Match Threads Man City vs Spurs - Match Thread - Premier League

[BringBack_leGin]

@jurgen i know to you and criticism of Pochettino is an offence punishable by death, but I would really value your opinion as to why at 1-0 down Wanyama and Rose were the correct introductions to turn this match around. We’re all entitled to an opinion, I would be delighted to know yours.

 

[nailsy]

When he takes on ridiculous shots that far more technically gifted players than him would struggle to get on targets despite having 4 attackers in front of him, that makes him a selfish git who plays for himself.

I love Pochettino but he got it wrong today, suggesting otherwise is blind, and as for Rose, I know all his recent media attention means criticising him is tantamount to treason, but after a few good years he had reverted to the self serving player who was only interested in number one.

We've barely got enough fit players to put a team out, but you want to criticise the manager for team selection? Janssen hasn't played for us for 20 months, but you think he'd be a better replacement for Dele than Rose?
As for Rose being selfish for taking a shot when we need a goal is that seriously your reason for thinking he's selfish? Because he made a bad choice? Why do I think you're just taking about that interview?

 

[DenverSpur]

We lost today because defenders and their coaches are more focused on being able to play the ball out from the back. Three centre backs and another at right wingback but when a cross comes in from the left the league’s top goalscorer(Aguero) is completely unmarked and then has the time to head it back across to Foden who is also unmarked. I watched City against CP last week and the commentator pointed out that for City’s first goal the full back (Van Anarnault) had allowed Sterling on his inside and said we’re more interested in coaching fullbacks to be Great going forward that they’ve forgot how to defend. Defenders now mark space/zones not players. Space/zones don’t score goals do players do so for gods sake mark them. It’s not just Spurs I see it all the tine ball comes into the area and the attacking teams top scorer is unmarked! Criminal.

 

[dagraham]

What’s he saying that’s bad? Seems ok

Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola: "Both teams have incredible players with heart and personality. It was a real tough game after our mental defeat on Wednesday and we knew we could have lost the Premier League today.
"As a footballer, I could not have done what my players have done today. The title is still in our hands.
"We've been on a remarkable run, playing against an incredible team like Tottenham and fighting for the Premier League with the best Liverpool team ever, one of the best teams I've seen in my life.
"We'll fight until the end and see how far we get."

Without trying to sound too much like my missus, it’s not necessarily what he says, but the way he says it.

He’s often asked a simple, reasonable question and then looks at the interviewer like he’s just asked him to explain quantum physics.

Either that or it’s a manner of reply suggesting how dare he be asked that question or make that point.

It’s very odd mix of disdain, passive aggressiveness and social awkwardness..... or just being a bit of a bellend.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

@BringBack_leGin , fella, you know me pretty well by now, so hopefully you'll not take offence to this.

You're coming across as pretty bitter in today's posts. Almost as though Rose's previous press chats have got under your skin & pissed you off so much at the time that you're just unable to move on from it, or forgive him for them?

Similar with Poch too. As though previous weird team selections & tactical decisions (and I'll admit there's been some bloody weird ones) have now left you just feeling he's incompetent, or not up to the job?

I honestly believe Poch was very much hamstrung by an absolutely shattered & injury decimated squad today, and did the best he could with the tools he had.

Say he'd done as you wished today, and brought on more attacking options than Wanyama & Rose, only for those options to get injured & we're even shorter on such options in the much more vital to win upcoming matches, and we're struggling for goals in any of those fixtures. What would we do then?

Nobody & nothing is perfect buddy.

As I said at the start of this novel (sorry for the length) this is posted with no malice or judgement towards yourself. I'm just trying to say you're coming across as bitter.

Peace.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

We've barely got enough fit players to put a team out, but you want to criticise the manager for team selection? Janssen hasn't played for us for 20 months, but you think he'd be a better replacement for Dele than Rose?
As for Rose being selfish for taking a shot when we need a goal is that seriously your reason for thinking he's selfish? Because he made a bad choice? Why do I think you're just taking about that interview?

Probably because you dislike me and it fits your misconception. It’s ok, you do you

 

[Japhet]

We lost today because defenders and their coaches are more focused on being able to play the ball out from the back. Three centre backs and another at right wingback but when a cross comes in from the left the league’s top goalscorer(Aguero) is completely unmarked and then has the time to head it back across to Foden who is also unmarked. I watched City against CP last week and the commentator pointed out that for City’s first goal the full back (Van Anarnault) had allowed Sterling on his inside and said we’re more interested in coaching fullbacks to be Great going forward that they’ve forgot how to defend. Defenders now mark space/zones not players. Space/zones don’t score goals do players do so for gods sake mark them. It’s not just Spurs I see it all the tine ball comes into the area and the attacking teams top scorer is unmarked! Criminal.

That's what makes a top scorer. Defenders are trying to keep an eye on the ball and anticipate what's going to happen next and a lot of the time they hedge their bets. Top strikers are able to lose the defenders in those situations - not every time, but enough times to bag a load of goals. Alderweireld got a bit of flack today for not picking up Foden but it looked to me like he expected Silva to cut back and go for the byeline. Instead he found Aguero. Another day, Toby makes the right choice and people say he's amazing.

 

[SugarRay]

Without trying to sound too much like my missus, it’s not necessarily what he says, but the way he says it.

He’s often asked a simple, reasonable question and then looks at the interviewer like he’s just asked him to explain quantum physics.

Either that or it’s a manner of reply suggesting how dare he be asked that question or make that point.

It’s very odd mix of disdain, passive aggressiveness and social awkwardness..... or just being a bit of a bellend.

Pep is an absolute fucking ****, make no mistake

Spoilt, hypocritical wanker

 

[mattie g]

We lost today because defenders and their coaches are more focused on being able to play the ball out from the back. Three centre backs and another at right wingback but when a cross comes in from the left the league’s top goalscorer(Aguero) is completely unmarked and then has the time to head it back across to Foden who is also unmarked. I watched City against CP last week and the commentator pointed out that for City’s first goal the full back (Van Anarnault) had allowed Sterling on his inside and said we’re more interested in coaching fullbacks to be Great going forward that they’ve forgot how to defend. Defenders now mark space/zones not players. Space/zones don’t score goals do players do so for gods sake mark them. It’s not just Spurs I see it all the tine ball comes into the area and the attacking teams top scorer is unmarked! Criminal.

Man City, who have a +65 goal difference or someshit, scored *one* goal on us today, and we didn’t take our gilt-edged chances. That’s why we lost.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Pep is an absolute fucking ****, make no mistake

Spoilt, hypocritical wanker

Don't suppose you fancy climbing off that fence to tell us all what you really think?

 

[nailsy]

Probably because you dislike me and it fits your misconception. It’s ok, you do you

Huh? I've been reading your posts since before I started posting on here and you've usually got something interesting to say. In fact my first ever post on the site was a reply to one of your posts. If I ever met you I'd happily buy you a pint.
I don't agree with what you've said today though. Maybe it's just me, but there seems more to it than what's happened today.
Let's just agree to disagree on this one?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Man City, who have a +65 goal difference or someshit, scored *one* goal on us today, and we didn’t take our gilt-edged chances. That’s why we lost.

And the same Man City that have lost 1 league game at home all season & that was back in December.

 

[slartibartfast]

Man City, who have a +65 goal difference or someshit, scored *one* goal on us today, and we didn’t take our gilt-edged chances. That’s why we lost.

Thats what was a bit annoying. Of all the great defending and play we did today it was a total amateur brain fart of a goal to give away.
Maybe thats really why football boots are like slippers these days, its so strikers can creepy up behind you without you noticing lol.
Should put bells on them.

 

[chinaman]

Pep is an absolute fucking ****, make no mistake

Spoilt, hypocritical wanker

He looked shit in his undershirt today.

 

[stevenurse]

Fuck it. Its not the worst result and we win our remaining (very winnable) games, we're in the CL again. It even helps to keep the dream of Liverpool bottling the league alive which I'm all for. Don't be too downbeat tonight. It was needs must after a massive performance in the week. No doubt some of the changes were pre-arranged anyway

 

[dimiSpur]

Even before I saw the team, I didn't harbour much hope for today's game. Neither did I care after Wednesday. Not because I don't understand the position we're in or because I lack faith/ambition, but purely because I expected us to field a weakened side and I knew City would be out to get us. Also, chasing City around for 90 mins is hard, never mind twice in 4 days.

But then the game started and despite their possession, we had the best chances. In the end, I was bitterly disappointed with the narrow defeat, but equally heartened with the performance in what were very, very difficult circumstances.

And for all those lamenting Poch and his subs, we didn't have any attacking options on the bench. He was never going to bring Janssen on.

Also, I think Wanyama and Rose, though not great, gave us a big energy boost in the middle and gave us a better foothold in the game.

 

[slartibartfast]

What I've learnt, and so should we all if we havent already, from this match and the Huddersfield match is that we have a very good squad of players who can all play together, are singing from the same hymn sheet, and Poch knows exactly what they are capable of doing. His faith in their ability has done wonders.
Unbelievable Jeff.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

It was disappointing we didn’t take at least one point today. But let that sink in. We played City for the third time in quick succession and the margins were really fine. That’s on a threadbare squad and two windows without buying players. That’s against a team that’s been ridiculously expensive to assemble, cantered the league last year and had reasonable expectations of winning the Champions League this year- five days ago the quadruple was mentioned as a realistic possibility.

They were time wasting with at least 15 minutes of the game to go. We played two players out of position. Janssen was on the bench. We had more opportunities than them, and on another day would have taken them. What we managed today was actually really impressive and bodes well. This is a hard team Poch is cultivating. This has been a tough, bruising campaign and I’m sure we’ll grow stronger as a consequence.

We nearly had them today when almost everyone was expecting, quite reasonably given our situation, an absolute hiding

 

[JCRD]

It was disappointing we didn’t take at least one point today. But let that sink in. We played City for the third time in quick succession and the margins were really fine. That’s on a threadbare squad and two windows without buying players. That’s against a team that’s been ridiculously expensive to assemble, cantered the league last year and had reasonable expectations of winning the Champions League this year- five days ago the quadruple was mentioned as a realistic possibility.

They were time wasting with at least 15 minutes of the game to go. We played two players out of position. Janssen was on the bench. We had more opportunities than them, and on another day would have taken them. What we managed today was actually really impressive and bodes well. This is a hard team Poch is cultivating. This has been a tough, bruising campaign and I’m sure we’ll grow stronger as a consequence.

We nearly had them today when almost everyone was expecting, quite reasonably given our situation, an absolute hiding

One thing ive been surprised by this season is our tenacity in the face of adversity and by that i mean the injuries piling up. We have one really bad spell coinciding with playing Burnley, Arsenal away and Liverpool, Chelsea away

We are a tenacious resilient and mentally strong team and nothing is more evident of this than in the CL where we were going out with a shitty whimper.

 

[walworthyid]

It was disappointing we didn’t take at least one point today. But let that sink in. We played City for the third time in quick succession and the margins were really fine. That’s on a threadbare squad and two windows without buying players. That’s against a team that’s been ridiculously expensive to assemble, cantered the league last year and had reasonable expectations of winning the Champions League this year- five days ago the quadruple was mentioned as a realistic possibility.

They were time wasting with at least 15 minutes of the game to go. We played two players out of position. Janssen was on the bench. We had more opportunities than them, and on another day would have taken them. What we managed today was actually really impressive and bodes well. This is a hard team Poch is cultivating. This has been a tough, bruising campaign and I’m sure we’ll grow stronger as a consequence.

We nearly had them today when almost everyone was expecting, quite reasonably given our situation, an absolute hiding

I totally agree. 4 games, 1 win and 3 very narrow defeats. In fact, as much as it goes against what we are used to, tactically, we have their number! If it wasn't for poor finishing, we could have been 3-1 up by half time.

I thought that we were magnificent again, with the exception of the goal.

The biggest testament to our performances against them was the palpable anxiety in that stadium throughout the entire game. They are glad to see the back of us, make no mistake about that. When next seasons fixtures come out and they see us, they will not be looking forward to it.

We have run them very, very, very close!