Leicester "strange finances" under investigation for breaking FFP

[WalkerboyUK]

Man City did get punished, except that was UEFA's FFP so resulted in a fine and a reduced CL squad. The FFP Leicester are being investigated for infringing however, is the Football League's. Not sure if any teams have been punished already and if so what it was.

Bournemouth - Fine still to be implemented
Fulham, Forest & Bolton - Transfer ban
QPR - £8 million fine
Millwall - no punishment implemented as they were relegated to League 1

No-one has had points deducted, so I can't see anything more than a fine being likely.

 

[max cady]

Bournemouth - Fine still to be implemented
Fulham, Forest & Bolton - Transfer ban
QPR - £8 million fine
Millwall - no punishment implemented as they were relegated to League 1

No-one has had points deducted, so I can't see anything more than a fine being likely.

I thought Boro lost points

 

[dagraham]

We really are scraping the barrel now.

They are not going to get points deducted and unless they bottle it big time they are going to win the league.

We better get used to it.

 

[eViL]

Man City did get punished, except that was UEFA's FFP so resulted in a fine and a reduced CL squad. The FFP Leicester are being investigated for infringing however, is the Football League's. Not sure if any teams have been punished already and if so what it was.

What's the difference? Surely if City are doing it in Europe they're doing it in England.

Fucking bullshit if you ask me.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I thought Boro lost points

Middlesbrough??
3 points deducted..... in 1997

Leeds also had transfer ban for failing FFP in 2014/15

 

[nightgoat]

What's the difference? Surely if City are doing it in Europe they're doing it in England.

Fucking bullshit if you ask me.

I think the remit of UEFA's was to prevent clubs from qualifying for European competition through financial irregularities, hence why Liverpool got off despite failing the requirements by a big margin because they weren't in Europe that season. The Football League created their own FFP regulations which were more suitable for clubs in the Championship and Leagues One and Two.

 

[talkshowhost86]

Drug taking?

Financial irregularities?

Next thing will be someone accusing them of being part of ISIS.

 

[nightgoat]

Middlesbrough??
3 points deducted..... in 1997

That was for failing to fulfil a league fixture.

 

[Shea]

I wouldn't even want to win it due to points being docked for this

It it were for match fixing or doping yea but this isn't an offense that warrants a point deduction and we wouldn't be true champions if we won it that way

 

[WalkerboyUK]

That was for failing to fulfil a league fixture.

I was more pointing out that the only time they had a points deduction was in 1997, rather than the reason why.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I wouldn't even want to win it due to points being docked for this

It it were for match fixing or doping yea but this isn't an offense that warrants a point deduction and we wouldn't be true champions if we won it that way

Except, if the finances were re-adjusted in a way that allowed them to boost their spending in the transfer market, that allowed them to:
a) win the Championship title
b) stay in the PL

 

[Lilbaz]

Before you lot start talking about points deductions this is the football league investigating not the premier league.
The football league will not be able to do anything unless leicester are relegated (ala qpr) even then it will be a fine.
The premier league will not give a fuck either unless they have broken epl ffp rules over the last two years.

 

[Shea]

Except, if the finances were re-adjusted in a way that allowed them to boost their spending in the transfer market, that allowed them to:
a) win the Championship title
b) stay in the PL

In a league where the likes of man city, man utd and Chelsea spend way more than leicester have I just don't think the offense would register as something worthy of a points deduction

I'm pretty sure we ourselves have spent more than them anyway

I'm also not sure I like the rules of FFP it just seems in place to secure the status quo so the biggest richest clubs can continue buying the best players

I am all for punishments being in place for rule breaking - but it would seem more appropriate to have some kind of transfer embargo than a deduction

It would be nice to be crowned champions still I guess but could any one really see ourselves as true champions if we finished below them only to be given the title because they were deducted points for spending more than they earned?

 

[Japhet]

The amount of money involved is probably about the same as Yaya Toure's wages. FFP has no teeth and Leicester should ignore it just like City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. Man Utd are 750m in debt aren't they? If the big fish are immune the minnows should be as well IMO.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

In a league where the likes of man city, man utd and Chelsea spend way more than leicester have I just don't think the offense would register as something worthy of a points deduction

I'm pretty sure we ourselves have spent more than them anyway

I'm also not sure I like the rules of FFP it just seems in place to secure the status quo so the biggest richest clubs can continue buying the best players

I am all for punishments being in place for rule breaking - but it would seem more appropriate to have some kind of transfer embargo than a deduction

It would be nice to be crowned champions still I guess but could any one really see ourselves as true champions if we finished below them only to be given the title because they were deducted points for spending more than they earned?

It's not about how much is spent - it's about how that cash was generated and whether or not it fits into the % quota that was set.

 

[Lilbaz]

Again people this has nothing to do with the premier league.

The football league and the premier league are two different organisations with different rules. And breaking the rule of one will not effect you if you are in the other. QPR pissed on the ffp while in the championship. But they got promoted so didn't face any punishment until they got relegated. Even then it was an £8m fine.

 

[Shea]

It's not about how much is spent - it's about how that cash was generated and whether or not it fits into the % quota that was set.

Yes I am aware of the rules

But as I said I don't like the way the rules are in place to protect the bigger established richer clubs anyway

And I just don't think it's an offense that warrants anything like a points deduction when you put the amounts being talked about in to context (compared to other clubs expenditure)

 

[Lilbaz]

The amount of money involved is probably about the same as Yaya Toure's wages. FFP has no teeth and Leicester should ignore it just like City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc. Man Utd are 750m in debt aren't they? If the big fish are immune the minnows should be as well IMO.

Debt has nothing to do with ffp.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

Yes I am aware of the rules

But as I said I don't like the way the rules are in place to protect the bigger established richer clubs anyway

And I just don't think it's an offense that warrants anything like a points deduction when you put the amounts being talked about in to context (compared to other clubs expenditure)

I agree that talk of points deduction is pointless as it won't happen.
It hasn't happened before, and Bournemouth only got a fine for doing similar.

 

[Japhet]

Debt has nothing to do with ffp.

Yes, I know that. However, Man Utd have maintained their position at the top through massive debt which in my mind is more of an issue than the miniscule (by comparison) amount under scrutiny at Leicester. City have circumvented the rules by extremely dubious 'sponsorship' deals which are donations in all but name. It smacks of sour grapes from the big boys to go after Leicester and would be nit picky. The whole FFP thing is a fiasco.