Manchester United have done nothing wrong, also my opinion of Mr Daniel Levy

[Stoof]

Guys, there's really no need to be rude to the guy here.

He may have a few facts wrong but he's come here posting in relatively good faith - and that can't be said of all our visitors from other clubs. So I'd expect you all to extend at least a luke-warm greeting and treat the guy with respect. He's taken the time to post quite thoroughly - so debate back, and show that you have an ounce of brain jelly between you.

 

[Chimbo!]

Number of mistakes in the article regarding facts.

1. Levy only sanctions deals, he does not chose the player, thats the job of the manager and director of football.
2. The capture of Bostock was not ILLEGAL. It is within the rules to approach any player under 17 as they do not have a professional contract.
3. The Ramos affair was a result in the break down in relationship between Jol and certain board members. It was other board members who wanted to get rid of Jol and they were also the ones to approach Ramos.
4. Tottenham Hotspur are the most financially healthy football club in the premier league. They consistently make profits despite transfer spending comparable to Liverpool and Arsenal.
5. Levy has substantial evidence stretching over 2 years over Manchester United's tapping up over Berbatov, which is illegal.

It is a mistake to underestimate the Spurs chairman as he is the main reason why we have gone from mid-table mediocrity to contenders for a European position.

 

[liberty]

Guys, there's really no need to be rude to the guy here.

He may have a few facts wrong but he's come here posting in relatively good faith - and that can't be said of all our visitors from other clubs. So I'd expect you all to extend at least a luke-warm greeting and treat the guy with respect. He's taken the time to post quite thoroughly - so debate back, and show that you have an ounce of brain jelly between you.

I completely agree Stoof. It's the sort of responses from some here that they complain about from other club's fansites.

I thank the United supporter for coming on here to debate the situation. I also hope he follows up from his original post but I wouldn't blame him if he doesn't with what some people have posted. :clap::roll:

 

[greavesie]

Poor treasure, seems everyone's misquoting him these days... :roll:

love this one ,reminds me of wenger did'nt see it:rofl::rofl::rofl:

 

[tippspur59]

Iam fed up of this crack about spurs stealing Bostock from place, the lad was out of contract so he was fair game end of.

 

[willdayid]

ExcellentDude that is probably the worst and most misguided article written about Tottenham Hotspur (there is no s at the end, you ignorant twat). You speak like all spoilt Manyoo fans who know nothing about football in the real world. Taking up a couple of points. Mr. Levy has kept us debt free and able to challenge for top players when we have no Champions League income and a small ground. He has got us a top manager and fights our corner when so called 'bigger clubs' try to push us around. The fact that he doesn´t bow down to Manyoo makes him well qualified to run the club. Unfortunately idiots like you believe that everyone should migrate to the 'top 4' making football in this country even more pointless than it already is. There are 88 other clubs in this country all who have passionate fans who want someone like Mr. Levy to tell idiots like you and all the other tossers at Manyoo where to go.

John Bostock was out of contract. We offered him one and he joined. If you care to read what Mr. Jordan has said he explains that Tottenham have done nothing wrong. And do you know why - because we haven´t! It is down to the League to set the fee, not Tottenham, you arsehole.

I loathe pretend Manyoo fans with a passion. Now I find them posting pathetic articles on a Tottenham website getting all upset because we haven´t given in and let Berbatov join. If for one moment you actually thought a little about football rather than the pathetic organisation you pretend to support, you might actually realise it is quite good that some of us pathetic little clubs hang on to our players. Football was great once, people like you help to ruin it. Why don´t you piss off back to school.

 

[Samson]

Then neither have Madrid, and United should accept Ronaldo's desire to play for another team in a nicer city for more money, shouldn't they?

 

[dontcallme]

First of all welcome to the forum, I like fans of other clubs coming here to give honest opinions.

I agree that the Berbatov saga is not in the same league as what Real Madrid are doing with Ronaldo but I highly doubt Levy would make an official complaint without proof ala Chelsea tapping up Arnesen.

Questionning Levys running of the club is a mistake though. Before Levy we'd never finished in the top 6 since the prem began and we'd won just one Carling Cup between 1992 and 2000. So he has prgressed our club in a major way.

We have spent a lot of money but virtually all of our signings have been sold at a profit and many players still at the club for the time being would sell at a profit.

Huddlestone and Lennon cost £1 million each.
Berbatov £10.9 mil and Keane £7mil now selling for up to £40 million, so don't worry about our purchases, Bent hasn't been here long enough to be considered a success or failure and like Bale, Charlton will only get the full amount if he fulfils certain aspects such as appearances, goals etc.

Nobody here likes how the Jol saga ended and hopefully lessons have been learnt but i don't see any tapping up of Bentley. If we have made a bid it has been to the club which we are in our rights to do and they don't need to make Bentley aware so he wouldn't be unsettled unless it's by the media. I haven't read anything where we've disclosed publicly an interest in Bentleyover the summer so that point is off the mark.

 

[BOLT]

Ballingarry.....LONG time no see....and it is great to see you back.

Excellent Dude is a Manc, or a version thereof....so what can we expect? SAF is running scarred and he has been found wanting. Let's be clear about who signs players at OT...Fergy suggests (and no doubt pressures, spreads dirt, influences in a 'shady' way....even blackmails (allegedly ofcourse!). Gill is the money man...and the business man (or should be). Fergy would not last 'pissing time' in the real business world....and he knows it. A big fish in a small pond and pond where the other fish are slowly beginning that the OLD Scot is forced to scavenge in the murkier waters?
They say that even the worst offenders regret and repent, at the end of their lives....Maybe we are going to have a party? COYS!

Your opinion Sir, not mine...

Suspect that we'll have to re-sign Reid now.....:roll::grin:

 

[rez9000]

Ok first of all I am a new member here and I will lay my cards on the table, I am a Manchester United supporter. You may consider my viewpoint to be biased, but I always deal with the facts.

OK, first off, respect for nailing your colours to the mast from the off. There have been a number of posters who join just to wind us up. At least you've approached the forum in an open and honest fashion. We'll come to the specifics shortly, but what you are dealing with in this situation are not facts. Facts are when all information is known, and sadly it's lacking from your post. So let it begin...

Sir Alex has never gone public with his interest in Dimitar Berbatov, it has always been done behind closed doors. He has confirmed that the quotes attributed to him in The Sun newspaper did not come from him. Manchester United are as I speak planning legal action against Tottenham for these false accusations. Sir Alex is well within his rights to expect an unconditional apology from Mr Levy and from Spurs.

Ok, now did you really expect SAF to say 'Yes, absolutely, I tapped up another club's player and I stand by my comments'? No. What cannot be denied however, is that the official supporter's club retracted the comments, comments that they published on their website, within days of Levy registering his complaint with the Premier League. As for an apology, Daniel Levy has done nothing to apologise for. He has decided to report Man U to the Premier League, because he believes the club has breached League rules. If he is wrong, then Man U will be exonerated. Any apology from Daniel Levy will, therefore, not be unconditional.

Your manager Juande Ramos has never come out publicly and said that Dimitar Berbatov is not for sale, he has always said that if the right amount of money is offered he could be sold. Those kind of comments only encourage clubs to bid for the player. I think at this stage of Berbatov's career, you have to accept his desire to play Champions League football and win trophies. Manchester United will sign a striker in this transfer window, if Spurs refuse to sell Berbatov then we will move for Huntelaar so this transfer window is really Berbatov's last opportunity to join Manchester United.

It is Spurs policy not to comment on transfer speculation. However, even if Ramos has said that if the offer is right, then Berbatov will be sold does not excuse a rival manager from mentioning the player by name.

Now to Mr Daniel Levy, it is ludicrous that he compares Manchester United's behaviour in this matter to the outrageous actions of Real Madrid regarding Cristiano Ronaldo, there is no comparison.

Real Madrid have launched a media crusade to unsettle Ronaldo, there manager and president both making many comments seemingly on a daily basis. There newspaper Marca has printed numerous false stories and lies claiming that the move was imminent, despite Manchester United PUBLICLY making it clear that the player was not for sale. There is no doubt about Real Madrid's arrogant and disgraceful behaviour. Regarding Berbatov Sir Alex has never even mentioned Berbatov's name in public in relation to a possible transfer, not even once.

.No, not ludicrous. It doesn't matter to what extent the tapping up has been perpertrated, simply that it has occurred, which is what Daniel Levy and the majority of Spurs fans believe has happened. And as I mentioned above, he has had a quote attributed to him by an official source - one that was hastily removed. Or are you suggesting that the supporter's club doesn't check its articles beforehand? Especially ones containing interviews with the manager. I smell damage control...

Mr Daniel Levy is the same man who was talking to various alternative managers behind Martin Jol's back, while publicly stating that he had full faith in Martin Jol. He made such a mess of that situation that Martin Jol ended up being informed that he was about to be sacked via a text message while he was still on the touchline managing his team against Getafe. That is a pretty embarrasing and incompetent way to run a football club.

None of us are comfortable with the way that Martin Jol's departure was handled. However, the board did nothing technically wrong. They may have acted dishonourably, but not in breach of any rules, which is what Man U have been accused of.

I also have to question Mr Levy's credentials to still be in the job at Tottenham, he has sanctioned so many poor signings for Tottenham and wasted alot of money. Mr Levy must be the only man on planet earth who thought that it was a good idea to spend 18 million on Darren Bent, a player who is not even worth half that amount. We all new at the time that what Tottenham needed was a left footed left winger, a deal was in place to sign Martin Petrov for around 8 million but Mr Levy decided to cancel the deal because the player was not young enough and the sell on value would not be enough. Since then he has sold the excellent Jermaine Defoe for only 10 million, who is a much better player than Bent and did not want to leave the club. Clearly that was another significant error of judgement from Mr Levy.

What this has to do with Berbatov I would very much like to know. It occurs that this is just an attempt to divert attention away from the manner in which Man U and the rest of the Top 4 think that they can dominate the League by actively weakening the teams below them.

I would like to remind Spurs fans of how unhappy Crystal Palace are for the way that Tottenham stole John Bostock from their academy. Crystal Palace ended up recieving a tiny amount of money that is nowhere near what John Bostock is worth.

That's Spurs' fault, why? The tribunal decided the amount that Crystal Palace were due for Bostock, not Spurs. We approached Palace fairly, offered them a price, which they refused, which is why the transfer went to a tribunal.

Also, if you have any awareness of what is going on in Spain you will know that Sevilla are very angry at the way that Tottenham pursued and recruited there manager Juande Ramos. Sevilla had no intention of letting there manager go and made that clear, but Tottenham continued to pursue him without Sevilla's permission and Ramos's head was turned by the big increase in wages he was being offered. Sevilla were left without a manager in the middle of the season and the team struggled from that point onwards. This came only a few months after the tragic death of the Sevilla player Antonio Puerta, you can imagine how Sevilla fans must of been feeling at that point. So clearly Tottenham are not completely innocent of any wrong doing themselves.

Actually, Ramos was in the last period of his contract and so we didn't need permission from Seville to talk to Ramos. What the death of Puerta has to do with the price of fish I'm at an absolute loss to understand. It strikes me as more obfuscation in an attempt to muddy the issue.

I should also point out that Paul Ince announced recently that Roque Santa Cruz and David Bentley were not for sale. So it is strange that Tottenham have proceeded to disregard this and bid for David Bentley anyway. This must have unsettled the player and put his future at Blackburn in doubt.

David Bentley wants to leave and has asked for a transfer. Furthermore, Spurs have at no point publicly announced any activity with regard to Bentley. Do you get the distinction? We have not aired our laundry in public, nor have we attempted to destabilise a player by using the media.

In conclusion I want to say that I really like Tottenham Hotspurs as a club, I was delighted when they beat Chelsea in the Carling Cup Final. I have nothing against Tottenham at all, I just want to give the viewpoint of a supporter of another club. I wish Tottenham lots of luck for the coming season.

Thanks

Your point was based on some extremely shakey points, with little basis in fact, even with your protestations to the contrary. You have simply swallowed the opinion of the media and biased fans who aren't in full posession of the facts. Although I have nothing against Man U's fans, the respect I have for your club continues to be eroded by the heavy-handed manner in which you and the rest of the Top 4 treats the rest of the League.

 

[dontcallme]

OK, first off, respect for nailing your colours to the mast from the off. There have been a number of posters who join just to wind us up. At least you've approached the forum in an open and honest fashion. We'll come to the specifics shortly, but what you are dealing with in this situation are not facts. Facts are when all information is known, and sadly it's lacking from your post. So let it begin...

Ok, now did you really expect SAF to say 'Yes, absolutely, I tapped up another club's player and I stand by my comments'? No. What cannot be denied however, is that the official supporter's club retracted the comments, comments that they published on their website, within days of Levy registering his complaint with the Premier League. As for an apology, Daniel Levy has done nothing to apologise for. He has decided to report Man U to the Premier League, because he believes the club has breached League rules. If he is wrong, then Man U will be exonerated. Any apology from Daniel Levy will, therefore, not be unconditional.

It is Spurs policy not to comment on transfer speculation. However, even if Ramos has said that if the offer is right, then Berbatov will be sold does not excuse a rival manager from mentioning the player by name.

.No, not ludicrous. It doesn't matter to what extent the tapping up has been perpertrated, simply that it has occurred, which is what Daniel Levy and the majority of Spurs fans believe has happened. And as I mentioned above, he has had a quote attributed to him by an official source - one that was hastily removed. Or are you suggesting that the supporter's club doesn't check its articles beforehand? Especially ones containing interviews with the manager. I smell damage control...

None of us are comfortable with the way that Martin Jol's departure was handled. However, the board did nothing technically wrong. They may have acted dishonourably, but not in breach of any rules, which is what Man U have been accused of.

What this has to do with Berbatov I would very much like to know. It occurs that this is just an attempt to divert attention away from the manner in which Man U and the rest of the Top 4 think that they can dominate the League by actively weakening the teams below them.

That's Spurs' fault, why? The tribunal decided the amount that Crystal Palace were due for Bostock, not Spurs. We approached Palace fairly, offered them a price, which they refused, which is why the transfer went to a tribunal.

Actually, Ramos was in the last period of his contract and so we didn't need permission from Seville to talk to Ramos. What the death of Puerta has to do with the price of fish I'm at an absolute loss to understand. It strikes me as more obfuscation in an attempt to muddy the issue.

David Bentley wants to leave and has asked for a transfer. Furthermore, Spurs have at no point publicly announced any activity with regard to Bentley. Do you get the distinction? We have not aired our laundry in public, nor have we attempted to destabilise a player by using the media.

Your point was based on some extremely shakey points, with little basis in fact, even with your protestations to the contrary. You have simply swallowed the opinion of the media and biased fans who aren't in full posession of the facts. Although I have nothing against Man U's fans, the respect I have for your club continues to be eroded by the heavy-handed manner in which you and the rest of the Top 4 treats the rest of the League.

Thanks Rez you said what I thought and partly wrote only 10 times better.

 

[General Levy]

Rez for Prez

 

[mikeygold]

love the fact that if its real madrid after ronaldo its ilegal should be stopped and real should be fined, but if its man u on spurs for berba that they have done nothing wrong leaking stories to the media to unsettle a player make sure he knows what he will get if he comes to get him to ask to leave its blindness by man u fans as they are so used to getting their way with the fa and with the refs

 

[Defsta]

Welcome to board dude :hello:



I hope you enjoy this site as much as I do... er which is quite impossible, but anyway :up:

 

[Disconosebleed]

This guy is a wind-up merchant, he's trawling through numerous Spurs forums, copying and pasting the same factually inaccurate nonsense:

http://www.tottenhamhotspurs.tv/for...ing-wrong-also-my-opinion-mr-daniel-levy.html

http://www.spurs11.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2814

http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8690&start=1

Not to say that this discussion isn't worthwhile - it would be interesting to see if ExcellentDude will return with a reply to the pointing out of various factual inaccuracies in his post, most notably:

1) Daniel Levy's only evidence of United wrongdoing is the false quotes in The Sun. Simply not true, as has been documented in the press Levy has submitted a dossier of evidence which begins over a year ago.

2) Martin Jol was sacked during the game against Getafe. He was sacked prior to kick off; a minor issue, but if you're going to state something as fact it would help if it was...you know, a fact.

3) Spurs pulled out of the Petrov deal because of his age - I think I'm right in saying (correct me if I'm wrong) that we pulled out due to City's obscene wage offer and a worry over his injury record.

4) Tottenham 'stole' John Bostock from Palace. Again, it is a FACT that this is false, backed up by the fact that Simon Jordan, who isn't exactly shy about speaking out, has blamed everyone EXCEPT Tottenham in the ordeal - the dodgy FA rules, John Bostock himself AND the kid's parents. The worst you can accuse us of is being morally in the wrong because a player of Bostock's talent is worth more than we paid for him - but the fault lies with the FA's laws, not us.

5) Jermain Defoe was sold against his will. Simply not true - Defoe wanted to be playing regularly and for whatever reason he wasn't getting the chance. We sold him on for a reasonable price given the duration left on his contract, knowing that within a year we would have made very little on him.

That's four (five if I'm right about Petrov) major inaccuracies in his post. I would like to see a reply to my rebuttal of those facts, and then maybe we can move onto the points which are not based in 'fact' but are highly contentious. For example:

5) Let's say you are correct about United's pursuit of Berbatov - innocent until proven guilty and all that. You refute the comparison with the Ronaldo/Madrid issue, but how does the Ronaldo/Madrid issue compare to the manner in which you made your moves for Hargreaves? Van Nistelrooy? Stam? United have a history of guilt in these issues, so complaining when the shoe is on the other foot and a bigger side (yes, Madrid are a bigger side, it's hilarious how many United fans consider United the biggest and best club in the world when they don't come out on top against Madrid or Milan no matter what way you choose to compare sides) is not only hypocritical, it also shows the pursuit of Berbatov in a very negative light.

6) Daniel Levy is not fit to be Spurs chairman. One of the few accurate elements of your post was your attack on Levy's handling of the Jol affair, which was pretty horrendous even if, as is often claimed, Paul Kelmsley was behind it. With that said, in the long run as a business decision it has been overwhelmingly positive - we have progressed under a superior manager and won our first silverware in years, and despite a poor league position we are well placed to achieve even more this season. Levy is a businessman first and a football man second - he is UNARGUABLY a fantastic businessman, which is what you want in a chairman first and foremost. Most people would agree that Bent was not worth £16m, but Levy would have to have been convinced by our top men on the football side of things (at that point either Jol or Commolli) that he was worth the money. Levy has almost unarguably been THE key man for Tottenham over the past few years, moreso than any player, and he is also key to our future. It speaks hugely of his quality that he went from public enemy number one when Jol was sacked, to a hero amongst fans less than a year later.

7) As long as you don't go public with it, it's not against the laws to bid for players who the selling club don't wish to sell.

8) It is absolutely disgusting to bring the death of Antonio Puerta into the Sevilla issue - completely irrelevant and an incredibly low attempt at pushing your side of the argument with regards to Spurs' foul play.

Feel free to respond point-by-point, preferably with some evidence of what you're saying this time.

 

[camaj]

Guys, there's really no need to be rude to the guy here.

No but it helps. Sorry, but the guy is asking for it by regurgitating the old ManU line rather than thinking for himself as he (or she?) claimed when they said "I always deal with the facts". Well only the facts as ED believes them.

Sir Alex has never gone public with his interest in Dimitar Berbatov, it has always been done behind closed doors. He has confirmed that the quotes attributed to him in The Sun newspaper did not come from him. Manchester United are as I speak planning legal action against Tottenham for these false accusations. Sir Alex is well within his rights to expect an unconditional apology from Mr Levy and from Spurs.

Oh dear.

You say that SAF has "confirmed" he was misquoted. That's incorrect. He's claimed he was misquoted. Given the almighty mess he's created it's quite likely he's lying to save his skin.

If ManU are planning legal action against Tottenham then they are A) clearly idiots that have no business running a market stall, let alone a premiership club and B) wasting there time.

There are only two possibilities. Firstly SAF slipped up and did say he was confident of signing Berba or that he didn't and the Sun are lying. If he didn't then the only course of action for ManU is to sue The Sun.

Levy was acting in good faith when accepting those quotes were from SAF. He can not be blamed for doing so. Suing The Sun would force them to prove SAF's comments. I can only assume that ManU know this would backfire.

Even if SAF turns out to be correct, Levy has no way of knowing that. The problem is articles like that are what unsettles players and therefore we must react to them.

I'm not sure why some people believe that we need more than those quotes. The quotes in The Sun are a breach of the rules, they only need to be broken once to unsettle a player and therefore it's enough to report them

Up until then SAF and ManU were very close to crossing the line, talking about buying an unnamed player. There's nothing to stop them from doing it, even if we all know that he was talking about Berba.

Your manager Juande Ramos has never come out publicly and said that Dimitar Berbatov is not for sale, he has always said that if the right amount of money is offered he could be sold.

Juande Ramos can say what he likes, it doesn't mean a damn thing. I think he might have said that any offer for a player would be considered but AFAIK it's not his decision to sell a player. He may express his wish to keep a player or indicate that he doesn't see a future for another, but decisions to sell are down to Comelli and Levy (and probably the board).

Ramos was speaking the literal truth, rather than indicating a desire to sell Berba. Not saying that Berba is not for sale does not automatically mean he is. He's not obligated to say anything, publically or privately. If we want to sell him we'll let the relevent people know, presumably in private.

Those kind of comments only encourage clubs to bid for the player.

It seems like you're under the impression that we're annoyed at a bid. Not at all. Bid, bid like you're lives depend on it. Nothing wrong with bidding. ManU bid for him and we turned it down and that was the end of it as far as we were concerned.

The issue is making public statements that you're bidding on a certain player. That's when a line is crossed. They know that if they can make their interest public, the player might request a move, which suits them.

I think at this stage of Berbatov's career, you have to accept his desire to play Champions League football and win trophies.

He had that at Laverkausen. I don't think he has once said that he really wants to play CL football or win trophies. If that's what he wants, then he's had the latter at spurs and if he stays he'll probably get the former too.

Regarding Berbatov Sir Alex has never even mentioned Berbatov's name in public in relation to a possible transfer, not even once.

Yes, see above. You just choose to believe he was misquoted.

You then go on to attack Levy in a misguided attempt to steer attention and blame away from Fergie. As most people have pointed out the critisms are baseless anyway, but even if Ramos had been guilty of your charges that doesn't absolve Fergie.

I should also point out that Paul Ince announced recently that Roque Santa Cruz and David Bentley were not for sale. So it is strange that Tottenham have proceeded to disregard this and bid for David Bentley anyway. This must have unsettled the player and put his future at Blackburn in doubt.

Spurs have been linked with DB for months. And yet we have never commented on the issue. In recent years we have no idea whether the club are after a particular player or if it's just speculation,until we sign them

There is absolutely nothing wrong with bidding for a player. Clubs do it all the time. As I say, ManU are entitled to bid for the entire Spurs squad and half of the coaching staff, but the issue is making any interest public.

We apparently have put a bid in for DB but the information came from Ince and not spurs. Remember that 99% of the stuff you read is from unattributed sources and can't be proved or disproved. Most of it's made up. The only stuff you can really trust are quotes from named sources since it's one of the few things that can be shown to be false.

 

[ExcellentDude]

I don't understand why everyone is assuming that Sir Alex actually made these comments. They were printed on an obscure scandinavian fansite that has since removed the page and apologised, there is no audio or video of Sir Alex ever having made these comments.

Please can even one of you produce some official quotes from Sir Alex relating to the possible transfer of Dimitar Berbatov, Sir Alex has never publicly said anything like that. Also none of us have seen this supposed evidence that Mr Levy says he has, so we should all wait for the verdict of the Premier League before jumping to wild conclusions.

David Bentley wants to leave and has asked for a transfer. Furthermore, Spurs have at no point publicly announced any activity with regard to Bentley. Do you get the distinction? We have not aired our laundry in public, nor have we attempted to destabilise a player by using the media.

And how is this Bentley situation different to the Berbatov situation, surely Berbatov has also made it clear that he wants to leave. I repeat that none of you can find any official quotes from Sir Alex or anyone connected to Manchester United football club regarding the transfer of Berbatov. When Carrick WAS ASKED about the possibility of Berbatov joining by THE INTERVIEWER of course he said it would be a great signing and what else would you expect him to say. If Modric was asked about his opinion of David Villa possibly joining them would he not say that it would be a great signing.

 

[Glenn_Purvey]

Exceelent Dude,

:bang::bang::bang::bang::bang:

read the facts of the last 3 pages please and save us from this boredom...

fergie got caught with his trousers down and spurs said do one....

can we please lock this thread now...

 

[littlemandefoe]

Because Berbatov is god.

 

[Dibby]

I don't understand why everyone is assuming that Sir Alex actually made these comments. They were printed on an obscure scandinavian fansite that has since removed the page and apologised, there is no audio or video of Sir Alex ever having made these comments.

Please can even one of you produce some official quotes from Sir Alex relating to the possible transfer of Dimitar Berbatov, Sir Alex has never publicly said anything like that. Also none of us have seen this supposed evidence that Mr Levy says he has, so we should all wait for the verdict of the Premier League before jumping to wild conclusions.



And how is this Bentley situation different to the Berbatov situation, surely Berbatov has also made it clear that he wants to leave. I repeat that none of you can find any official quotes from Sir Alex or anyone connected to Manchester United football club regarding the transfer of Berbatov. When Carrick WAS ASKED about the possibility of Berbatov joining by THE INTERVIEWER of course he said it would be a great signing and what else would you expect him to say. If Modric was asked about his opinion of David Villa possibly joining them would he not say that it would be a great signing.

Surely the fact that your Official club site had a story about Berbatovs going to United is prove enough that it's different?