Mauricio Pochettino

[DanielJohnCosta]

I don’t really want to sack Conte but you can see the love has gone. Going to games is a fucking huge chore. Nobody wants to be there where I sit. The style of football, the players and levy have taken the wind fully out of our sales. It’s obvious Conte isn’t staying beyond the summer.

The club needs a lift, and I know it’s a sticking plaster, but bringing him back would do that massively. Fans in the stadium would welcome him back with open arms and forget about the bad times. The atmosphere would be back 100%. I was never as much of a fan of Poch as a lot of fans, he used to infuriate me on occasion but I see no other way to go about it, even if it’s short term.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not back here by April.

look, if we as a club are never going to win anything i'd rather lose with Poch than with anyone else lmao

 

[mkkid]

Poch,was sacked because he lost the dressing room and the results were awful.
we still have LLoris, davis,Sanchez,dier, Moura, kane, son with winks and Ndombele still at the club.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Poch,was sacked because he lost the dressing room and the results were awful.
we still have LLoris, davis,Sanchez,dier, Moura, kane, son with winks and Ndombele still at the club.

Poch, Conte or someone else, I don't think it matters. Most of those players need to be moved on at this point.

 

[Pekoni]

I don’t know if he could get a tune out of these players, but I fear that appointing him is going to regress the club way back. Players we’ve been trying to ship are going to be given second chances, he can’t work with a DOF so Paratici is gone eventually. Soon it’ll be Poch demanding players that we have no chance of getting, while Levy runs around Europe trying to buy dross Poch won’t accept, and we still continue to field the same, not good enough, squad we’ve had for since forever.

 

[Tezza1978]

Poch,was sacked because he lost the dressing room and the results were awful.
we still have LLoris, davis,Sanchez,dier, Moura, kane, son with winks and Ndombele still at the club.

People forget this. No-one disputes that Pochettino was great for us for several years - but:

• His last 9 months were absolutely awful, with the Champs League run massively papering over the cracks (lets be honest - we were VERY fortunate to get to the final)
• Him announcing he would leave if we won the final was quite possibly one of the stupidest things any manager has done while in charge of our club
• The style of football from him was heavily criticised by most on here in the last 9 months of his reign - inverted wingers, far too much sideways passing, not enough creativity, too many defender mistakes - does anyone think that sounds familiar??
• He was far too loyal to players who simply weren't up to standard. Hands up who wants Winks, Sanchez, Ndombele or Lo Celso being given yet more chances? Because that is what is happening if he comes back.
• Poch relied on players like Walker, Vertonghen, Rose and much younger, quicker versions of Son and Kane to play his system of front foot pressing. We don't have the players for that system any more - so will have exactly the same problems of a squad that needs huge upgrades and money being spent on it
• Poch made some terrible transfer decisions. And also was just as inflexible in terms of players he wanted for his system. Yes we know about the windows with no signings. But we also had ITK that he was offered alternatives for his "dream" players and turned every single one of them down.

If Poch returns it means:

• The club has given up trying to win major trophies and we are back to hoping we have a half chance of 4th. That's an appalling lack of ambition - won't encourage any investment and means - why the hell did we even bother investing in the infrastructure just to be an also ran?
• Kane and Son will definitely leave - and I would argue that Romero and Richarlison would be following very quickly - or down tools
• Sacking Conte makes us a laughing stock in world football. Again. And would damage our reputation hugely
• We will NOT be able to attract the same standard of players with Poch in charge -simple as
• Paratici will definitely be off too and as others have pointed out he has had far more hits than misses in terms of signings. No way would I want Poch in charge of signings.
• We would have a short term bounce for a few games then would probably fall away by the end of the season for all the existing reasons I have mentioned.
• Result - squad finishes 5th or 6th - backing is "promised" - we start the season poorly and Poch is gone by November

How anyone can feel this is a sensible plan is beyond me. The argument "I want to feel happier about going to games where we attack on the front foot and give it a go even if we lose" will quickly fade when we start getting tonked 3 or 4 nil by the big teams on a regular basis because we have the same defensive issues and the same keeper who is sadly now not good enough. All with a team with no Kane or Son? That's not a future that I want and I would lose 90% of my interest in following this club if that is what is next.

We all know the bald one is a big blocker and has made countless mistakes. But in terms of the business side he has been more successful- lets hope Lewis' daughter can push him away from meddling in football matters. Get the players in that Conte needs. Back the bloody manager. I'm not getting in to the ethics of the mooted investment but from Trix' ITK something is bubbling under clearly. The Woolwich Wanderers went through their painful rebuild and ignored calls to sack their manager (and he is half the manager Conte is) . We need to do the same.

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[Danfunkel]

People forget this. No-one disputes that Pochettino was great for us for several years - but:

• His last 9 months were absolutely awful, with the Champs League run massively papering over the cracks (lets be honest - we were VERY fortunate to get to the final)
• Him announcing he would leave if we won the final was quite possibly one of the stupidest things any manager has done while in charge of our club
• The style of football from him was heavily criticised by most on here in the last 9 months of his reign - inverted wingers, far too much sideways passing, not enough creativity, too many defender mistakes - does anyone think that sounds familiar??
• He was far too loyal to players who simply weren't up to standard. Hands up who wants Winks, Sanchez, Ndombele or Lo Celso being given yet more chances? Because that is what is happening if he comes back.
• Poch relied on players like Walker, Vertonghen, Rose and much younger, quicker versions of Son and Kane to play his system of front foot pressing. We don't have the players for that system any more - so will have exactly the same problems of a squad that needs huge upgrades and money being spent on it
• Poch made some terrible transfer decisions. And also was just as inflexible in terms of players he wanted for his system. Yes we know about the windows with no signings. But we also had ITK that he was offered alternatives for his "dream" players and turned every single one of them down.

If Poch returns it means:

• The club has given up trying to win major trophies and we are back to hoping we have a half chance of 4th. That's an appalling lack of ambition - won't encourage any investment and means - why the hell did we even bother investing in the infrastructure just to be an also ran?
• Kane and Son will definitely leave - and I would argue that Romero and Richarlison would be following very quickly - or down tools
• Sacking Conte makes us a laughing stock in world football. Again. And would damage our reputation hugely
• We will NOT be able to attract the same standard of players with Poch in charge -simple as
• Paratici will definitely be off too and as others have pointed out he has had far more hits than misses in terms of signings. No way would I want Poch in charge of signings.
• We would have a short term bounce for a few games then would probably fall away by the end of the season for all the existing reasons I have mentioned.
• Result - squad finishes 5th or 6th - backing is "promised" - we start the season poorly and Poch is gone by November

How anyone can feel this is a sensible plan is beyond me. The argument "I want to feel happier about going to games where we attack on the front foot and give it a go even if we lose" will quickly fade when we start getting tonked 3 or 4 nil by the big teams on a regular basis because we have the same defensive issues and the same keeper who is sadly now not good enough. All with a team with no Kane or Son? That's not a future that I want and I would lose 90% of my interest in following this club if that is what is next.

We all know the bald one is a big blocker and has made countless mistakes. But in terms of the business side he has been more successful- lets hope Lewis' daughter can push him away from meddling in football matters. Get the players in that Conte needs. Back the bloody manager. I'm not getting in to the ethics of the mooted investment but from Trix' ITK something is bubbling under clearly. The Woolwich Wanderers went through their painful rebuild and ignored calls to sack their manager (and he is half the manager Conte is) . We need to do the same.

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I’d winner this a million times. Great post.

I love the man, but he wouldn’t be the solution going forward. The head coach isn’t our most pressing issue, it’s, as you said, the owners.

 

[HildoSpur]

People forget this. No-one disputes that Pochettino was great for us for several years - but:

• His last 9 months were absolutely awful, with the Champs League run massively papering over the cracks (lets be honest - we were VERY fortunate to get to the final)
• Him announcing he would leave if we won the final was quite possibly one of the stupidest things any manager has done while in charge of our club
• The style of football from him was heavily criticised by most on here in the last 9 months of his reign - inverted wingers, far too much sideways passing, not enough creativity, too many defender mistakes - does anyone think that sounds familiar??
• He was far too loyal to players who simply weren't up to standard. Hands up who wants Winks, Sanchez, Ndombele or Lo Celso being given yet more chances? Because that is what is happening if he comes back.
• Poch relied on players like Walker, Vertonghen, Rose and much younger, quicker versions of Son and Kane to play his system of front foot pressing. We don't have the players for that system any more - so will have exactly the same problems of a squad that needs huge upgrades and money being spent on it
• Poch made some terrible transfer decisions. And also was just as inflexible in terms of players he wanted for his system. Yes we know about the windows with no signings. But we also had ITK that he was offered alternatives for his "dream" players and turned every single one of them down.

If Poch returns it means:

• The club has given up trying to win major trophies and we are back to hoping we have a half chance of 4th. That's an appalling lack of ambition - won't encourage any investment and means - why the hell did we even bother investing in the infrastructure just to be an also ran?
• Kane and Son will definitely leave - and I would argue that Romero and Richarlison would be following very quickly - or down tools
• Sacking Conte makes us a laughing stock in world football. Again. And would damage our reputation hugely
• We will NOT be able to attract the same standard of players with Poch in charge -simple as
• Paratici will definitely be off too and as others have pointed out he has had far more hits than misses in terms of signings. No way would I want Poch in charge of signings.
• We would have a short term bounce for a few games then would probably fall away by the end of the season for all the existing reasons I have mentioned.
• Result - squad finishes 5th or 6th - backing is "promised" - we start the season poorly and Poch is gone by November

How anyone can feel this is a sensible plan is beyond me. The argument "I want to feel happier about going to games where we attack on the front foot and give it a go even if we lose" will quickly fade when we start getting tonked 3 or 4 nil by the big teams on a regular basis because we have the same defensive issues and the same keeper who is sadly now not good enough. All with a team with no Kane or Son? That's not a future that I want and I would lose 90% of my interest in following this club if that is what is next.

We all know the bald one is a big blocker and has made countless mistakes. But in terms of the business side he has been more successful- lets hope Lewis' daughter can push him away from meddling in football matters. Get the players in that Conte needs. Back the bloody manager. I'm not getting in to the ethics of the mooted investment but from Trix' ITK something is bubbling under clearly. The Woolwich Wanderers went through their painful rebuild and ignored calls to sack their manager (and he is half the manager Conte is) . We need to do the same.

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Everybody needs to read this and think long and hard about those last 9 months under Poch. We all loved the guy but most of us felt it was right he left.

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

People forget this. No-one disputes that Pochettino was great for us for several years - but:

• His last 9 months were absolutely awful, with the Champs League run massively papering over the cracks (lets be honest - we were VERY fortunate to get to the final)
• Him announcing he would leave if we won the final was quite possibly one of the stupidest things any manager has done while in charge of our club
• The style of football from him was heavily criticised by most on here in the last 9 months of his reign - inverted wingers, far too much sideways passing, not enough creativity, too many defender mistakes - does anyone think that sounds familiar??
• He was far too loyal to players who simply weren't up to standard. Hands up who wants Winks, Sanchez, Ndombele or Lo Celso being given yet more chances? Because that is what is happening if he comes back.
• Poch relied on players like Walker, Vertonghen, Rose and much younger, quicker versions of Son and Kane to play his system of front foot pressing. We don't have the players for that system any more - so will have exactly the same problems of a squad that needs huge upgrades and money being spent on it
• Poch made some terrible transfer decisions. And also was just as inflexible in terms of players he wanted for his system. Yes we know about the windows with no signings. But we also had ITK that he was offered alternatives for his "dream" players and turned every single one of them down.

If Poch returns it means:

• The club has given up trying to win major trophies and we are back to hoping we have a half chance of 4th. That's an appalling lack of ambition - won't encourage any investment and means - why the hell did we even bother investing in the infrastructure just to be an also ran?
• Kane and Son will definitely leave - and I would argue that Romero and Richarlison would be following very quickly - or down tools
• Sacking Conte makes us a laughing stock in world football. Again. And would damage our reputation hugely
• We will NOT be able to attract the same standard of players with Poch in charge -simple as
• Paratici will definitely be off too and as others have pointed out he has had far more hits than misses in terms of signings. No way would I want Poch in charge of signings.
• We would have a short term bounce for a few games then would probably fall away by the end of the season for all the existing reasons I have mentioned.
• Result - squad finishes 5th or 6th - backing is "promised" - we start the season poorly and Poch is gone by November

How anyone can feel this is a sensible plan is beyond me. The argument "I want to feel happier about going to games where we attack on the front foot and give it a go even if we lose" will quickly fade when we start getting tonked 3 or 4 nil by the big teams on a regular basis because we have the same defensive issues and the same keeper who is sadly now not good enough. All with a team with no Kane or Son? That's not a future that I want and I would lose 90% of my interest in following this club if that is what is next.

We all know the bald one is a big blocker and has made countless mistakes. But in terms of the business side he has been more successful- lets hope Lewis' daughter can push him away from meddling in football matters. Get the players in that Conte needs. Back the bloody manager. I'm not getting in to the ethics of the mooted investment but from Trix' ITK something is bubbling under clearly. The Woolwich Wanderers went through their painful rebuild and ignored calls to sack their manager (and he is half the manager Conte is) . We need to do the same.

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Great post but I had to laugh at this as I'm pretty sure conte said same thing this week lmao

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Everybody needs to read this and think long and hard about those last 9 months under Poch. We all loved the guy but most of us felt it was right he left.

because we didn't know the shit show that was to come

 

[HildoSpur]

because we didn't know the shit show that was to come

Do you honestly think Levy would have backed him to have turned it around?

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

Do you honestly think Levy would have backed him to have turned it around?

in hindsight he would have 100%

 

[HildoSpur]

in hindsight he would have 100%

I think you are living in a dream land if you honestly believe that.

 

[mkkid]

People forget this. No-one disputes that Pochettino was great for us for several years - but:

• His last 9 months were absolutely awful, with the Champs League run massively papering over the cracks (lets be honest - we were VERY fortunate to get to the final)
• Him announcing he would leave if we won the final was quite possibly one of the stupidest things any manager has done while in charge of our club
• The style of football from him was heavily criticised by most on here in the last 9 months of his reign - inverted wingers, far too much sideways passing, not enough creativity, too many defender mistakes - does anyone think that sounds familiar??
• He was far too loyal to players who simply weren't up to standard. Hands up who wants Winks, Sanchez, Ndombele or Lo Celso being given yet more chances? Because that is what is happening if he comes back.
• Poch relied on players like Walker, Vertonghen, Rose and much younger, quicker versions of Son and Kane to play his system of front foot pressing. We don't have the players for that system any more - so will have exactly the same problems of a squad that needs huge upgrades and money being spent on it
• Poch made some terrible transfer decisions. And also was just as inflexible in terms of players he wanted for his system. Yes we know about the windows with no signings. But we also had ITK that he was offered alternatives for his "dream" players and turned every single one of them down.

If Poch returns it means:

• The club has given up trying to win major trophies and we are back to hoping we have a half chance of 4th. That's an appalling lack of ambition - won't encourage any investment and means - why the hell did we even bother investing in the infrastructure just to be an also ran?
• Kane and Son will definitely leave - and I would argue that Romero and Richarlison would be following very quickly - or down tools
• Sacking Conte makes us a laughing stock in world football. Again. And would damage our reputation hugely
• We will NOT be able to attract the same standard of players with Poch in charge -simple as
• Paratici will definitely be off too and as others have pointed out he has had far more hits than misses in terms of signings. No way would I want Poch in charge of signings.
• We would have a short term bounce for a few games then would probably fall away by the end of the season for all the existing reasons I have mentioned.
• Result - squad finishes 5th or 6th - backing is "promised" - we start the season poorly and Poch is gone by November

How anyone can feel this is a sensible plan is beyond me. The argument "I want to feel happier about going to games where we attack on the front foot and give it a go even if we lose" will quickly fade when we start getting tonked 3 or 4 nil by the big teams on a regular basis because we have the same defensive issues and the same keeper who is sadly now not good enough. All with a team with no Kane or Son? That's not a future that I want and I would lose 90% of my interest in following this club if that is what is next.

We all know the bald one is a big blocker and has made countless mistakes. But in terms of the business side he has been more successful- lets hope Lewis' daughter can push him away from meddling in football matters. Get the players in that Conte needs. Back the bloody manager. I'm not getting in to the ethics of the mooted investment but from Trix' ITK something is bubbling under clearly. The Woolwich Wanderers went through their painful rebuild and ignored calls to sack their manager (and he is half the manager Conte is) . We need to do the same.

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This should be our Motto now, its all about 4th and infrastructure projects, i expect a basketball \Ice Hockey arena next.

we cant get rid of Enic, no one is going to spend nearly 3 billion pounds on a club that wins nothing and best players are 30plus. We can how make it difficult and put pressure on them, stop buying ,merchandise and food.
Pick a live game and let the team come out to a empty North stand , unfortunely the fanbase is obsessed with the stadium, training ground and the majority still think Telfon is doing a great job and be thankful we are not Leeds.
What has saved the Enic is Kane, IMHO we have wasted a generational talent. If he doesnt leave this summer he will have wasted his career...

 

[DanielJohnCosta]

I think you are living in a dream land if you honestly believe that.

he's given conte 200m in 2 windows? think that's all Poch had in 5 years

 

[The Scarecrow]

I think it's fair to assume that Poch has learned a few things since we parted ways. That he has matured as a manager. I believe our demise at the end of his reign was caused by several factors. One being that he was beginning to think about other clubs, another being that many of the players who had been so good either weren't there anymore or weren't as good anymore, and the third: he started tinkering to adapt to the new reality, but without succeeding. It's worth noting as well that during our run in in 2018/19 we had severe injury issues, and moving into the next season our new big signings didn't exactly hit the ground running.

If Poch has learned from his mistakes, I personally think this would be an excellent time to start over. We have three excellent, hardworking players in Romero, Bentancur and Kulusevski, two very highly regarded young players in Udogie and Sarr, and I also think Richarlison and Bissouma are players who would be good Poch players.

I welcome him back. He gets the club. In today's football that feels more important than almost anything else.

 

[HildoSpur]

he's given conte 200m in 2 windows? think that's all Poch had in 5 years

That is nowhere and I mean nowhere near enough. We seriously need that every window for the next 4 or 5 windows. Just because we also shafted Poch with backing doesnt mean we are now suddenly backing Conte when the squad clearly needs hundreds of millions of quid spent on it for us even to compete.

 

[Trotter]

That is nowhere and I mean nowhere near enough. We seriously need that every window for the next 4 or 5 windows. Just because we also shafted Poch with backing doesnt mean we are now suddenly backing Conte when the squad clearly needs hundreds of millions of quid spent on it for us even to compete.

No.
We would seriously need that if we continue with a chequebook manager that cannot improve players, and even then based on what he has shown so far with us, there really is no reason to believe he would do that anyway.
We would not need anywhere near that amount with a manager that can do you know something that good football managers can do, actually coach and improve players.

 

[rabbikeane]

We don't have the money you ask for to compete with Chelsea and City (nor did we when we built Pochs first team). Any success at Spurs will have to be by being smarter than our opponents.

 

[HildoSpur]

No.
We would seriously need that if we continue with a chequebook manager that cannot improve players.
We would not need anywhere near that amount with a manager that can do you know something that good football managers can do, actually coach and improve players.

We need maybe 6 new first team players mate, thats before we address the lack of real quality in the rotational players as well. Whoever we have as manager requires very significant investment - many in the team and the squad are on a downward spiral and need replaced and others simply are nowhere near good enough. Sack Conte if you want and bring in a 'project' manager but it will make fuck all difference if they don't get a fortune to spend in the next 4 or 5 windows.

 

[HildoSpur]

We don't have the money you ask for to compete with Chelsea and City (nor did we when we built Pochs first team). Any success at Spurs will have to be by being smarter than our opponents.

We are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world mate, we may not be able to do a City but we can certainly spend a shit ton more than we do.