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rossdapep

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This is the only reason Im thinking it may work.

Poch knows exactly which players are done here. He can tell Levy that when he is accepting the job.

The two biggest problems are whether Poch insists on those players being moved on otherwise he doesn't take the job and then Levy actually listening to him and actually doing it.
 

brasil_spur

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I think it would be interesting to see the outcome of Lo Celso and Ndombele in their second season had Poch been given a season’s grace
Pretty sure it would still be "regularly injured" and "fucking lazy" but who knows? :whistle:

Ultimately the PL is an unforgiving league and neither Lo Celso or Ndombele were ever suited to it. On the flip side players like Bentancur and PEH are very much suited to the PL. Then you have players like Gil that also look totally unsuited, despite all his talent.

If Poch comes back I would imagine his outfield team looks something like:


RB: Emerson | Porro - CB: Romero | Dier - CB: ? | Lenglet - LB: Udogie | Davies
MF: Bissouma | Sarr
MF: Bentancur | ? - MF: PEH | Skipp
AM: ? | ?
FW: Kane | ? - Son | Richarlison

or

RB: Emerson | Porro - CB: Romero | Dier - CB: ? | Lenglet - LB: Udogie | Davies
MF: Bissouma | Sarr
MF: Bentancur | ? - MF: PEH | Skipp
RW: Kulusevksi | ? - LW: Son | Richarlison
FW: Kane
In either scenario we then likely need, at a minimum, to bring in:

New CB x 1
New AM x 1
New RW x 1
New FW / LW x 1

That's 4 signings, on top of what ever we do with the GK situation.

However 2 of those signings are in the £50m+ range (CB and AM), probably needs a total spend of about £170-180m to pull off, in addition to the keeper spend. So in reality not all of that will happen, even when considering player sales.
 

Albertbarich

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This is the only reason Im thinking it may work.

Poch knows exactly which players are done here. He can tell Levy that when he is accepting the job.

The two biggest problems are whether Poch insists on those players being moved on otherwise he doesn't take the job and then Levy actually listening to him and actually doing it.
I'm sure they're already talking even if it's a couple of WhatsApps a week.

The fact Poch is posting about north London and Ossie boasting Poch has joined his local golf club is a massive hint I think

And Poch isn't a young manager desperate for his big break, he knows people are already questioning him so he won't take a job just to fail.

I'm sure if he is coming back which I think he is then he will make it quite clear who he does and doesn't want.
 

A Bit Much

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A reason to be hopeful on a poch appointment is you'd imagine we can quickly identify a few players he would want. I think adding Madisson to our team would make us a lot more creative and easy on the eye for starters. A preseason with udogie and porro at full back with a cm dipping in to cover could be tasty and reminiscent of rose/walker if we're lucky.
 

TOLBINY

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Levy has publicly stated that we will spend what we can afford on players. What we can afford is impacted by European qualification / progress and existing player sales. It doesn't matter if you are Jose, Conte or Poch - the player spending is carefully controlled.
 

Hotspur33

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This is the only reason Im thinking it may work.

Poch knows exactly which players are done here. He can tell Levy that when he is accepting the job.

The two biggest problems are whether Poch insists on those players being moved on otherwise he doesn't take the job and then Levy actually listening to him and actually doing it.
I think there are plenty of clubs who would happily take the players we deem surplus to requirements. The problem I think is, most of our players are on big boy money now that other teams in Europe can’t match.
 

spursfan77

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This is the only reason Im thinking it may work.

Poch knows exactly which players are done here. He can tell Levy that when he is accepting the job.

The two biggest problems are whether Poch insists on those players being moved on otherwise he doesn't take the job and then Levy actually listening to him and actually doing it.

He did it at espanyol


He was ruthless with Wanyama. This is about him but it also should allay people’s fears that Poch won’t be afraid to move out those he doesn’t want. Seems he doesn’t have sentiment for players as much as some people think.

 

TPdYID

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I think there are plenty of clubs who would happily take the players we deem surplus to requirements. The problem I think is, most of our players are on big boy money now that other teams in Europe can’t match.
Isn't this pointing out the obvious? Especially if we're all-but giving players away.

Club A, in an attempt to clear their decks gives away what was once a pricey acquisition and subsidises their wages in the process - this is a no-brainer for Club B who gets in a player for nothing and then asks his old employers for part of the wage.

Ndombele is about to win the league in Italy and we've paid close to half his wage for the season! Napoli have an OPTION, but no obligation. Paid a nominal loan fee and will send him back to the club at the end of the season. He's padded out their squad for 12 months, on affordable wages whilst paying a pittance for his services.

Our business STINKS.

Better recruitment in the first instance prevents the majority of this mess.
 

brasil_spur

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This is Levy 100% in a nutshell.

We need a washing machine and he buys a dryer that can also do the job. Then he claims to have backed the manager by spending £40m on a dryer when in reality the manager wanted a £60m washing machine. What we've found in Paratici is a man who can find either a rare £40m washing machine instead of a dryer (like Romero) or surplus to requirement washing machines that are actually worth more than their cost price (like Bentancur).

If Poch can work with FP and if Levy can stay the fuck away from things then we could step up to the next level. But that's a couple of big IFs right there.
 

Trix

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My opinion is I think we are probably heading this way If you look at the squad we are not far off able to field his 4-2-3-1. A new Keeper and LCB and I think we are pretty set for next season as far as starting 11 goes.

New Keeper

Porro/Emerson
Romero
New LCB
Udogie

Bentancur
Skipp

Kulusevski
Kane
Son

Richarlisson
 

felmani26

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My opinion is I think we are probably heading this way If you look at the squad we are not far off able to field his 4-2-3-1. A new Keeper and LCB and I think we are pretty set for next season as far as starting 11 goes.

New Keeper

Porro/Emerson
Romero
New LCB
Udogie

Bentancur
Skipp

Kulusevski
Kane
Son

Richarlisson
Surprised you're still selecting Kane if, as been reported throughout, that his future rests on Conte's.

Should he depart then the glaringly obvious candidate to slot in the 10 role would be Maddison.
 

Yiddo100

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I do wonder how good Kane would be as a 10 with a proper striker in front. For me he’s at his playmaking best when he drops deeper away from the CBS has space and has 2 wingers charging forward at pace.
still think it’s a couple years to early for him to not be playing as a ST
 

Trix

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Surprised you're still selecting Kane if, as been reported throughout, that his future rests on Conte's.

Should he depart then the glaringly obvious candidate to slot in the 10 role would be Maddison.
I think his signing a new contract rests on Conte.
 

SpursJord

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I think his signing a new contract rests on Conte.
Does it really? I mean in January he was just appointed AIA Global Ambassador, surely they don't appoint him then watch him leave the team they sponsor? That doesn't feel like it makes sense to me.
 

Dougal

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Surprised you're still selecting Kane if, as been reported throughout, that his future rests on Conte's.

Should he depart then the glaringly obvious candidate to slot in the 10 role would be Maddison.
Surprising to pick a Spurs player. Glaringly obvious to pick a Leicester one.

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ComfortablyNumb

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My opinion is I think we are probably heading this way If you look at the squad we are not far off able to field his 4-2-3-1. A new Keeper and LCB and I think we are pretty set for next season as far as starting 11 goes.

New Keeper

Porro/Emerson
Romero
New LCB
Udogie

Bentancur
Skipp

Kulusevski
Kane
Son

Richarlisson
That midfield two still won't stop us being overrun, though, will it? But at least we won't have to make excuses for him, if he gets his favoured formation...
 

Trippier the RB fantastic

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Poch has played 3421 in his last stint at Spurs but will probably prefer 4231 / 433.

In the summer we would need a GK, LCB, AM at the very least .

If we play 4 at the back we could play asemetric FB'S for example Porro, Davies, or Emerson - Udogie the more defensive FB would sit back and make a three man defence when in possession and the other would bomb forward.

If he chooses to start 2 attacking FB'S then I think a 2 man pivot in a 4231 would leave us too open defensively and 433 would probably be better.

He could have Skipp flanked by Hojbjerg and Bentacur then an attacking three out of Kulu, Kane, Son, Peresic, Richarlison, Danjuma.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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This is the only reason Im thinking it may work.

Poch knows exactly which players are done here. He can tell Levy that when he is accepting the job.

The two biggest problems are whether Poch insists on those players being moved on otherwise he doesn't take the job and then Levy actually listening to him and actually doing it.
Great post and yep this is why I’m leaning towards him coming back could work
 
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