointless failed flailing at an impossible 4th place we'll never get.

Full first team out and beat the Gooner twats and get through to the next round. Anything less is failure and frankly shameful. Bill Nic wouldn't put a weakened team out in this game.

We are not going to get 4th. And if we were to do so, playing a weakened team against Arsenal in the first round of an incredibly winnable cup won't be the thing that does it for us - it would be winning games where we already have the lead against mid-table sides like Stoke and Leicester, or not losing to one of the worst United sides in history.

Anything less than full strength would be an absolute disgrace.
Close the thread. This says it all, there is nothing more to add.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Well, at least the Bournemouth fans can smile as they start the almost 300 mile journey home, at half ten on a Tuesday night.
 
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