Let's All Laugh At... let's all laugh at United

[muppetman]

Wonderful reading for the rest of us, then.

It is, but it makes you wonder what they could do if they hadn't been so appallingly run over the last decade or so. The dominance of Fergie just wouldn't be possible now with all the other stupidly wealthy clubs, but they should be in the mix.

Wonder if INEOS can sort them out.

 

[rossdapep]

In fairness we were lucky not to 3 down at halftime. But second half we really played some great stuff we took our chances.

Think that is an exaggeration. Yes, maybe 1 down but some of those were half-chances and one offside.

We then finished the half strongly and 1-1 would easily have been fair at HT

 

[only1waddle]

Think that is an exaggeration. Yes, maybe 1 down but some of those were half-chances and one offside.

We then finished the half strongly and 1-1 would easily have been fair at HT

indeed, and Fernandes has only scored 2 headers in the PL so the odds of conversion would have been low, and it wasn't a sitter for someone who isn't that good in the air

 

[Frozen_Waffles]

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Had to check some of them wages, wow.

https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...ill-ranking-2023-24-man-utd-liverpool-arsenal

United on 200m, to our 91. Just to check this United earned a whopping 780m (dollars) compared to our 590m in revenue from 2023.

About 150m pounds of difference, taking away the difference in wages and considering our 2023 revenue doesn't include champions league for us.

We are probably roughly on par with Manchester United financially. I mean obviously United have been run by idiots and we're probably the best run club in the country, but still.

435k a week for Rashford though, that's absoloute bonkers

 

[g_harry]

Think that is an exaggeration. Yes, maybe 1 down but some of those were half-chances and one offside.

We then finished the half strongly and 1-1 would easily have been fair at HT

Fair enough just had a re-look at highlights, yes they created 3 massive chances but one was offside. We actually had hit post and bar too. But we were lucky to go in level, again as I said doesn't take away from our second half performance.

 

[Flynn]

Had to check some of them wages, wow.

https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...ill-ranking-2023-24-man-utd-liverpool-arsenal

United on 200m, to our 91. Just to check this United earned a whopping 780m (dollars) compared to our 590m in revenue from 2023.

About 150m pounds of difference, taking away the difference in wages and considering our 2023 revenue doesn't include champions league for us.

We are probably roughly on par with Manchester United financially. I mean obviously United have been run by idiots and we're probably the best run club in the country, but still.

435k a week for Rashford though, that's absoloute bonkers

Rashford ran his contract down but who else would have even gone to half that.
When you consider that Lingard earned more than Kane for a long time, the Man Utd name isn’t a pull anymore, only the wages.

A lot of the decisions they make seem fueled by vanity. “What do you mean Anthony isn’t for sale? Here’s £100m”.

 

[cwy21]

Had to check some of them wages, wow.

https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...ill-ranking-2023-24-man-utd-liverpool-arsenal

United on 200m, to our 91. Just to check this United earned a whopping 780m (dollars) compared to our 590m in revenue from 2023.

About 150m pounds of difference, taking away the difference in wages and considering our 2023 revenue doesn't include champions league for us.

We are probably roughly on par with Manchester United financially. I mean obviously United have been run by idiots and we're probably the best run club in the country, but still.

435k a week for Rashford though, that's absoloute bonkers

United spending more than the NFL salary cap which is for a 53 man roster is something.

 

[spurs mental]

Good lord.

 

[Marty]

Good lord.

I don't get football fans in general who hype their players up as "best in Europe" and so on, especially when they're injured. Arsenal fans are the worst for it, but our fans do that as well.

Shaw when fit over a period of time is a top five left back in the league. But stating he's the best in Europe creates an expectation of him being something he just isn't.

 

[jurgen]

Had to check some of them wages, wow.

https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...ill-ranking-2023-24-man-utd-liverpool-arsenal

United on 200m, to our 91. Just to check this United earned a whopping 780m (dollars) compared to our 590m in revenue from 2023.

About 150m pounds of difference, taking away the difference in wages and considering our 2023 revenue doesn't include champions league for us.

We are probably roughly on par with Manchester United financially. I mean obviously United have been run by idiots and we're probably the best run club in the country, but still.

435k a week for Rashford though, that's absoloute bonkers

If those numbers are true, then Arsenal seem to be way overspending and Arteta is probably the most backed yet least achieving manager in world football - outside of Utd of course who seem like a circus. Villa also being financially doped at a smaller scale?

 

[allatsea]

If I were the new 25% owner of Man U there is no way I would allow ETH to decide who is bought and who is sold. He just doesn't have the judgement of players that is required. So many very poor purchases/loans of such high wages and so little progress.

 

[rossdapep]

If I were the new 25% owner of Man U there is no way I would allow ETH to decide who is bought and who is sold. He just doesn't have the judgement of players that is required. So many very poor purchases/loans of such high wages and so little progress.

His coaching this year has been shocking.

Its almost like he shit himself after the results last season and decided that he cant be playing that expansive football he did at Ajax, so they were gonna go direct.

Ange proving him wrong on all levels.

United fans keep using the League Cup as a reason to keep going with him but even Juande Ramos won that with us and bombed in the league.

At some point you have to realise that the coach is at fault.

 

[BorjeSpurs]

He hasn't scored a goal in over 6 months at Old Trafford and then does this 'keep talking' sign to his own home crowd.

lf that is your home grown star player, you have a problem.

 

[easley91]

I actually like Rashford (probably in the minority). One of those who can cause problems, even without scoring.

 

[rossdapep]

I actually like Rashford (probably in the minority). One of those who can cause problems, even without scoring.

For his own teammates?

 

[aliyid]

I actually like Rashford (probably in the minority). One of those who can cause problems, even without scoring.

Rashford for me is the epitome of why Utd are where they are.

He will have moments of brilliance that make you think 'yeah, there's a real player here' and then he'll do nothing for 3-4 games but people will always remember that moment. So when it comes to the fans and media they focus on that one moment of brilliance and make out that 'this is Rashford, just look at how good he can be'.

The problem is that he doesn't do enough in the other 95% of the game to justify the hype. He plays over 30 games in most seasons yet has only scored more than 11 twice and only had double figures in assists once. It's ok, but it's not £435k/wk level returns.

Utd will never return to where they want to be all the time they have to rely on players like Rashford, Martial, Hojland, Anthony

 

[Maxtremist]

Rashford for me is the epitome of why Utd are where they are.

He will have moments of brilliance that make you think 'yeah, there's a real player here' and then he'll do nothing for 3-4 games but people will always remember that moment. So when it comes to the fans and media they focus on that one moment of brilliance and make out that 'this is Rashford, just look at how good he can be'.

The problem is that he doesn't do enough in the other 95% of the game to justify the hype. He plays over 30 games in most seasons yet has only scored more than 11 twice and only had double figures in assists once. It's ok, but it's not £435k/wk level returns.

Utd will never return to where they want to be all the time they have to rely on players like Rashford, Martial, Hojland, Anthony

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I kind of agree but for different reasons. I think Rashford is a player that Man Utd need. An academy kid who's pretty good. England international and all that. But Rashford cannot and should not be your 'best' attacker. He shouldn't be the number 1 option on any team... but Man Utd basically use him like that. And Rashford is never going to be that person.

Like last season he'll have his patches of being good and can somewhat consistently be productive... but he shouldn't be the A option or who you build a champions league/title challenging team around.

 

[rossdapep]

Rashford for me is the epitome of why Utd are where they are.

He will have moments of brilliance that make you think 'yeah, there's a real player here' and then he'll do nothing for 3-4 games but people will always remember that moment. So when it comes to the fans and media they focus on that one moment of brilliance and make out that 'this is Rashford, just look at how good he can be'.

The problem is that he doesn't do enough in the other 95% of the game to justify the hype. He plays over 30 games in most seasons yet has only scored more than 11 twice and only had double figures in assists once. It's ok, but it's not £435k/wk level returns.

Utd will never return to where they want to be all the time they have to rely on players like Rashford, Martial, Hojland, Anthony

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If he was around in the Fergie era he would not have been a starter most weeks.

He would have been one of those who is in and out and used to help win games where they need extra fire power. Maybe like how Solskjaer was used.

He would never have been the main striker as he just doesnt do enough in games consistently to be the go to guy.

His off the ball work rate is appalling at times.

 

[PCozzie]

Oh this is all working out very well. Very well indeed...

 

[Misfit]

Cameroon fan must work at the airport.