Mayweather vs Ortiz, Pacman vs Marquez

[hans]

Both these fight signed for this year,

Floyd/Ortiz set for September, and Pac/JMM for November .. . Looks like it could well be leading up to Floyd vs Pac for next May? We can only hope i guess . . . .

 

[haxman]

Both these fight signed for this year,

Floyd/Ortiz set for September, and Pac/JMM for November .. . Looks like it could well be leading up to Floyd vs Pac for next May? We can only hope i guess . . . .

Pacquiao will destroy Marquez at the higher weight. Mayweather even though he's been inactive for so long should be more than good enough for Ortiz.

Really really hope the big fight happens. It's been too long in the making.

 

[opensaysme]

It should happen. Too much money is involved for it not to.

 

[riggi]

Mayweather has talked about fighting Amir apparently..

 

[opensaysme]

Mayweather has talked about fighting Amir apparently..

Amir has been talking it up. Mayweathers responded. Fight should happen for the love of money.

After watching the Khan
Judah bout Amir has clearly improved in some areas.
He looked carm and collected though he was fighting a boxer clearly past his best he made a show out of it.

After his mandotory fight I'd really like to see Khan take on Timothy Bradley then step up to welterwight and take on the likes of Ortiz, Berto and Alvarez before taking on Mayweather.

Even then Mayweather will win.

Though, I do think Khan will be more of a challenge than Pacman should they fight.

 

[hans]

Amir has been talking it up. Mayweathers responded. Fight should happen for the love of money.

After watching the Khan
Judah bout Amir has clearly improved in some areas.
He looked carm and collected though he was fighting a boxer clearly past his best he made a show out of it.

After his mandotory fight I'd really like to see Khan take on Timothy Bradley then step up to welterwight and take on the likes of Ortiz, Berto and Alvarez before taking on Mayweather.

The Bradley fight is a definate no go. Bradley at this point is clearly ducking Khan, going as far as saying if he loses to Khan his career would effectively be over (radio interview). He is unwilling to fight Khan, but funnily enough as he is being stripped of his WBC title because of inactivity - said he will fight Erik Morales next week to keep the belt with him. . . . the guy is clearly a chicken shit.

At the moment it looks like Khan is going to fight again in december possibly against Morales or peterson, move up to welterweight in ~march/april to face Kell Brook. . .then hopefully Mayweather.

Though he has mentioned potentially fighting Cotto and Mosely when he moves up to welter . . . Some exciting fights in the future for Amir

 

[$hoguN]

Despite all Khan's improvements, If you watch him closely, he still has a real schoolboy habit of dropping his back hand when he throw a jab leaving his chin exposed. It is what got him knocked out against Prescott and against someone as good as Mayweather it would get exploited big time.

 

[haxman]

I'll wait and see how Mayweather gets on against Ortiz, he's heading for 35 now and been out of action for 16 months, before passing judgement on how he'd get on against Khan.

 

[opensaysme]

Despite a long lay off Mayweather should find it comfortable against Ortiz.

Look at what Maidina did to Ortiz face. Can you imagine what Mayweather will do with that accuracy of his.

It's on prime time. 24/7 showing on 5usa I think.

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Despite all Khan's improvements, If you watch him closely, he still has a real schoolboy habit of dropping his back hand when he throw a jab leaving his chin exposed. It is what got him knocked out against Prescott and against someone as good as Mayweather it would get exploited big time.

Mayweather would turn Khan into marmalade, and still have time to tell everyone how mean they are to him before the lights had even warmed up. Khan could be magnificent, don't get me wrong, but as you say, he has some sloppy habits and even he knows it.

 

[kishman]

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:bowdown:

 

[opensaysme]

Mayweather would turn Khan into marmalade, and still have time to tell everyone how mean they are to him before the lights had even warmed up. Khan could be magnificent, don't get me wrong, but as you say, he has some sloppy habits and even he knows it.

You know it, I've said it before and I'll say it again the only fighter I believe capable of beating Mayweather is Bernard Hopkins.

His style would cause Mayweather all kinds of problems.

I know it won't happen because of the huge gap in weight classes.

I can't see another fighter being able to beat him in all honestly.

Even Pac, I think should Pac fight Ortiz.
I think Ortiz would win. So long as it's not at catch weight.

I think Ortiz's style would see Pac get knocked out.

 

[opensaysme]

Saul Alvarez vs. Alfonso Gomez
Erik Morales vs. Pablo Cesar Cano
Josesito Lopez vs. Jessie Vargas

Undercard for Mayweather v Ortiz

 

[$hoguN]

Hopkins is not the right type of fighter to beat Mayweather imo... If you want to beat him you have to constantly apply pressure to him, walk him down and crucially make sure you hurt him when you actually get in close. If the De La Hoya v Mayweather fight had taken place in Oscar's prime he would have stood a great chance at beating him

 

[haxman]

I think Ortiz's style would see Pac get knocked out.

Ortiz is wide open - his defence isn't what it should be, and for that reason I'd go with Pacquiao to win. Ortiz comes forward, and the last fighter who did that against Manny - Hatton - well we saw what happened there. He just got picked off. Now I know Hatton was limited and Ortiz is a natural welter, but I see the same happening.

 

[$hoguN]

Ortiz is wide open - his defence isn't what it should be, and for that reason I'd go with Pacquiao to win.

Yep, let's be honest if you are going to be open defensively even only for brief periods, one of the last people you want to be fighting is Manny

 

[opensaysme]

Hopkins is not the right type of fighter to beat Mayweather imo... If you want to beat him you have to constantly apply pressure to him, walk him down and crucially make sure you hurt him when you actually get in close. If the De La Hoya v Mayweather fight had taken place in Oscar's prime he would have stood a great chance at beating him

I don't think that's a fair comment.

Mayweathers fought plenty of fighters in his prime.

Have a look at Bernard Hopkins fights, if you actually analise his style of boxing.

He wouldn't of hesitated to switch things around use the jab more when it's working for him. Listen to his trainer. etc

De La Hoya at his prime would of still come un-stuck.

You'd of thought given his experience at the time he should of used the jab more in that fight when it was working for him. But he kept on dropping it.

He'd more than likely be more naive and susceptable to being k.od had he fought in his prime due to naivety.

Also if anything that fight between De La Hoya should of favoured him.

Look up the stipulations in the contract for the fight on the internet.

Ortiz is wide open - his defence isn't what it should be, and for that reason I'd go with Pacquiao to win. Ortiz comes forward, and the last fighter who did that against Manny - Hatton - well we saw what happened there. He just got picked off. Now I know Hatton was limited and Ortiz is a natural welter, but I see the same happening.

Marquez should’ve had his hand raised in both meetings. Proper skanked out.

Despite fighting at a catchweight that suited Manny he still IMO beat him.

Ortiz is a similar fighter to Maquez, younger more powerful and suited better for the welterweight division.

Manny Pacquiao is basically the Joe Calzaghe of the welterweight division.

 

[haxman]

I fail to see the point you're trying to make. Calzaghe was a fine fighter - just ask the great American hope Jeff Lacy and genuine world class operator Mikkel Kessler.

I get the impression you just don't like Pacquiao. Maybe Marquez did beat him twice, but he sure as hell won't be beating him this 3rd time at the higher weight. Pacquiao is a much better fighter now than back then. I have no problem with Mayweather, his arrogance is irritating at times, but if he can back it up, which he has done so far, then fair enough.

 

[opensaysme]

I fail to see the point you're trying to make. Calzaghe was a fine fighter - just ask the great American hope Jeff Lacy and genuine world class operator Mikkel Kessler.

I get the impression you just don't like Pacquiao. Maybe Marquez did beat him twice, but he sure as hell won't be beating him this 3rd time at the higher weight. Pacquiao is a much better fighter now than back then. I have no problem with Mayweather, his arrogance is irritating at times, but if he can back it up, which he has done so far, then fair enough.

I'm comparing to there styles, they both slap/punch there opponents.

With little accuracy to go with those slaps.

Punches in bunches so to speak.

I think Manny Pacquiao get's too much media attention and is seen aa boxing hope. It's not his fault.

He's not the first person to have this happen to him and he certainly won't be the last.

I'm not going to discredit him for his accomplishments.

Well Done Manny Pacquiao. I really do mean that.

I just want to see more from him. I don't knock the man personally just the team behind the man.

1. Stop taking on other fighters at a catchweight that suits him.

2. Fighters should be a variety not a mix of fighters who have been already beaten by Mayweather or fighters coming off a loss.

3. Fight a boxer who is young and in his prime.

If he does these three things he would of gone up in my estimations.

Manny Pacquaio vs Floyd Mayweather figtht will probably be dubbed the saviour of boxing.

Which it won't because of the many fundamental flaws in the sport starting with the promoters.

 

[opensaysme]

Yep, let's be honest if you are going to be open defensively even only for brief periods, one of the last people you want to be fighting is Manny

Mannys defence is as open as Ortiz's.

He just throws more punches more than any other fighter.

Hence my Joe Calzaghe comparison.

If you actually analyse his fights a lot of them don't land.

I think Ortiz's power would hurt Manny like when Mosley landed his power punches on him.

Mosley just didn't have the stamina.

It was wrong the choice for Mosley.

He was ill advised.