Let's talk about pace

[nicdic]

I don't think we will agree with each other. I see winning the ball back as by-product from losing possession, not as a gameplan. I don't think losing the ball can be a gameplan. It can be a part of the gameplan, after losing possession. And Klopp himself said that they are a possession team and that they want to dominate possession (and the stats shows it) That's enough for me.

I think you have seperate possession from pressing without the ball. Plan A is to dominate the other team in possession, something Klopp and Poch like to do. What happens after you lose the ball is plan B, and this is the pressing. You don't plan to lose the ball. I know Klopp is crazy, but it's not like he says: Ok guys, lets give the ball away so we can win it back and counter.

Only because we act different after we win the ball back, it doesn't mean that we are a possession team and they are not. Leicester on the other hand is a counter-attacking team. Because they sit back and counter. Liverpool don't

I've never said Klopp plans to lose the ball, you're twisting what I'm saying.

Not all possession is the same.

Not all pressing is the same.

Not all counter-attacking is the same.


Klopp can call his team whatever he wants, but I won't agree with him. They are not a possession team, they are a counter-attack team. Their highest threat is when winning the ball back and attacking quickly. That they do it high up the pitch often doesn't negate the fact that the primary attacking aim is a counter-attack. They pro-actively counter whereas Leicester do it in a much more defensive and reactive way.