Leandro Damiao

[Barry Mead]

If reports are true about Man City being in for Negredo, then we can forget him.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the Valencia situation. If he is allowed to leave for less than his release fee, we might have competition for him.

For the record I think Soldado or Nergredo would be good signings but they too come with uncertainties like Benteke. They have never played in the PL, they are both 28 (Negredo will be 2 days after the 1st game of the season), so there would be no (or very little) re-sale value if it does go tits up.

Plus, both seem happy at their clubs and we don't know if they want to come. It appears that we are Benteke's preferred option which is a big plus when so many teams are looking for strikers this year.

I think both Soldado and Negredo are happy at their current clubs but equally both have mentioned that they would be interested in the PL and I think also both know that their clubs may be forced to sell

I think both would be more than happy moving to the PL and London and of course neither would be leaving a club with CL

I feel their experience in big, small and medium size clubs will serve them well too as Real, Almeria and Seville and Real, Getafe and Valencia all had their unique needs that they supplied.

I don't think we should be focussing on possible re sale values when buying players but more on fit and what they can offer us during their contract. The benefit of signing players or 27/28 is that if they do well they are unlikely to be pushing for a move and more likely to accept an extension so you get the benefit of consistency of quality over 4 years or more, rather than say someone like Benteke who if he has a good season appears to want to move the next year and if he doesn't have a good season well you have a declining asset. Of course an older player can have a poor season as well but the upside if he turns out good is that it's much easier to keep him

 

[Bobbyh99]

Been reading on twitter that Nilmar and Saviola are negotiating with Inter in readiness for the departure of LD. Probably to Napoli

 

[CJMurray]

Yeah they might but you shouldn't ,be paying the same price for a player that might as a player that has and that's really the nub of it. You can look at a whole host of players that have had a great start in the PL only to have struggled to ever emulate it, Ricketts, Santa Cruz, Zaki, Odemwingie, Carroll.

Personally from what I've seen of Leandro I think he's a far more complete striker and has far better skill and vision to prosper in a better team where he won't get the time of space that say Benteke had at Villa where teams tend to attack looking for a win rather than defend deep hoping for a draw. If we are looking at Benteke's games I think I'd rather we sign Demba Cisse comparing what he showed the season before he just looked to have far more to his game. Sure he's struggled for goals this season but if we are comparing first seasons I would prefer Cisse but the difference being Cisse's price now wouldn't be inflated by just his first (half) season form but will have been discounted by cutting out the hype of the first seasons goals

Don't get me wrong, I don't blame Villa for asking a high inflated price, that's their prerogative, what I don't want to see is us paying it and it's not just a question of paying too high a price I simply don't think Benteke is good enough to be the main striker in a team with any serious ambitions to event make CL much less make a serious title challenge

That is just hideously wrong. Cisse is a poacher, nothing more.

Ignore the fact that Benteke scored 11 more goals (in less games) and look at the rest of his game...

Benteke: 1.6 key passes pg, 4 assists, 0.7 dribbles pg, 34 passes pg, 7.9 arial duels won pg, dispossessed 2.4 times pg.
Cisse: 0.9 key passes pg, 2 assists, 0.3 dribbles, 23 passes pg, 1.3 arial duels won pg, dispossessed 2 times pg.

Benteke was adapting to a new league with a pretty new team of players that didn't know each other that well early on. Cisse was part of a relatively stable team and had been there for roughly 18 months.

The stats are from this season, but they're still relevant.

 

[michaelden]

Been reading on twitter that Nilmar and Saviola are negotiating with Inter in readiness for the departure of LD. Probably to Napoli

Nilmar was so hyped but got injured and took ages to get back to a top level

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Been reading on twitter that Nilmar and Saviola are negotiating with Inter in readiness for the departure of LD. Probably to Napoli

Heard it all before.

 

[Barry Mead]

That is just hideously wrong. Cisse is a poacher, nothing more.

Ignore the fact that Benteke scored 11 more goals (in less games) and look at the rest of his game...

Benteke: 1.6 key passes pg, 4 assists, 0.7 dribbles pg, 34 passes pg, 7.9 arial duels won pg, dispossessed 2.4 times pg.
Cisse: 0.9 key passes pg, 2 assists, 0.3 dribbles, 23 passes pg, 1.3 arial duels won pg, dispossessed 2 times pg.

Benteke was adapting to a new league with a pretty new team of players that didn't know each other that well early on. Cisse was part of a relatively stable team and had been there for roughly 18 months.

The stats are from this season, but they're still relevant.

They are not relevant at all, I was comparing their first seasons -in fact Cisse's first half season as he didn't join till the January
and I was specifically making the point to show that players can look great in their first year and not necessarily repeat anything like it the next season. Cisse was on fire last season scored 13 goals in 13 starts and 1 sub appearance Benteke managed a significantly lesser goals to game ratio 19 in 32 starts and 2 sub appearances. Of course Cisse had Ba as another striker which arguably made it harder to hit the numberr of goals although curiously it seemed Ba hit a great tally before Cisse arrived then Cisse hit a great tally, then last season up to January it was Ba getting the bulk of the goals

Either way you are looking at completely the wrong comparison

 

[singis]

he seems going to Napoli. they are confident of agreeing a deal.

 

[SandroClegane]

he seems going to Napoli. they are confident of agreeing a deal.

so were we. like 15 times.

 

[mill]

so were we. like 15 times.

Levy probably still is

 

[only1waddle]

This is possibly the most ridiculous transfer saga i have ever bore witness too, add in numerous other clubs he has been linked with, or other clubs not bidding anywhere near his value, i can only imagine that between his 3rd party owners and his agents, they are the biggest collection of arseholes in the football business..

 

[Dannyspur]

Does Leandro Damiao actually exist?

 

[Adamspurs]

Does Leandro Damiao actually exist?

I don't think he ever has.

 

[Nick]

Does Leandro Damiao actually exist?

Keyser Soze!

 

[knilly]

I don't think he ever has.

its like that saying

If a tree falls down in a forest, and there is no one there to hear it, is Leandro Damiao a figment of your imagination?

 

[$hoguN]

I'm starting to think that us signing Leandro could be one of the signs of the apocalypse

 

[only1waddle]

I'm starting to think that us signing Leandro could be one of the signs of the apocalypse

He would survive the fucking Apocalypse and still not sign for us...

 

[Dannyspur]

He would survive the fucking Apocalypse and still not sign for us...

I can see the film.....

After the apocalypse only team survived. In a far off distant land one man..alone (apart from his agent and president luigi)! His quest? to search the world for another team before the mighty Dan can find him and track him down, silence his agent, sort out personal terms and force him to put pen to paper.

 

[neptunes]

Been reading on twitter that Nilmar and Saviola are negotiating with Inter in readiness for the departure of LD. Probably to Napoli

Napoli are very much interested in Martinez as well.

 

[only1waddle]

I can see the film.....

After the apocalypse only team survived. In a far off distant land one man..alone (apart from his agent and president luigi)! His quest? to search the world for another team before the mighty Dan can find him and track him down, silence his agent, sort out personal terms and force him to put pen to paper.

Dan simply sends Chuck Norris after him, if he wont sign then Chuck knows what to do, it's post Apocalypse, you make your own rules, the Levy way...

 

[spurs9]

I think both Soldado and Negredo are happy at their current clubs but equally both have mentioned that they would be interested in the PL and I think also both know that their clubs may be forced to sell

I think both would be more than happy moving to the PL and London and of course neither would be leaving a club with CL

I feel their experience in big, small and medium size clubs will serve them well too as Real, Almeria and Seville and Real, Getafe and Valencia all had their unique needs that they supplied.

I don't think we should be focussing on possible re sale values when buying players but more on fit and what they can offer us during their contract. The benefit of signing players or 27/28 is that if they do well they are unlikely to be pushing for a move and more likely to accept an extension so you get the benefit of consistency of quality over 4 years or more, rather than say someone like Benteke who if he has a good season appears to want to move the next year and if he doesn't have a good season well you have a declining asset. Of course an older player can have a poor season as well but the upside if he turns out good is that it's much easier to keep him

I am agreeing with you to an extent. I just think that every striker out there has there pro's and con's and we cant possibly know what would happen. Benteke's pro's are he is young and has done well in the PL. His con's are he might be a one season wonder (he might also not) and he hasn't played in a team that plays against a parked bus. Nergedo & Soldado's Pro's are they have scored consistently year after year. Con's are there are older and have never played in the prem, so might not adapt to our league (but then again they might).

In my ideal scenario, we would have 3 strikers in our squad, one with great technique, movement and finishing ability (Negredo, Soldado, Villa etc), one beast with great stregnth, movement that can also finish becasue sometimes you need a striker that can bully a defense (Benteke, Lukaku, Bony etc) and one youngster that can also play wing fwd, who has something in between, decent stregnth, decent pace and decent technique that can also finish (Rebic).

Now with our spending power, this just isn't possible unless we look to the future for 2 of the 3. I have already mentioned Rebic as the SC/wing fwd and I cant think of a good young technical Striker off the top of my head, but a potential bully of a Striker is Aleksandar Mitrovic. He might not be able to bully PL defenses straight away, but I reckon he will give it a year or two.

Any way that's my 2 cents worth. Now I am just waiting for my change.