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Manager Watch: Ange Postecoglou

ultimateloner

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I love his post-match interview today.
He has a can-do attitude and a genuine love for the game; it's more than about winning for him.
He personifies an offensive style of football and his actions are consistent with his words.
You can see why players like Romero will buy into this.
I expect tough times ahead-results wise but the football is not going to disappoint. So be it.
 

Rout-Ledge

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They lost.
Yeah this is kind of being conveniently forgotten. Their plan failed. It nearly didn’t, but it did. Same exact thing happened to us tonight. We nearly equalised. We didn’t. Both plans failed. Unsurprisingly, with 9 men it’s hard to take anything out of a football match.
 

zykos

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Not subbing Udogie was a very odd move, I know we were running low on defenders but playing with 10 and Skipp as a LB for example is better then playing with 9. Like you say the fact he already had fitness issues and we were down to 10 means there would be more strain on him also.
Considering the limited subs we had post half-time. I think he decided to take the risk, but didn’t pan out. One of those things. Cld hv worked out if Udogie didn’t hv a brain fart at that moment. I don’t think it was a ‘wrong’ call. Just a subjective one that cld hv give either way.
 

zykos

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I think, logically, we shld hv just parked the bus, as most teams wld. But Ange is different. He still wanted to ‘have a go’ as he puts it, n still play in a manner where chances would come. Having watched him survive this high-risk manoeuvre for a good 75 mins. And seeing how son, dier or bentacur cld hv potentially levelled it, I can’t really blame him and see a logic to the madness. Love the guy, and proud of our guys, the passion, desire, n how we played despite everything being stacked against us.
 

PaulM

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Considering the limited subs we had post half-time. I think he decided to take the risk, but didn’t pan out. One of those things. Cld hv worked out if Udogie didn’t hv a brain fart at that moment. I don’t think it was a ‘wrong’ call. Just a subjective one that cld hv give either way.
Hindsight is 20/20. Against Woolwich, people were calling for him to be subbed early. Neville was teeing him up to be scapegoated. Yet he dominated the last 60 mins of that game on a yellow.

The second yellow is on Udogie, not Ange.
 

arunspurs

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I find it hilarious that Arsenal , Liverpool fans of getting back at Spurs today is saying, 'you should not have played highline with 9 men'....as if parking the bus in box is a sure way to not lose with 9 men. Ask Liverpool.

Their lectures are so hilarious that, they are trying to nitpick Spurs so badly...a team they didnt give a hope to be in top8, start of season :ROFLMAO: 🤷‍♂️
 

EQP

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For me, this result has confirmed that Ange has secured total buy-in from the players. The fact that they kept attacking with 9 men and maintained that high line speaks to the players understanding that regardless of the situation, the priority is attack.
 
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rossdapep

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How does he always know what to say and how to say it.


Actually.

He is right. We are all complicitm

I have been complaining about the standard and inconsistencies way more than I did say 10-20 years ago.

I think the pressure on them has now become so huge it is actually incredibly damaging to their ability to judge things.

You used to get the odd moan from a disgruntled coach like Warnock. But he didn't really do it in a way that drew attention such as the way Arteta or Klopp have been doing.

You've got players cheating, which has been normalised and VAR to contend with.

Its basically everyone vs them.

But now youve kinda taken a lot of their control away too.

Ange's response is very reflective and is going to make the likes of Arteta and Klopp look even more foolish and disgraced.

Maybe they will listen to what he has said and then have a word with themselves and reign it in. Maybe not.

But I dont believe the way to improving officiating is to behave the way they have. More questions should be put to the refs such as "what do you feel you need to help you have more control?" or "what will help you to make clearer decisions?".

Football clubs are now adopting holistic approaches to their methods. Yet when it comes to referees they want to murder them.
 

jolsnogross

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We used to never evaluate offside based on centimetres. With VAR, linesmen have essentially been made redundant. People keep saying that VAR will never go away now that it's here, but I'm not so sure. These long interruptions and reviews of nearly every goal are separating the professional game from what people play in a park. And this weekend we have reviews of three incidents within a 5-10 second sequence of play. And the screen show is now a major part of the fan experience at a stadium with constant delays and uncertainty about whether to celebrate an goal. All for the worse I reckon.

I think there is a small possibility that a lot of this gets wound back down to just goal line tech and maybe some automated and faultless offside tech that can be based on the sensor on the backs of players' shirts. The rest is up to the ref and I think most of us would prefer real-time decisions and just getting on with things.
 

Ledders Army

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Actually.

He is right. We are all complicitm

I have been complaining about the standard and inconsistencies way more than I did say 10-20 years ago.

I think the pressure on them has now become so huge it is actually incredibly damaging to their ability to judge things.

You used to get the odd moan from a disgruntled coach like Warnock. But he didn't really do it in a way that drew attention such as the way Arteta or Klopp have been doing.

You've got players cheating, which has been normalised and VAR to contend with.

Its basically everyone vs them.

But now youve kinda taken a lot of their control away too.

Ange's response is very reflective and is going to make the likes of Arteta and Klopp look even more foolish and disgraced.

Maybe they will listen to what he has said and then have a word with themselves and reign it in. Maybe not.

But I dont believe the way to improving officiating is to behave the way they have. More questions should be put to the refs such as "what do you feel you need to help you have more control?" or "what will help you to make clearer decisions?".

Football clubs are now adopting holistic approaches to their methods. Yet when it comes to referees they want to murder them.
I agree with this so one thing that needs to happen is when a coach has an outburst like the one Arteta's just had they have to be punished. It should start with a significant touchline ban & then if he does it again within a certain timeframe there needs to be a points deduction.

Managers like Klopp & Arteta behave like they do because they know it puts pressure on refs and influences their decision making in future games. Referees need to be protected from that sort of intimidation
 

PaulM

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How does he always know what to say and how to say it.


What an unbelievable interview. You don’t hear this sort of class and common sense from (m)any other managers. I didn’t want this guy, I was absolutely wrong. He’s exactly who I want coaching our club.
 
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