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NickHSpurs

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Mar 14, 2004
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As much as the result was a good one today, I've come to realise there is a lot of things we aren't doing, basic things, things that start on the training ground.

As much as it pains me to admit it, we can learn a lot from our neighbours, namely their coach.

From first team to youth team they play the same system, same formation and same style. This means when squad players/reserves are called upon they're already used to the system and know what to expect.

If we haven't already this is certainly something we should adopt. At times today (and most of the season) our players look up and have no idea what to do apart from pass it sideways or backwards. We lack movement and invention and this is basic stuff that you learn in training.

Simple drills like playing two touch is schoolboy stuff but is such a great learning curve. It teaches players to be alert, aware and urgent, three things we are in desperate need of at times.

I've seen too many long balls and hopeful hoofs and I think our training needs to be seriously looked at. I'm hoping that Ramos is thinking once he improves the fitness things like this can be put into place, but I really do wonder what we do in training sometimes!
 

stemark44

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Mar 17, 2005
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All the things you mentioned we already do in our youth teams and in training.The only thing we lack is world class players!
 

Black

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May 21, 2007
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We lack movement. Its just pass and stand still no pass and move no one want to create an option for the guy who has the ball, players seem to want the ball with out moving or going forward
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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We do it in snatches. But Berbatov and keane are particularly guilty,\especially Keane. far too often a midfielder picks up the ball and wants to drive forward only to look up and see Keane and Berbatov standing static 3 yards apart in the "D". They don't pull their markers about enough to create space for midfielders/wide players to move into. We also lack quality creativity. We are good at retaining possession but it often breaks down in the final 3rd without a good chance being made because of the strikers lack of intelligent movement or someone who has that instantaneous spark of creation. Berbatov does it occasionally.
 

joey55

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May 20, 2005
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As much as the result was a good one today, I've come to realise there is a lot of things we aren't doing, basic things, things that start on the training ground.

As much as it pains me to admit it, we can learn a lot from our neighbours, namely their coach.

From first team to youth team they play the same system, same formation and same style. This means when squad players/reserves are called upon they're already used to the system and know what to expect.

If we haven't already this is certainly something we should adopt. At times today (and most of the season) our players look up and have no idea what to do apart from pass it sideways or backwards. We lack movement and invention and this is basic stuff that you learn in training.

Simple drills like playing two touch is schoolboy stuff but is such a great learning curve. It teaches players to be alert, aware and urgent, three things we are in desperate need of at times.

I've seen too many long balls and hopeful hoofs and I think our training needs to be seriously looked at. I'm hoping that Ramos is thinking once he improves the fitness things like this can be put into place, but I really do wonder what we do in training sometimes!

This is probably true, but you can't just teach them. Wenger also has and I believe this to be his strongest asset, arguably the best scouting network in the world. He knows how he wants his teams to play, but he also realises that central to this is to sign the players with the ability to fit into his system. The Africans aside, all the other players he's signed seem to have been very well regarded and highly technically gifted. Every coach has an ideal way of playing, but to achieve this they must have suitable players. Wenger could spend months with our players and still wouldn't get them close to playing with the fluidity of his Arsenal side.
 

SpurSince57

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Jan 20, 2006
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He's also had over ten years to set things up the way he wants; Jol (and now Ramos) have had three. He also, as has been said many times, started off with a far more secure foundation.
 

Gilzeanking

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May 7, 2005
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We do it in snatches. But Berbatov and keane are particularly guilty,\especially Keane. far too often a midfielder picks up the ball and wants to drive forward only to look up and see Keane and Berbatov standing static 3 yards apart in the "D". They don't pull their markers about enough to create space for midfielders/wide players to move into. We also lack quality creativity. We are good at retaining possession but it often breaks down in the final 3rd without a good chance being made because of the strikers lack of intelligent movement or someone who has that instantaneous spark of creation. Berbatov does it occasionally.

The thought of Berby's departure in the summer (if all goes well)....is completely terrifying .
 

Vegas

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Jul 28, 2006
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I think learning to play against them would be a start. See Boro yesterday...any team that gets into them has a chance. We don't seem to do that.
 
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